DragonSworne
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Not really, I buy all consoles eventually. MS and Nintendo's at launch, Sony's when Metal Gear comes out.
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Famitsu: Wii U region-lock confirmed
- Thread starter Cheesemeister
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Not really, I buy all consoles eventually. MS and Nintendo's at launch, Sony's when Metal Gear comes out.
H_Prestige
Banned
I never made any absolute statement like "ps3 can play any disc from anywhere". I said Sony's last three systems have gotten me used to region free gaming.
And yes, 100% psp games, 100% vita games, and 99.9% region free ps3 games gets people used to that.
Steve Youngblood
Member
For what it's worth (admittedly nothing), I must say that I personally am somewhat confused at what you're trying to accomplish here. I must be missing something, because this seems like an incredibly pointless distinction based on semantics that you are insisting is important.
If I wrote a PS Suite Vita game that read the system's region and executed on all regions but put up an error message when run on a US Vita, would you consider the Vita to have become region locked? Just want to make sure I have this straight! It's pretty clear that when people say a system is "region free", they're saying that the operating system doesn't have any built-in functionality to prevent software flagged for one region from running on another. Which is true in the PS3's case.
Also, the DS is not region free by your standards:
wikipedia said:
Yeah, I agree. but wouldn't most people/consumers prefer region-free even if they don't care about importing.
Nah, my Titanic French LE is region free as well (20th Fox release).
But they love to pull: Only English language on the UK release, however some EU countries share the same releases, but the cover doesn't list it. For example: My French Titanic LE has English, French + German audio on it, but the cover lists English + French only. Even the information given to amazon.fr states English+French only. And they got a reason to do that. amazon.de wants 60EUR for the LE, amazon.fr only 40EUR (it's even cheaper than getting the UK LE, which was 40pounds).
At least the audio track region locking is the best way to do it and there is no workaround for anyone. And Sony loves to pull this too. Uncharted 2+3 for example only feature English language on the UK release. That's what I love about Nintendo. They don't pull this shit. I buy a game from UK, I get the real EU release, which contains all the 5 typical languages (English, French, Italian, German + Spanish).
(exception Layton games on DS after the first one, but this has a reason - the first layton has FIGS text support, the games after that had full voice support for each language - including them all on one cart would have been way more expensive).
Even buying Legend of Zelda: Link to the past, will give Europeans all the different languages in one bundle. Just set the Wii to English language will get you the English LttP. Switch it to German will give you German LttP. Switch it to French...
MidnightScott
Banned
And Nintendo will kill it again...
Pancakes R Us
Member
This. Nintendo screwed the fans over with region locking on handhelds. It goes against the nature of a handheld based on the previous reasoning for lack of region locking on portables. I'm based in the UK but own a US 3DS. Have missed so many bargain sales on 3DS games because of this. Ugh. As much as I love Nintendo, if this all comes back to bite the company on its arse some day, a part of me will think that it deserves it.
/off soap box
MasterSheen
Member
surprise
Femmeworth
Banned
Expected but still shitty.
Bu, But that's the very reason publishers hate that.
See, you ruined it for us. I only se it to play Japanese stuff, which is actually more expensive, they even make more money out of that, screw YOU! ;P
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
Meh
Would have been nice if it wasn't, but nothing to throw a fit over.
Would have been nice if it wasn't, but nothing to throw a fit over.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Just correcting factually wrong statements. I would do it regardless of topic.
Does the console maker allow games to be region locked? Is there a game released that is locked to a region? If so, then yes... the system is not region free. If Sony's system was truly region free then games would fail cert that had this lock in place.
And the DS games you are speaking of do not work do to tech limitation. The publisher is not going out of their way to lock the game on the system.
Steve Youngblood
Member
But to what end? When someone says that the PS3 is region-free, you really think that it's important to distinguish that -- in the six plus years it's been on the market -- this isn't technically true because there is one title that defies this statement's validity?
Oh
OH
It's my party and I'll
I'm not even going to stop at tantrums, I'm throwing people over here!
What mod was this? I had a Japanese GameCube but got the little switch added to the back which meant you could also play american games. Loved the cases for the Japanese games. Great artwork and small per the size of the discs. Dont know why the western games came in DVD size cases.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
Why would anyone not correct any incorrect post in any thread? I'm not saying his opinion is wrong, I'm saying his facts are wrong.
brochiller
Member
Honest question here, why does Nintendo choose to do this? I don't see what they gain by not allowing imports of other region's games.
H_Prestige
Banned
Because it doesn't change any of the points brought up in this thread...
FrozenCell
Member
hackers will fix this bug
at the cost of access to all online functionality, most likely
Thing is, boycotts are essentially worthless if you don't follow it up with a campaign to get millions involved or at the very least communicate directly to the person you're boycotting.
Region locking is absolutely stupid. I bought a used Japanese 3DS to play a couple games I know will never be released here and because of that it'll be a while before I can get a US 3DS. One of the reasons I like the PSP and plan to buy a Vita is because they're region free. I had no plans to buy a Wii U anyway but it still sucks.
Pretty much the same mod im talking about, the switch. You has to solder points on the cube board to a dpdt switch and allow you to change. But like the vita, you couldn't have American and Japanese data on te same card, it always wanted to format the card.
