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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm

FyreWulff

Member
Snipers doesn't need to be around when it's just yet another 4v4 Slayer playlist.

Should be deleted from Reach and 3 as well. Dead weight.
 

MinkTANK

Banned
Congrats on being able to post this amazing comment. Just so you know, I don't even think I ever read this thread once before I could post.

T'was painful, but entertaining. Lots of ups, lots of downs. Like reading a novel written by a slightly autistic, bipolar sociopath with a heart of gold.
 

FL1Psyde

Neo Member
Yes, they don't properly test their settings, look at MLG Columbus. Killa KC isn't testing anymore and the game isn't out yet it's not worth trying to do something.



Livonia Walmart has Mountain Dew Halo 4.

hmm...might have to make a trip and buy a couple cases for work
 
Snipers is one of the only bearable playlists in Reach.

That's about the quality of Reach though, not playlist management decisions.

Outside of the BTB playlist being Slayer, I'm pretty happy with the launch playlists. It's a good starting point, and I'm real glad that there is very few, matches the quality of matches so much better.
 
It's teased here because this is the community I've been most active in for the past five years and I feel it will be relevant to the folks here.

I can be a little more specific about what it is not. It is not a review of Halo 4 nor an interview with any Microsoft employee.

Ah man I think the ARG nature of it is what made it difficult for me to initially get into it. Putting out blurry pics at any other time might have generated some cool community fun - but right now I think everyone is so hyped and on edge for Halo 4 content that its hard to want to dig into something else. It was just too hard to tell what I was digging for so I gave up.

Either way thanks for clarifying man - will go forward a bit more interested by it - especially since you said:

There's nothing particularly privileged about the project. It's the biggest undertaking for the staff at FUD and we've approached it rather humbly and with sincere gratitude.

I hope it works out well!
 

Overdoziz

Banned
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From left to right: Jetpack, Thruster, Camo, Hologram, Hardlight, Sentry, Promethean, Regen
It's like halfway through they said "Fuck it, let's just copy the rest" :lol
 
Snipers doesn't need to be around when it's just yet another 4v4 Slayer playlist.

Should be deleted from Reach and 3 as well. Dead weight.

There are entire communities who ONLY play Snipers. Or Swat, or Infection, or Grifball. How can you decide which of those to just cut?

Snipers is a staple of Halo. You can go on Halo 1 PC right now and see entire servers dedicated to Team Snipers. If anything Team Snipers historically has its place in Halo more than the other modes do.

No objective at all. Zzzz. Boring shit that should just be slot 3 in Team Slayer.

Objective in Swat or Snipers is terrible.

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From left to right: Jetpack, Thruster, Camo, Hologram, Hardlight, Sentry, Promethean, Regen
It's like halfway through they said "Fuck it, let's just copy the rest" :lol


That is terrible.
 

Arnie

Member
:(

No sprint disabling

No ranks

No double team

No flag drops

No assassination animation disabling

The hits just keep coming

Infinity cutscenes look dope, though. And I get a shotgun after three kills. And after a certain amount of games, regardless of the result, I get a sweet shoulder piece.
 

nomis

Member
So apparently you can't disable sprint.

...

ADAPT

Also, mulling over their reasoning for auto flag pickup in the BTS, I've decided that it makes about as much sense as not letting you get out of the warthog because "It forces you to commit to being a vehicle driver and support your teammates". Can't have any of dem roles changing up on the battlefield. Nevermind that making the match "dynamic" is their entire reasoning behind personal ordnance and armour mods.
 

IHaveIce

Banned
There were really people who thought sprint could be disabled?

It is now a basic move like meleeing, I thought it was a given that it couldn't
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
Infinity cutscenes look dope, though. And I get a shotgun after three kills. And after a certain amount of games, regardless of the result, I get a sweet shoulder piece.

Aw yeah

Grind like an mmorpg, spends lots of money on stuff, ship with no end game. Sounds like diablo 3
 

FyreWulff

Member
There are entire communities who ONLY play Snipers. Or Swat, or Infection, or Grifball. How can you decide which of those to just cut?

Snipers is a staple of Halo. You can go on Halo 1 PC right now and see entire servers dedicated to Team Snipers. If anything Team Snipers historically has its place in Halo more than the other modes do.

It's such a staple that a Halo has never launched with it as a playlist.

You decide by looking at population, uniqueness, and viability. Team Snipers is Team Slayer with one weapon. In consolidation, you're going for unique popular experiences.

Ranked
Lone Wolves (increased to 12 player limit, but can configure with 6-8)
Team Slayer (add Team Snipers + SWAT slayer gametypes)
Double Team (all DLC required)

Social
Social Slayer (5v5, no DLC req’d, but Legendary and Mythic heavily weighted)
Big Team Battle (8v8, All DLC required)
Multi Team (2v2v2v2, All DLC required)

7 on the 7th
Mythic Grab Bag (6v6, Social Skirmish + Actionsack + Team Mythic + Team SWAT + Team Control + Team Flag) (All DLC Required, DLC maps only)

Not Playlist Specific
Increase no-PTT limit to 8

Could cut it down even more by removing Doubles and Multi Team.
 

