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Man pushed down onto train tracks by madman, killed. (Photo)
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KernelPanic
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Should blame the editor not the photographer for running that story/photo and headline on the front page.
entremet
Member
It's not about race. I've seen crazy people of all races in the subway. But when someone needs to be institutionalized, they should not be out and about in public transportation.
SolarPowered
Member
Where?
If you've never been in a subway then you have no idea. This compounds even further in NYC train stations. It can get so packed that people have no choice but to stand at the edge sometimes.
Cops can only go where they are assigned so I'm not blaming them in particular. That is on higher ups who force them to go frisking innocent people in the hopes that they'll catch someone with drugs. Still, more cops are seen in train stations than when I was younger so I'm definitely more thankful to the cops and higher ups. I'm a minority, but I'm still relieved to see more police out and about on the streets. They mostly do a good job.
The stations need better safety measures though. Barriers are definitely one thing that should be pushed in downtown Manhattan. It gets brutal down there with the numbers, pushers and mentally disturbed sometimes.
Heisenberg
Member
There is also the risk of touching the third rail, at which point the incoming train wouldn't even matter.
apocalidiot
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Homelessness is a race?
How much am I going to hell for thinking "That could be excellent photosohp material, just replace "man" with "console" and replace the guy with a console shot?
Maybe he has a Lumia
Maybe he has a Lumia
News to me.
Where...? On more cops, like I said, and you said. Barriers aren't necessary.
criesofthepast
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I think he meant stand up against the wall on the track. Some stations have a little gap between the wall and where the train will pass. Theoretically you could hug the wall and the train wouldn't hit you. Most stations the space is not big enough for a person and your gonna get crushed. Not an option really.
Sephiroth503
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Jesus....between this and the story about the Dutch linesman beaten (to death effectively) in front of his child today you just wonder what goes through people's heads...
Alligatorjandro
Banned
What an animal.
Being drunk and stupid isn't justification for dying. Regardless of what he did or didn't do, it's fair to blame the photographer and the other people on the platform for doing shit all.
The cost of retrofitting a 100-year old station with 400+ stations isn't realistic. Not to mention the train sets aren't even standardized in length, some cars are 75 feet, others are 100 feet, so door lineup wouldn't work.
>Barriers aren't necessary.
>Posting in a thread where a man died being pushed onto tracks.
The hell are you on?
Wrong, but ok. I sure as hell wouldn't risk my life to save a drunk stranger that was dumb enough to get in that situation. Sorry if that offends you.
The Elite
BOSS
Wow. I've thought about the implementation of something like this many times. Didn't think it actually existed.
I recall a crazy pushing someone on the tracks in Toronto. I'm surprised more people don't hide under the "lip" of the platform. I've been told by Toronto transit that it's the best place to go if a train is coming and you don't have to move anywhere else.
Deified Data
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No one in the picture is trying to help him.
Byakuya769
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Good thing everyone waved their hands and bags.
The headline, the people not giving a fuck and taking a picture...
Is right out of the first chapter of:
Damn... Oku was right.
was thinking the same thing.
What a dog act
Host Samurai
Member
Gantz. Thats all I have to say
Pretty simple. I think the city should spend the money where it'll do the most good.
Kitsunebaby
Member
Tasteless photo.
This might have been answered but, I know the DC metro has a little spot under one side that you can roll under to avoid the train if you've fallen on the track. Does the New York subway not have that?
This might have been answered but, I know the DC metro has a little spot under one side that you can roll under to avoid the train if you've fallen on the track. Does the New York subway not have that?
radios shipping overview
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Why is this thread full of outrage over the photographer and not the guy who committed murder?
freenudemacusers
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lol
NeoGAF.
You and everyone else in this thread. This all happened in seconds. Wasn't like the dude was on the tracks for 10 minutes before the train came.
Welcome to NEOGAF, enjoy your stay.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
The city is a separate entity from the MTA and the MTA is already strapped for cash
Takamura-San
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Even if it had the man was under the influence of alcohol and most likely very impaired.
Even a sound person can freeze at the moment and not think about moving to the other side of the track, which could have saved his life.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
Well, all these real life internet heroes would've flown in and saved him. Jeez, let them think they could've made a difference.
Easy to "understand" murder. Harder for people to understand someone taking photos whether it was possible to save the guy or not it still brings up questions. Not that surprising.
People were expecting this kind of rescue I assume http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM6a28YRQ0o. This one is pretty crazy considering where the guy was on the tracks.
I'm pretty sure there is consensus that that guy is a piece of shit. Nothing to discuss there,
So, we have to find something to argue about. Neogaf.
Schattenjäger
Gabriel Knight
Piece of shit should be locked up for life
Are they not? I remember back in the summer of 2010 when suicide attempts on the D.C. metro were averaging around 3-5 a week.
I was just thinking about this as well. I guess I thought that all subway platforms would have a place carved out under the "lip" of the platform to roll under in an emergency.
SolarPowered
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I kinda figured cops go where their superiors tell them to, not the MTA. The MTA should have it's own funds and means of improving safety standards. I see your point though. More city money should be used to get the police where they are needed and the subway is one of those places.
MTA has no money for that at all. I guess the MTA could raise rates a bunch in order to fund the barriers. The city would riot.
WeAreStarStuff
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God damn horrific. I actually think about this all the time strangely enough when Im waiting on the metro here in DC. People also tend to commit suicide on the DC metro lines by jumping onto the tracks.
This is awful...
I've seen guys like the murderer at least once a week. Never engage a crazy person on a subway platform. Keep as much distance between you and him as possible while still keeping tabs on them.
Also, if you fall on the tracks, DON'T TRY TO CLIMB OUT. Run away from the train while waving your arms so the driver can see you. Everyone tries to climb out and gets squished. There is a ladder at the end of the platform edge.
I've seen guys like the murderer at least once a week. Never engage a crazy person on a subway platform. Keep as much distance between you and him as possible while still keeping tabs on them.
Also, if you fall on the tracks, DON'T TRY TO CLIMB OUT. Run away from the train while waving your arms so the driver can see you. Everyone tries to climb out and gets squished. There is a ladder at the end of the platform edge.
Count of Monte Sawed-Off
un33dab@dpu$$y
Wow. Yeah, that's horrible. All of it.
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