I've been thinking this since day one. I would like to see someone develop a "remote control" app, that turns the game pad into a Clone of a Logitech Harmony.
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Wii U Thread - Now in HD!
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I've been thinking this since day one. I would like to see someone develop a "remote control" app, that turns the game pad into a Clone of a Logitech Harmony.
I don't even know what to say to that. It has shades of Capcom's announcing RE4 for the PS2 before the GC version even launched. Why do publishers sabotage their own products like that?
It's mind-boggling.
As done with Dead Space (Extraction), they created the "perfect excuse" to justify their future non-support to the Wii U in front of their investors, once ME3 Wii U will sell just 10 copies.
GameplayWhore
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Really the implementation and compability across devices is what matters now. I don't have TV service at my home -- the few shows I watch can often be watched via friends or the Internet. But if I could get TV remote plus a replacement for my WD Live TV (which plays stuff shared via samba from my upstairs PC) plus cheap pay-per-view or pay-per-download online television capability, and if everything is pretty painless to use, then I might bite earlier than expected.
It's still a whopping amount to spend on a console, though.
I still refuse to believe that a billion dollar company can be run in a way that would try and handicap a new platform that can earn them a ton of money, but this decision just makes no sense.
My whole body hopes that it gets a Wii U port. No part of me cares how it will compare to the 360 version.
BTW, I have a signed copy of NMH, does your copy of K7 have his name in (illegible) Latin letters or Kanji?
I was actually willing to break my "no more EA purchases" vow with Mass Effect 3 but it looks like that's back on. *Shakes head*. How can they not see how stupid this Mass Effect trilogy announcement would be. Sales for ME3 were going to be iffy anyway but now they've made sure it won't sell. They couldn't have kept their mouth shut until after the ME3:SE came out!? This is just from a business point of view. There is also the damage this does to any goodwill Wii U buyers would have toward EA on the system.
Agent Unknown
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Great, so because of ME Trilogy I now basically have zero incentive to buy ME 3 on Wii U other than Gamepad play? Brilliant, EA.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
Illegible Latin, with a 51 scrawled over the white "7" on the box logo. He was quite happy that myself and my colleague (who also got her copy signed) owned the GCN version, not the PS2 port.
Smiles and Cries
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late port it is then, Nintendo needs to do some damage control anyway they might as well go shopping for something for next year
Shin Johnpv
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I do think they should have at least put ME2 and 3 as a $60 package, instead of just ME3 for $60.
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Ohh jeebus I just read about the Mass Effect Trilogy pack that was just announced for 60 bucks for every other platform. They want ME3 on Wii-U not to sell. Who the fuck is going to spend 60 bucks for one game in the trilogy when you can get all 3 on every other platform for the same price.
That shit is retarded levels of stupid. I know people love to say shit like "they're professionals they know what they're doing." but I look at something like this and can't help but go no, no they most definitely do not.
Spieler Eins
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We haven't seen anything of it yet, but since it could be a game closer to Killer7 than his previous ones, I'd also take it even over No More Heroes 3. The series is cool, but K7 simply is one of the best games of last gen.
SquiddyCracker
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Wait, what?
EA is releasing the Mass Effect Trilogy around the same time that they're releasing Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U?
I didn't intend to buy ME3 before with my Wii U, and I definitely won't be doing that now lol.
EA is releasing the Mass Effect Trilogy around the same time that they're releasing Mass Effect 3 on the Wii U?
I didn't intend to buy ME3 before with my Wii U, and I definitely won't be doing that now lol.
tkscz
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I hate to agree with this, but it's true. When DSE was first announced they made it sound like it was going to be a Third-person shooter like Dead Space was, then we find out it's an on-rails shooter and EA expected everyone to buy it. When no one did (which isn't a surprise at all) they blamed the Wii instead of their lack luster advertisement, choice of genre and prediction of audience. We just got two rail-shooters about a few months before, don't bog us down with another one.
Smiles and Cries
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that GamePad play has me spoiled and I have not even touched it yet so any ports of ME1/ME2 would have to add the same streaming play option just to get me back on the wagon.
As it stands now I don't want to play this game on Wii U. I may end up trying it on PC in a year or so if ever.
Like the hat?
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Maybe they want to get whatever $60 sales for me3 they can, and then six months or a year from now release a wii u trilogy collection, too? Probably not, but who knows.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
I don't subscribe to silly anti-Nintendo conspiracies, but I do subscribe to dumb fucking business decisions by publishers. There's a whole cocktail of variables to consider, including when ME3 Wii U began production and it's development schedule (note: from what I know Nintendo kept a lot of publishers in the dark as to when the Wii U was launching, so their schedule planning had to factor that in), who exactly is handling the trilogy port as it includes ME1 on PS3, and EA's sales forecast across all existing and soon-to-exist platforms.