Overdoziz

Banned
Isn't that from an earlier build (as Frankie or Ellis said not too long ago)? Unless he has an illegal copy of the final game.
The campaign demo Frankie played had the same AA models (of the bottom row at least), they're most likely final. How you can go from having relatively clear distinctions between AAs in Reach to this is something I don't understand. Looks like it's designed by someone who didn't think about how it would influence gameplay but just thought they looked cool. I get that you won't actually get to pick up AAs in matchmaking (At least at launch) but if you're going to allow us to place them in Forge at least design them in a way so we can actually differentiate them from each other.
 

DopeyFish

Not bitter, just unsweetened
The campaign demo Frankie played had the same AA models (of the bottom row at least), they're most likely final. How you can go from having relatively clear distinctions between AAs in Reach to this is something I don't understand. Looks like it's designed by someone who didn't think about how it would influence gameplay but just thought they looked cool. I get that you won't actually get to pick up AAs in matchmaking (At least at launch) but if you're going to allow us to place them in Forge at least design them in a way so we can actually differentiate them from each other.

I had to stop and rewind the video demo because I couldn't see where the hell he was picking up the hard light AA

Shit is invisible
 

Bsigg12

Member
There were really people who thought sprint could be disabled?

It is now a basic move like meleeing, I thought it was a given that it couldn't

It's people finding more little pointless things to complain about. I find it amusing when people complain about things because its not going to change the fact that its there. Its not like 1 day 343 was like fuck it, you can't drop the flag. No, they took a lot of time and consideration in developing what they have put in the game.

If people think that 343 is doing the things they are doing to spite you, you need to get off your soapbox. 343 is building for a larger audience than just us so attempting to cater to every possible person is impossible.

The changes that we see in Halo 4 are a product of a new developer. It was expected that there would be differences when 343 took over. Yes some of the changes or lack of things seems odd, but they have their reasons. The overwhelming majority of people on here that have played the game however like it. I think that speaks a lot for don't bash it until you play it.

Like Josh Holmes said about the leaks, he has worked on this for 3 years. The employees at 343 have poured countless hours into what looks to be a great game. Why don't we give Halo 4 a chance to release before we completely toss it back to the big salty ocean.
 
It's such a staple that a Halo has never launched with it as a playlist.

You decide by looking at population, uniqueness, and viability. Team Snipers is Team Slayer with one weapon. In consolidation, you're going for unique popular experiences.



Could cut it down even more by removing Doubles and Multi Team.

Bungie has never done a good job with playlists - especially at launch. All I can say is though that clearly the fans want it - and that goes back to when Halo 1 PC launched. You can look at the server browser for that game to see how popular Snipes is. You could quite easily see in Halo 1 PC that Snipers, Slayer and CTF where the mainstream modes people liked to play - you can still see that today.

Population is something we dont have figures for - I know on Halo 3 it did fairly well. Dont play reach enough to know the story there.

Uniqueness - well its pretty unique, a snipers only playlist brings a unique style of play to the table.

Viability - Its pretty viable to have team snipers as a playlist. Easy enough to put the settings together :p
 
It's teased here because this is the community I've been most active in for the past five years and I feel it will be relevant to the folks here.

I can be a little more specific about what it is not. It is not a review of Halo 4 nor an interview with any Microsoft employee.

Im beat. McFarlane toys for FUD? :lol

So apparently you can't disable sprint.

...

I understand sprint being in all the MM, but not having that choice in customs..

DSC00108_zpsbe2a1991.jpg


From left to right: Jetpack, Thruster, Camo, Hologram, Hardlight, Sentry, Promethean, Regen
It's like halfway through they said "Fuck it, let's just copy the rest" :lol

What happened to Armor abilities/mods effecting armor? I guess they scrapped it and went the complete opposite direction.
 

FyreWulff

Member
Bungie has never done a good job with playlists - especially at launch. All I can say is though that clearly the fans want it - and that goes back to when Halo 1 PC launched. You can look at the server browser for that game to see how popular Snipes is. You could quite easily see in Halo 1 PC that Snipers, Slayer and CTF where the mainstream modes people liked to play - you can still see that today.

Population is something we dont have figures for - I know on Halo 3 it did fairly well. Dont play reach enough to know the story there.

Uniqueness - well its pretty unique, a snipers only playlist brings a unique style of play to the table.

Viability - Its pretty viable to have team snipers as a playlist. Easy enough to put the settings together :p

The community wanted Action Sack, it still got deleted from Reach while a redundant 4v4 Slayer list and redundant 4-man Firefight list remain active.

Some communities get thrown under the bus, otherwise all the communities collectively go down the shitter. Just like Halo 3's matchmaking search times!
 

TCKaos

Member
Well less than 24 hours to Double XP and I have yet to see any gamefuel in stores.

My local Publix didn't have any in the actual aisles where the soft drinks and chips are found but actually had diet Mountain Dew with Double XP in those impulse aisles by the register. But only the diet actually had Double XP...
 
I honestly feel sorry for Over and Robbert. They went to First Look wanting to like the game like they saw everyone else who went to conventions do but thanks to what sounded like a horrific setup, the dudes are scarred for life.
 
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