NullPointer
Member
Still don't get it. WHY are they doing this? Whats in it for them? Whats the upside here?
Usually Activision's motives are pretty clear.
Usually Activision's motives are pretty clear.
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Treyarch pull Nuketown 2025 pre-order bonus map in Black Ops 2(Up: Back, in playlist)
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Veezy explained this to you in a post that you casually ignored (it's about 5 or 6 up from another one of your "blame the fans" nonsense):
I'd encourage you (orznge) to try to speak to the points raised by Veezy, as these are why a lot of people are cheezed off. not some straw man/compendium of the worst opinions in this thread that are easy to attack.
teruterubozu
Member
Friday: Make sure you put in your Nuketown code this weekend for Double XP!!
Monday: goodbye Nuketown.
WTF?
Monday: goodbye Nuketown.
WTF?
That's what I'm thinking. I'm doing my part and there is a lot of activity on twitter.
orznge is pissed too. He's probably trolling because he's pissed. Check out his posts from #300 - 400.
like the problem is that I can literally post "Fuck you, you entitled pieces of shit. You paid for a product with no guarantee that that playlist would not be removed less than a week after launch." and people will take it seriously, because there are people on this forum that actually express that sentiment and mean it
Fact is, people like it the way it was. Keeping it that way bothers no one while removing it does. So, that's just kinda being douchey. It's as simple as that.
You know how I'd be on board with you though? If they gave us a reason. The absence of reason is not practical, so you're just promoting the impracticality of the situation. Kinda a low move.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Because in 3 months when sales are in a lull or XBLA traffic is dipping they can bust out "NUKETOWN 24/7 THIS WEEKEND!" to drum up hype and traffic.
I am uh vehemently against this if you didn't notice
Maybe theres a massive glitch in Nuketown and they just dont want to admit it? Any videos of any glitch in BO2 yet?
Its not about the money..
Its about sending a message.
Its not about the money..
Its about sending a message.
teruterubozu
Member
AngmarsKing701
Member
Fuck you, Treyarch. I'll play Halo 4 instead. And I won't be buying your ridiculously overpriced map packs, you pricks.
SapientWolf
Trucker Sexologist
This is quality trolling from Treyarch.
NullPointer
Member
Seriously? So they're idiots then.
Oh wow, sorry about that. Not sure why I read it that way. I've been following since the beginning and guess I didn't see it...
If I can return this tomorrow, I'll be picking up Halo 4. This move singlehandedly broke my unwavering fanboyish abusive love for the series. It'd be nice if the playlist came back but I'm no longer starstruck.
I AM ALTERING THE DEAL. PRAY I DON'T ALTER IT ANY FURTHER.
This sums it up really well.
Guys! I figured it out! They're replacing Nuketown 2025 with Nuketown...2525! Surprise!
Anyways, who the hell at Treyarch/Activision thought this would go over well with people? This screams of them treating consumers like dogs. "Look over here! Nuketown 2025? Nuketown 2025 this weekend only! Whose a good boy! Whose a good boy?"
Anyways, who the hell at Treyarch/Activision thought this would go over well with people? This screams of them treating consumers like dogs. "Look over here! Nuketown 2025? Nuketown 2025 this weekend only! Whose a good boy! Whose a good boy?"
Halo 4 is pretty legit.
Plus without pre-ordering you get new co-op missions every week for free.
Yup. Honestly neither Halo 4 or BO2 completely blew me away, so I had been planning on probably flip-flopping between the two depending on who was on or what DLC was out or whatever. Now I'm selling BO2 tomorrow and getting the Season Pass for Halo 4. I usually have a free Gamefly slot, so at some point if BO2 gets the lag/network issues addressed and they fix the Nuketown fuckup I'll probably just Gamefly it for a while, but that's it. No day one or pre-order from me on the next CoD.
I don't know why specifically, but this has set me off in a way I don't think any other gaming-related bullshit ever has. It's slightly odd because I'm not even a huge fan of Nuketown. I think it's partially because there's just frankly no clear reasoning behind this; usually when a publisher does something fucked there's an obvious money grab or you can write it off as senior management incompetence, but this one is super baffling.