I don't think the absence of a the trilogy is some sinister, tactical choice to whine about bombing sales as an excuse not to port anything ever. These a huge publishers. They don't give a shit what people think, and if they don't want to port anything or work on a platform they simply outright wont. Dead Space: Extraction is a good example of this. EA didn't need an excuse to not sell shit on the Wii. They didn't believe shit would sell full stop, and tried to ride of the brief-but-dead fad of rail shooters on the Wii. It failed, so they went "oh okay whatever" and went to make money elsewhere.
I see this mostly as nothing but stupidity. A stupid publisher who doesn't really feel confident/care about the Wii U, porting their most recent major and thus most publicised Mass Effect game to the system, and then going "hmm we need an easy money make for the holiday system. hey! trilogy!", and simply not caring about what's going on in Nintendo land.
The ME3 port seems pretty solid in all honest. Seems to run well, and has good touch screen implementation. The port team is doing a really solid job. It's just a shame they are being financed by an insane publisher.
chertipros
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Thanks for those thoughts- makes sense. Yeah like I said a bit earlier, I just refuse to believe huge companies are really that petty. Just incompetent. Of course, like you kind of hinted at Nintendo possibly did itself no favors if they were a bit too secret, etc.
Smiles and Cries
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I'm holding Nintendo partly responsible for this. I'm waiting to see if they say something if the media are willing to ask them the hard questions on this.
ShockingAlberto
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I dunno.
I think, at very least, this is going to be point one in the "Third parties never really tried" argument for the Wii U.
I think, at very least, this is going to be point one in the "Third parties never really tried" argument for the Wii U.
Japan shall save us
I have already bought dlc twice for mass effect 1 and 2 (originally owned on 360, sold the 360 and games and bought PC versions of all Mass Effects) this doesn't concern me. But, I would pay for mass effect trilogy a third time if the gamepad implementation was awesome (which the ME3 port does) but oh wait.....the trilogy isn't coming to Wii U, instead EA wants us to pay $60 for ME3 only.....fucken EA, I can't even describe or understand their mode of thinking.....
IlSignorCornetto
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Smiles and Cries
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When is the launch window over again? End of March?
Would that be enough time to fix some of this mess? If EA really cared they should give whatever team that is working on this Wii U game to add the other 2 to a package. Or even sell all 3 separately for $60 as someone who have not played it I would not care if there is a greater value elsewhere as long as they gave all of them the same treatment as this Mass Effect 3 Special Edition. Otherwise they are just sending the game out to die. That pisses me off because they plan to continue with on ME4.
I really hope we are overreacting and EA is not this stupid or this careless.
Would that be enough time to fix some of this mess? If EA really cared they should give whatever team that is working on this Wii U game to add the other 2 to a package. Or even sell all 3 separately for $60 as someone who have not played it I would not care if there is a greater value elsewhere as long as they gave all of them the same treatment as this Mass Effect 3 Special Edition. Otherwise they are just sending the game out to die. That pisses me off because they plan to continue with on ME4.
I really hope we are overreacting and EA is not this stupid or this careless.
Nostremitus
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You know, when I first read this I thought...
"great, now I have to choose between getting the better (I like hot mapped abilities) version of 3 or getting to play 1... (wii/ps3 this gen)"
Then I realized that I already know the major plot points in 1, and I've already played 2... so yeah, I think I'll keep my pre order. If I get the feeling that I really need to play 1, I'll probably get it on PC considering how glitchy me2 on ps3 was. I doubt the port of 1 will be much better.
Smiles and Cries
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Mass Effect 3 on WiiU was going to sell like shit anyway. Nobody unfamiliar with the franchise would have bought it and most people who already played it don't want to do so again.
The EA games people will be interested in buying are the sports titles. That's the test that really matters. I don't want the WiiU FIFA to end up like the Vita versions.
The EA games people will be interested in buying are the sports titles. That's the test that really matters. I don't want the WiiU FIFA to end up like the Vita versions.
JordanN
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I think the publishers mistreating Wii U is temporary. It's a new console so it's easy for them to neglect it when it lacks reputation.
As long as Wii U continues the lead in sales next gen, publishers should be back in full force with plenty of support.
And before you mention Wii, I believe the situation is completely different. Core gamers will make up the charge this time in addition to having none of the anti-dev barriers the Wii presented.
Smiles and Cries
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I was ready to jump into ME3 never played it never owned the other consoles, I felt like well at least they are trying and I can understand ME3 is the latest and they can't get ME1 from MS so its cool I'll buy it and try it. Today I felt like I got a FUCK YOU.
So this it wasn't going to sell anyway was news to me until now thank you very much.
It is kind of funny reading posts of people defending EA in the ME3 thread. I'm sure if there was a game from a series they enjoyed that was releasing only on a Nintendo console they would still be backing up the company's decision. Oh wait...
Barring insane hardware and 3rd party software sales at launch, I do not see stellar Western support outside of maybe Ubisoft.
I'm hopeful Japan will be a different story, but in the West I have seen zero positive signs besides Ubisoft's launch lineup.
Does anyone think there could be anything in this? http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/631516-/63629803
It mentions ME Trilogy...
