Neuromancer
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Depends on the site but yeah an Edge 6/10 actually means slightly better than average; they don't operate on the 7-9 scale.
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Resident Evil 6 - Review Thread | Activist Reviews and the Hate Patrol Destroy Truth
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Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Prediction:
RE6 will have a small but very vocal following a year from now. I get a very Disaster: Day of Crisis-vibe from the game.
RE6 will have a small but very vocal following a year from now. I get a very Disaster: Day of Crisis-vibe from the game.
Mr Kollar might appear in here at some point to discuss his 4/10. In the meantime you could play a fantastic, Polygon-approved game like Transformers instead.
Well maybe he shouldn't have given his word if it wasn't his decision to make.
I'm happy shitty games get shitty scores. Every other bad AAA shooter gets 8s and 9s so this is very refreshing and very nice to see
Truth bomb.
WickedCobra03
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I have not played this game, and only watched Giantbomb play through the demo, so I am no expert on RE6, but why are the reviewers now deciding to use the full 10 point scale on this game? It might be a terrible game, I don't know, but you got to hand it to IGN, they stay consistent using the 7 to 10 scale.
SousedLouse
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It's the whole punishment angle. Capcom has done some pretty stupid stuff this gen, but there's this whole narrative surrounding them that somehow, someway, karma will kick in and strike them down for their offenses towards their fans. Different people have different reasons for wanting this, but the end result is that there's a bunch of different groups that want Capcom to at least lose a decent amount of money on Resident Evil 6, or go bankrupt outright, because of what they've done in the last few years and for what the game represents to them: a completer bastardization of the series aimed at enticing Western audiences. Plus, AAA games have been getting a free ride from the gaming press this gen, so seeing a high-profile release like RE6 get low scores right off the bat is deeply satisfying to people who are sick of seeing paid reviews. And on top of all that, the game is really unpolished, and that's just bad no matter how you try to spin it.
I understand that good games are sometimes left to die (with gamers cackling over the corpse, no less) and bad games can sell tons of copies, so I don't really buy into the righteousness angle, but it's interesting to see how hard reviewers are going in on a 'safe' target.
Same here. I've loved some really polarizing games.
fluffydelusions
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Machinima has a review up it seems... 7.5/10
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Qm-LveUig
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M2Qm-LveUig
I would say in the crowded entertainment industry, being average is a failing grade, yes. Still doesn't mean it's "terrible", just average.
You are right. Why REmake & RE0 is not coming out yet on ps360? I think would sell really well.
thehillissilent
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I honestly think a 7/10 would be fair review of the game. This game is loaded with content and you have to appreciate Capcom's ambition. It's definately not perfect, but at least it tries to succeed.
Also, here is a in progress walkthrough: http://www.gameanyone.com/game/X360/17621.html
The player is pretty good. I still feel that Capcom should have focused only on Leon and Ada's campaigns since they seem to be the best overall.
Also, here is a in progress walkthrough: http://www.gameanyone.com/game/X360/17621.html
The player is pretty good. I still feel that Capcom should have focused only on Leon and Ada's campaigns since they seem to be the best overall.
Hahahaha, so fucking predictable. I NEVER trust their reviews.
SolidSnakex
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I'd actually like this to consistently happen. Not the universal panning, but where there's an obvious spread in reviews. If you look at movie reviews, even movies what win the majority of the Best Pictures Awards, you'll see a nice spread in reviews. A good example of that would be The King's Speech from last year. It has a Metacritic of 88 with several 6's and 7's. Gaming's big winner from last year was Skyrim with a 96 Metacritic. It has one 7.5 (from a site that i've never even heard of), two eights and then a bunch of 9's and 10's.
Even if we didn't you would know it's not going to be anything less than a 8. GI will not give a big hyped AAA game less.
I think they gave it a 8.75
dark_inferno
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Wait, i thought everyone would give that game a 10/10 and write then "Troll Review RE6" on the mainpage of every website.
Quite right. A 6/10 from Edge is the least of RE 6's problems when it comes to review scores.
The 4.5 from Gamespot is the harshest when you look at that site's and that reviewer's scores from this generation.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
:/
I wish they would create a HD remake of Revelations for the consoles so it could actually sell something.
But if reviewers do misuse their own scale, and the actual "average" score is something like a 7, then doesn't that make a 5 actually terrible?
It's an honest question. If we were to average out Gamespot's scores given over a year or five year period, doesn't that score then become their actual average? Or do we just presume it would really be a "5" if they covered more games (flash, iOS, shovelware, etc)?
I know this is a conversation for another thread, but god damn I cannot wait until reviewers start using their scale properly.
If a film or TV shows averages 90+ on Metacritic, it's a classic that will remembered for decades (even The Master and Looper are 'only' managing mid-80's).
A game gets 90+ on Metacritic? Must be a Tuesday.
Revolutionary
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So sad, but so true.
I'm sure this game will still sell like crazy despite reviews, especially to those that love the movies.
I'm surprised by the amount of bad scores actually. People keep saying reviewers are bought by publishers but if that is the case here capcon forgot to send the money bags.