No one thinks this is a good idea. Customer support 101. Nevermind forums, look on Activision's Facebook page. People are pretty pissed.
Your underestimating the CoD addiction. When they bring it back (most likely in a bullshit manor of DLC or weekend's only) people will be praising them again.
CartridgeBlower
Member
As the saying goes, there's no such thing as bad publicity. Especially if this story has a 'happy ending' and Activision puts it back in.
Also, if this trends on twitter, that's just more free advertising for them at this point.
rocksteady1983
Member
They probably took Nuketown off to draw attention away from their shitty netcode problems.
The netcode is absolutely horrible and thats starting to kick in with people I know as well. The ones who used to play religiously traded in MW3 and didn't buy the map packs and are absolutely furious with BO2 netcode and spawns being terrible all over again after empty promises. They shelved it.
My friends who play CoD casually are sick of it too. They don't even know what netcode is but they keep saying this one sucks because they know their shots should landing and they don't. Four of them, casuals, all quit tonight and are done until there's a patch, and won't buy map packs. Time will tell but if they don't get their shit together, hopefully all of this will snowball.
This isn't the kind of free publicity you want. When your product isn't working and you take stuff away, people get pissed. Pissing off gamers is one thing. Pissing off casuals is another. They can take it or leave it. Here's hoping.
Hmm... did you get the hardened edition or something?
I had mine preordered for a while, and was a bit disappointed that it wasn't included. Oh well. It'll probably be in the regular rotation for everyone eventually.
There is such a thing as bad publicity. Activision is, actually, quite familiar with it. The absolute abysmal quality of Tony Hawk's Ride destroying the franchise or Guitar Hero being milked, so hard, that DJ Hero, an actually solid game, felt some of the effects? In the non video game world, see the recent American election results and ask the GOP if bad publicity exists.
Remember, folks, Activison actually doesn't make a ton of money of a ton of franchises. They've got Blizzard and COD. That's their bankrolls. They make a ton of money off them, but WoW or CoD going belly up would destroy their company.
They can't resell the map to people that already own it and the backlash from a map pack having Nuketown in it would, probably, lead to some sort of class action (I'm positive having to buy something you already own to use it when you never agreed to ever losing the right to stop using it is probably frowned upon in some judge's court).
At any rate, this is one of the strangest incidents I've really ever been around. What other example can anybody think of, where a pub/developer sold a part of a game with a pr-order, advertised that as part of an exclusive edition of said game, and then pulled it for zero reason except "it's a special event"?
The only explanation I can give is they couldn't find a way to put Nuketown in a playlist without seriously fragmenting the player base. However, even then, it's still a shit reason 'cause that's not the player's fault and they still paid for the ability to use the map. Well, that and between now and Christmas I'm sure they'll be enough people getting the game that there won't be too huge of a gap.
SketchTheArtist
Member
Just read about this. This sucks. Don't play COD games and I don't buy Activision games.
Please, next time, don't buy any shit from them to show you're against some of their practice otherwise this shit will become normal.
Please, next time, don't buy any shit from them to show you're against some of their practice otherwise this shit will become normal.
Officerrob
Banned
As someone who hates Nuketown with a white hot passion, this is still completely stupid
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
Yup. I was happy that it was on it's own separate playlist so I didn't have to play on that map. Still can't believe they took it down though.
Ban Puncher
Member
Couple of friends were going to trade their copies of BLOPS2 today in protest. I told them to demand full refunds instead under the condition of 'goods sold with falsely advertised features' which they got.
Unhappy? Don't bother with Twitter - express your displeasure with your wallets.
Unhappy? Don't bother with Twitter - express your displeasure with your wallets.
OriginofHysteria
Banned
I wonder how much of that group will be able to connect to the fucking server. Ever since I downloaded that stupid ass patch I can't even play online. I have 1/3 of a game that works. Should've charged me 20 bucks instead of 60.
RiccochetJ
Gold Member
I honestly think they were trying to slow down the level progression and only bring it back for special occasions.
Neuromancer
Member
Well that was fast lol