It mentions ME Trilogy...
smh.
EA consistently tries to outdo themselves in their patheticness on Nintendo consoles.
And, somehow, they keep succeeding.
:lol
Good way to tell if someone is being honest with their critique of third-party sales on Wii U, at least. If they say "Well look how ME3 did! Of course third-parties wouldn't continue on Wii U after sales like that!", then we know they're not interested in legitimate discussion.
EA consistently tries to outdo themselves in their patheticness on Nintendo consoles.
And, somehow, they keep succeeding.
:lol
Good way to tell if someone is being honest with their critique of third-party sales on Wii U, at least. If they say "Well look how ME3 did! Of course third-parties wouldn't continue on Wii U after sales like that!", then we know they're not interested in legitimate discussion.
Is that a random thought or did we get some Killer is Dead news that I missed?
lwilliams3
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I agree with EatChildren. This situation is not as much as "EA is screwing Nintendo", but more of EA making a very stupid decision. EA may probably try to justify it by saying that the Wii U is a next-gen console and that the game had some enchantments over the original. EA could have put ME1 and ME2 in a double-pack, and have that ported to the Wii U too, but they instead included ME3 even though its less than a year old. That is insulting to the game developers, the buyers, and the ME franchise.
Spieler Eins
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Unprecedented partnership! Just read about the trilogy, loltastic EA. Thankfully I really do not give a shit about this companies games. Last game I bought from them was like Timesplitters 3 - in 2005?
It was clear that Western 3rds wouldn't even try, but I'm more worried about Japanese support since the last Direct. Though I should be fine if it's going to be a machine for P* games (and Monster Hunter ports, I don't need them on a handheld...)
Something happen between Nintendo and EA that is a fact, Peter Moore went to Japan and something bad happen thats all we know, what he posted could be true.
Activion has more and better WiiU support then EA
Some quotes in that post
"SSJ4CHRIS posted...
Bioware would never have a Mass Effect Trilogy made for the Wii U. Reason: Microsoft owns the rights to the first Mass Effect game. If they couldn't bring ME1 to Playstation 3 by now with both 2 and 3 released on it, they for sure can't get ME1 on the Wii U."
"Board_hunter567
Mass Effect Trilogy
Couldn't take it seriously after that."
Well well look who was wrong, yea its not announced for WiiU but trilogy is coming for PS3
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
The ME3 thing.... SMH...
I always thought part 3 of a trilogy was a weird choice for a Wii U title.
This is almost exactly like MGS 3D being released on the 3DS at the same time as the Metal Gear Solid Trilogy was available on other formats - for the same price.
I always thought part 3 of a trilogy was a weird choice for a Wii U title.
This is almost exactly like MGS 3D being released on the 3DS at the same time as the Metal Gear Solid Trilogy was available on other formats - for the same price.
Cerebral Assassin
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True, but why make sure that there is no point to even think about the Wii U version(outside of the off-TV mode), this is Sega levels of stupidity.
What's wrong with the Vita version? It looked like the first interesting Fifa in years.
EA couldn't possibly be that petty. I'd agree with EatChildren, they're not specifically trying to screw over Nintendo, they're just stupid.
IHaveCandy
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Has Nintendo stated that you can install games onto an external HDD? If this is USB 2.0, isn't that going to have serious loading problems? It wasn't an issue with SD cards on the Wii or DS since the games are small. But if you download a 5 GB game for the Wii, aren't the loading times going to be very poor going through a USB cable? I'm not even sure if they are only going to allow media via USB.
Dead Space: Extraction is a wonderful example. Thanks for bringing it up. Let's review Dead Space: Extraction's timeline.
* EA stock was falling. Wii was shooting the lights out. Investors were not too happy.
* EA announces they "bet on the wrong horse." Would be "shifting focus to Wii." As evidence of this, they announce that Dead Space is coming to Wii.
There was much excitement surrounding this RE4-like game coming to Wii. Until ...
* EA announces that Dead Space is an on-rails shooter prequel, and the real Dead Space isn't coming to Wii, at all.
They made Dead Space: Extraction in order to say to investors, "Hey, we tried. Wii just doesn't work for our types of games." If their stock was good, then, yeah, they probably wouldn't have even bothered with that. They made Dead Space: Extraction in order to keep the hounds (investors) at bay by giving them a bone (empty promise of Wii support).
To quote from a thread linked through my tag,
EA Shift Focus to Wii
Shifting to Wii , RIP February 2009 - March 2009
he was a good and friendly shift
EA is not interested in giving "real" support to Wii U, currently. I'd imagine this is because they have horrible expectations for Wii U's ability to sell core games. If the real sales say otherwise, they may change their tune, but at this point, you shouldn't really trust anything coming from EA when it comes to Wii U.
Games bought digitally can be stored on an external HDD. Blu-Ray read speed on the drive is 25 MB/s, so as long the HDD gives the same throughput, there won't be any extra delay compared to playing the game off the disk.
usb 2.0 is faster than reading discs.
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