I was more or less convinced it would get mixed reviews but this is pretty crazy. I mean the same game gets 3,4,5 scores but also 7,8,9.
Will be interesting to watch Capcom's damage control and how it will affect sales. If the game is that polarizing, I expect store to be soon flooded with used copies.
I was more or less convinced it would get mixed reviews but this is pretty crazy. I mean the same game gets 3,4,5 scores but also 7,8,9.
Will be interesting to watch Capcom's damage control and how it will affect sales. If the game is that polarizing, I expect store to be soon flooded with used copies.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
GamesRadar (3.5/5): http://www.gamesradar.com/resident-evil-6-review/
Reviews which coming out before the embargo are bought by publishers, most of the times.
Ken Masters
Banned
the excuses have begun...
I need to follow Phil Kollar on twitter to see if he's going to give his old GI buddies some shit for that score.
Barkley's Justice
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Back of the box quote!
Bruce Lee Kicks
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I know I said I was gonna stay from GAF today, but I couldn't help it. A few things I wanted to say:
- GAF seems to like the game...well at least the people that got it early. That includes people that flat-out hated the demo.
- People were looking for any and every reason to hate the game. I haven't been on GAF long, but the "hive mind" was in full effect here. No game is perfect, and people pick and choose what "issues" they want to look pass for a franchise they like. I've never seen a game torn apart and nitpicked as much as the demo for this was.
- "Polarizing" is an understatement. "Gamers" seem to be enjoying the game, but not game journalists...people have said parts of the game are as good/better than RE4. Yet the journalists are saying this as bad as ORC? I don't think I've ever played a game that even comes close to being as bad as that game.
- Capcom has to step their game up ASAP. After ORC and this, I can't imagine the series going anywhere but up. Or at least I hope, as Capcom has done a horrible job handling their franchises this generation...
- GAF seems to like the game...well at least the people that got it early. That includes people that flat-out hated the demo.
- People were looking for any and every reason to hate the game. I haven't been on GAF long, but the "hive mind" was in full effect here. No game is perfect, and people pick and choose what "issues" they want to look pass for a franchise they like. I've never seen a game torn apart and nitpicked as much as the demo for this was.
- "Polarizing" is an understatement. "Gamers" seem to be enjoying the game, but not game journalists...people have said parts of the game are as good/better than RE4. Yet the journalists are saying this as bad as ORC? I don't think I've ever played a game that even comes close to being as bad as that game.
- Capcom has to step their game up ASAP. After ORC and this, I can't imagine the series going anywhere but up. Or at least I hope, as Capcom has done a horrible job handling their franchises this generation...
They didn't have many moneybags to toss around this time as they had to pay a huge staff to make, considering the average of the reviews so far, the lowest-rated mainline title in the entire franchise.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
It isn't, if the NeoGAF impressions of people playing it right now are anything to go by. It's agreeable it is a polarizing game that has uneven levels of quality, but it isn't this bad.
Vire
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Bluemercury
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What is mikami up to these days???
I checked on Metacritic, and apparently the average review score given to a game is 72.5.
So, we'd either have to consider almost every game ever reviewed above average, or just say that RE6 is in an incredibly low percentile by some publications' standards.
Because this, just like DNF, was a rather easy target. Gamers have been calling for Capcom's head for quite a while, and a release like this which has been questioned since its reveal trailer is the perfect opportunity for the press to serve it up for them. I want them to take down something they might have something to lose with. Mass Effect 3, Dragon Age 2, and the recent CoD games getting by with what they do while this game is being slaughtered for it isn't right. I want the press to stand by this and show that this type of homogenized, set-piece driven crap isn't acceptable. Regardless of who they are.
Before people start throwing around that I'm defending the game -- I'm not. I have no intention of buying this and have been expecting just this since the game was first publicly shown. I just want this type of reception for this type of derivative shit to be the norm, not the exception for a game that has been ripe for this type of explosion.
Goldenroad
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I couldn't even make it through that demo...I feel sorry for these people that actually had to play through the whole game. I guess I would too if you paid me, but this is the first RE game in the main series that I will be skipping. I hope they can change this franchise around one day, but I've basically lost all faith in Capcom at this point.
Certainly, but I think a lot of this seems obvious in retrospect, where we just expect games to go everywhere eventually.
If he's involved in all the decisions up to a point, and is convinced they're all on the same page about exclusivity, and then things change without any of his input, I can see why he'd feel burned. That doesn't void him of all responsibility, but a great way to take responsibility and make sure something like that doesn't happen again is to leave the shitty company who manipulated you (or you allowed to manipulate you, if you prefer) in the first place.
It's not a bad game.
Unfortunately hating on Capcom and RE's direction since 4 is the cool thing to do now. :/
An average score doesn't reflect the actual "average" score a publication gives overall. It should simply mean that the critic reviewing the game feels that in terms of quality based on his/her personal opinion, the production is average. That's how I see it. Not that I would defend Gamespot's scoring or speak to their reliability in particular.
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