I hate region-locking but I am in a different position than most. I live in Japan and hate playing US games with Japanese voice-overs (if the game only has subtitles and Japanese UI it is tolerable, but all English would be prefered). I can sometimes get the Asia version of the game for the Xbox, but that usually means venturing to Akihabara, which can be pretty disturbing. For the PS3, I can usually get the game shipped internationally on Amazon.
I wasn't expecting the Wii-U to be region free. I don't mind since I pretty much use Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games only. I use the PS3 for multi-platform games, which can be pretty bad because the Xbox is usually the better option.
I wasn't expecting the Wii-U to be region free. I don't mind since I pretty much use Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games only. I use the PS3 for multi-platform games, which can be pretty bad because the Xbox is usually the better option.
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
Yeah if this thing is hack-proof in any significant way, I'll be shocked. It's Nintendo.
Maybe. We'll have to know the nature of Nintendo's online system and ability/willingness to correct hacks. Again I say.. It's Nintendo.
test_account
XP-39C²
Going by DSi (DSi games in specific that is) and 3DS, Nintendo have done a good job so far securing their systems against hacks. If they do a good job on sandboxing the Wii backward compability mode in WiiU, i wouldnt be surprised if it takes years before the WiiU gets hacked.
OldJadedGamer
Banned
This is GAF, if you post something factually incorrect someone will correct it.
MidnightScott
Banned
I think with it being a new console more games will probably be localized to reduce the software droughts that plagued the past systems for months at a time.
H_Prestige
Banned
Not going to happen. System wide region locking is a Nintendo exclusive feature.
Sony did it with the PS1 and PS2 and Microsoft did it with the Xbox (and maybe the Xbox 360?).
H_Prestige
Banned
And Nintendo didn't with the Wii and 3DS. They are the ones designing the Wii U, not Sony or MS.
chertipros
Member
Any chances of them removing this in an OS update? Is that even possible? This really blows. I know I should have kept my expectations in check but just thinking about all the games we might miss out on here in NA really rustles my jimmies. I'm still pissed we didn't get all those Cing games Like Another Code R and The last window
IrishNinja
Member
no one actually thinks the PS4 will be more expensive than the 3. no one.
this, every one of you "HACKERS WILL FIX THIS" are missing this part - they're getting caught up, firmware/etc wise, so youre gonna have to disable some features to make this work, most likely...barring a huge exploit. i wouldn't count on it, though.
i wish Aeana and some of the more intelligent people in this thread had a better answer for my prior question on how to let nintendo/others know this is a priority for some, other than generic "BOYCOTT" answers. there's gotta be a venue to express interest in this feature, but im not seeing it. i mean, ill make sure to mention it in the registration survey @ club nintendo but that's not exactly ideal.
this, every one of you "HACKERS WILL FIX THIS" are missing this part - they're getting caught up, firmware/etc wise, so youre gonna have to disable some features to make this work, most likely...barring a huge exploit. i wouldn't count on it, though.
i wish Aeana and some of the more intelligent people in this thread had a better answer for my prior question on how to let nintendo/others know this is a priority for some, other than generic "BOYCOTT" answers. there's gotta be a venue to express interest in this feature, but im not seeing it. i mean, ill make sure to mention it in the registration survey @ club nintendo but that's not exactly ideal.
Home consoles? never
OldJadedGamer
Banned
I could be wrong but the last home system to be 100% region free was the 3DO. There was a hardware bug that allowed launch PS1's to play Japanese games but it wasn't on purpose and they fixed it with the next revision.
They can if they want, will they? Probably not, can they? Yep.
I'm not for region locking by any means. I wasn't aware that there was a shift in how these companies felt towards importing. I guess Lik-Sang was a long time ago.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
IrishNinja
Member
stumps, since you're here:
i think we can argue the merits of efforts like Operation Rainfall (or even less successful ones like Starman.net) for awareness, to what extent do you think that's viable here? because in nintendo's case, i think the people making the decisions in japan possibly have no real idea this is something consumers even value, and i'm wondering if there's any hypothetical effort that could alter that.
*edit crap you were here exactly an hour ago, haha
i think we can argue the merits of efforts like Operation Rainfall (or even less successful ones like Starman.net) for awareness, to what extent do you think that's viable here? because in nintendo's case, i think the people making the decisions in japan possibly have no real idea this is something consumers even value, and i'm wondering if there's any hypothetical effort that could alter that.
*edit crap you were here exactly an hour ago, haha
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thepotatoman
Unconfirmed Member
If they didn't think people cared about importing, they wouldn't have even bothered to region lock in the first place.
IrishNinja
Member
fair point, but...what if the pressure from pubs at this point is so minimal that the perception of fixing one of their base's complaints (as theyve clearly been working on with online, increased 3rd party support etc) was shown to be worthwhile? in a cost/benefit analysis sort've way.
Jawmuncher
Member
Sucks.
Since this'll mean Wii Backwards Compatibility is region locked to.
Why Nintendo are you doing this? You hurt no one but your most hardcore fanbase.
Didn't they learn anything from Xenoblade? Game had a huge base that imported it and ended up having to use softmodded wiis to play it.
Since this'll mean Wii Backwards Compatibility is region locked to.
Why Nintendo are you doing this? You hurt no one but your most hardcore fanbase.
Didn't they learn anything from Xenoblade? Game had a huge base that imported it and ended up having to use softmodded wiis to play it.