Luminous_Reaver
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Only better I guess.
Skipped out on Peace Walker because of the whole not on PS3 thing. :C
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Only better I guess.
Skipped out on Peace Walker because of the whole not on PS3 thing. :C
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
How can people say this about the game that had Solidus Snake?
Best antagonist in the franchise
Graphics Horse
Member
That's not necessarily any more canon than the monster hunting.
R
Retro_
Unconfirmed Member
It might as well be at this point with how more and more advanced the pre MG1 metal gears are getting
Ein Bear
Member
Thanks for posting these, amazing stuff. I love the Peace Walker main theme, if Konami are hesitant to use to old one, then it'd be great if they made it the new main theme for the series.
Supreme Stephan
Member
True. It would be nice to hear the PW theme in GZ.
Graphics Horse
Member
I suppose so, that and the 1960's optic camo.
AuthenticM
Member
I am really, really hoping that Konami resolves the dispute between them and the russian music label who is holding the Metal Gear theme hostage. Just give them money and license the damn thing. While I love MGS4 with all my heart, it just feels wrong to have the end of Solid Snake's story be without its iconic music theme.
Do this right, Kojima.
By the way, has Kojima ever been asked about this since MGS4 shipped ? I mean, even after Peace Walker was released, hasn't anyone, either the press on someone on Twitter, just asked him why they haven't paid a licensing fee to the appropriate party ? It shouldn't be that costly; after all, it's an old composition and not a popular one.
Do this right, Kojima.
By the way, has Kojima ever been asked about this since MGS4 shipped ? I mean, even after Peace Walker was released, hasn't anyone, either the press on someone on Twitter, just asked him why they haven't paid a licensing fee to the appropriate party ? It shouldn't be that costly; after all, it's an old composition and not a popular one.
SniperHunter
Banned
I can't stop playing MGS3 HD, the game is sooo good!! And it has aged well. MGS4 on the other hand, I beat chapter 1 and that was it (after the trophy patch hit) :/
New to me, and very awesome. Peace Walker theme is gold.
It seems to be more of case of him not wanting in there.
If Peace Walker is any indication then I don't think we have to worry about a new theme for the series.
As for MGS4, the Old Snake theme was brilliant and perfect to send Snake off.
frAntic_Frog
Member
Calling to the night (MGS PO) >>>>> Best is yet to come (MGS)
just beat MGS PO the other day....Calling to the Night ending song seriously gave me chills...it was EPIC
Best is Yet to Come sounds like it was ripped from Pure Moods/Celtic Moods new age music CD (no offense to fans of that kind of music, but it doesnt really fit in with the atmosphere of Metal Gear)
Ether_Snake
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You know, MG PO is strangely pretty much a copy-paste story of MGS1.
It's almost 100% identical when you think about it. Really weird.
Actually wtf wait a minute.
MGS3=MG1/MG2: Snake has to infiltrate a large complex and end up fighting his "mentor"
MG PO=MGS1: Snake infiltrates a base to stop some guy leading a large team of soldier who wants to create a new place for soldiers and threatens to use Metal Gear to launch a nuke and such. Both "bad guys" claims to be the real successors to the "mentor"
MG PW=MGS2: Snake is now doing his own thing, with his own "organization".
It actually makes sense. MGS:GZ=MGS4? But I guess it can't, since it would imply something like Big Boss defeating something like The Patriots and what not. Maybe it will be like MGS4, except Big Boss fails where Solid Snake succeeds.
It's almost 100% identical when you think about it. Really weird.
Actually wtf wait a minute.
MGS3=MG1/MG2: Snake has to infiltrate a large complex and end up fighting his "mentor"
MG PO=MGS1: Snake infiltrates a base to stop some guy leading a large team of soldier who wants to create a new place for soldiers and threatens to use Metal Gear to launch a nuke and such. Both "bad guys" claims to be the real successors to the "mentor"
MG PW=MGS2: Snake is now doing his own thing, with his own "organization".
It actually makes sense. MGS:GZ=MGS4? But I guess it can't, since it would imply something like Big Boss defeating something like The Patriots and what not. Maybe it will be like MGS4, except Big Boss fails where Solid Snake succeeds.
Watched Dredd on friday. Really think Karl Urban would be the man to play Snake now.
God. These are fantastic. Hadn't heard them before.
God. These are fantastic. Hadn't heard them before.
I will buy it! MSG 3 atmosphere was fantastic and the sorrow also! Can't wait to play it in hd on ps3 these days, ps2 almost suffered with 3 grapichs
Just finished it the other day. sogoood.gif
Bluepoint did well on their re-up.
BTW in MGS4 - does it affect anything in helping the rebels (or can you even help the PMC)?
You'll get safe passage through the rebel's tunnel, if you start out helping them.
frAntic_Frog
Member
i've just started to play Peace Walker HD on ps3......damn fine MGS game...hard to imagine it was a handheld game originally, but the voice acting, music, comic art presentation are all top notch (love ashley wood)
however i still cant get over the fact that they took out body dragging and side stepping when pressed against wall....must be due to limited PSP controls
too bad i been kinda spoiled by the plot spoilers posted in this thread about Galbaz.....oh well im sure i will still enjoy PW
however i still cant get over the fact that they took out body dragging and side stepping when pressed against wall....must be due to limited PSP controls
too bad i been kinda spoiled by the plot spoilers posted in this thread about Galbaz.....oh well im sure i will still enjoy PW
Fucking amazing, I need this!
Graphics Horse
Member
PO's problem, or one of them, is you have to double up 2 movement controls onto one button! Choosing to combine stalking and aiming worked ok.. except aiming makes you more visible...
Neither games are ideal, I think they just wanted to speed the game up in PW but PO was definitely overcomplicated for the controls they went for. MGS1-MGS2 controls would have worked fine.
SJRB
Gold Member
Helping out rebels will make a playthrough drastically easier - they will consider you a friend and you can freely run past them. You can also trade items with them, but they never have anything of true value.
You know they are on your side once they pop the heart symbol when they spot you, instead of the traditional '!'. They will also comment on you if you walk by.
This goes for both Act I and Act II. Especially Act II has certain areas where having the rebels on your side will greatly benefit your infiltration.
Some people say no, but it certainly does on mine.
Ein Bear
Member
How does it play? Does the second stick help with the controls? I struggled to get my head around them on the PSP.
Really new, yep. METAL GEAR 25th ANNIVERSARY METAL GEAR MUSIC COLLECTION only came out a couple of weeks ago (after been delayed once first http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=39681560&postcount=12).
I remember that Mr. Kojima seemed pretty excited to see this medleys released, and made successive 'tweets' talking about how much he liked this new renditions:
http://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/227659208311570432Twitter / HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN: Checking master of METAL GEAR ... said:
http://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/233888497444978688Twitter / HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN: Listening to MG 25th anniversary ... said:
http://twitter.com/HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN/status/237810963699601409Twitter / HIDEO_KOJIMA_EN: Had listened to "METAL GEAR ... said:
Hugely better yeah. That game has the dense level design of MGS2 for the most part, but with practically no feedback to the user, and having to stop and mess with the camera was always really terrible, but it's very viable now. I would still say aiming is crap, but no stealth is much better, that's inherently less of an issue. I would certainly recommend giving it another try.
SniperHunter
Banned
good article.
Ein Bear
Member
Cool, thanks! Think I'll have another crack at it then once I've wrapped up Peace Walker. It's great that these PSP entries are so much more playable now, I never gave either much of a chance when they first came out.
(Though I never understood why they didn't just make the PSP games top-down, MGS1/2 style affairs.)
AuthenticM
Member
They are presuming the identity of the girl the charred guy is talking about. It could very well not be Paz, but someone else such as Amanda.
When I get Alan Wake on PS3
Get it on PC
immortal-joe
Member
Very minor point, but the traditional way to open a metal gear game is to show Snake (Solid, Boss, or Raiden) from a the front as he rises up, the game pausing to take in the grand appearance of the "hero", usually with the title appearing overhead.
This one opted for a different money-shot. It paused and showed the title screen with Snake's back to the camera, and the open world in the background. Maybe they did this to emphasize the open-design and scale of this game.
Just found that interesting.
This one opted for a different money-shot. It paused and showed the title screen with Snake's back to the camera, and the open world in the background. Maybe they did this to emphasize the open-design and scale of this game.
Just found that interesting.
Criminal Upper
Banned
Um, people are telling others to burn for not liking MGS2?
Say what you want about it (positive or negative) but no one should be surprised at this, MGS2 is one of the least liked sequels ever.
If he wrote that post about MGS3 however, by all means he should burn.
Say what you want about it (positive or negative) but no one should be surprised at this, MGS2 is one of the least liked sequels ever.
If he wrote that post about MGS3 however, by all means he should burn.
AuthenticM
Member
And you are taking this from where ?
Yeah, I felt the same. People use the term 'unplayable' very loosely, especially on GAF, but to me, PO and PW were more or less unplayable. The controls were such a limitation to my ability to play, that it completely spoiled the games. I know some people played and loved them both, but I thought they were garbage. And indeed, the fact that they went for a 3D camera design on the PSP was illogical to me, and a frustration, given how perfect Ghost Babel was.
Peace Walker doesn't matter now, because it's been ported to the consoles, and controls, runs, and looks massively better than it would on Vita, but MGS
O will almost certainly never be given that treatment, and at least the Vita now puts it firmly in the realm of enjoyable to play for me.The Vita backwards compatibility is really very impressive, per pixel mapping and filtering, so the games all look better, they generally run better, and they all control better. Stunning.
SJRB
Gold Member
The burned man says "she didn't suffer", implying he killed her.
Snake goes in to rescue Chico and Paz. Not much point in saving Paz when she's dead, right? My theory is that it is indeed Amanda who got tortured.
Besides, do Chico and Paz have any connection? I'm a little rusty on Peace Walker, but I don't remember the two even remotely connected to one another other than residing in Outer Heaven.
MGS2 isn't bad... it's really a good game the only bad thing is Raiden, so annoying...
RyanardoDaVinci
Member
I don't think a tough soldier chick like Amanda would talk.
Chico has a huge crush on Paz, so it could very well be her they killed. Miller's last info was that Paz was at the base with Chico, they could have killed her anytime since then.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
All I remember from MGS2 is how fucking obnoxiously long and boring every codec conversation was. And the game was full of them, too.
SJRB
Gold Member
That makes sense too, I suppose.
Damnit, we need more information. When is Kojima's next gig, is it TGS?
Live Free or Die
Banned
If anyone is interested in watching, someone is live streaming MGS2. Metal Gear Solid 1 and 2 Mini Marathon // Extreme/Euro Extreme (No Kills in 2) // Story Run
I totally missed those long codec conversations in MGS4
Chip N Chance
Member
How cool would it be if Ground Zeroes pulled your Peace Walker save for some Motherbase data and progression. Now that Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes are PS360 games, it seems very possible.