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Man pushed down onto train tracks by madman, killed. (Photo)
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SugarDaddy
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This is horrible 
And the fact that they published that photo with that headline and caption is completely fucked up.
My condolences to his family, and I hope they catch that son of a bitch.
And the fact that they published that photo with that headline and caption is completely fucked up.
My condolences to his family, and I hope they catch that son of a bitch.
Platform Doors have their own slew of safety issues.
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Deleted member 20415
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Absolutely horrible.
This is one of my semi-irrational fears about riding the MTA. Whenever the train is approaching, I turn to the side (somehow I think this will make it more difficult to be pushed) and make sure there's no one behind me looking crazy.
I feel badly for the train operator - that would mess me up something fierce.
For the people outraged by the Post headline and photo - this is the Post people. This is what they do. They sell newspapers by being the sensational newspaper in town - every headline, every image is pushed to the furthest point. It's a freaking tabloid.
This is one of my semi-irrational fears about riding the MTA. Whenever the train is approaching, I turn to the side (somehow I think this will make it more difficult to be pushed) and make sure there's no one behind me looking crazy.
I feel badly for the train operator - that would mess me up something fierce.
For the people outraged by the Post headline and photo - this is the Post people. This is what they do. They sell newspapers by being the sensational newspaper in town - every headline, every image is pushed to the furthest point. It's a freaking tabloid.
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Deleted member 20920
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There was an incident here (Singapore) 5 years ago where a woman was pushed onto the train tracks by a deranged boyfriend (after she intiatiated a breakup) and that was what the woman did.
Thankfully we have barriers installed at all stations now (after many suicides and incidents of people accidentally falling in due to fainting spells and what not).
In regards to the photographer and the complaints he didn't "help", do people appreciate how long it takes to 1) run to the guy and 2) help him when compared with 3) the speed of a NYC subway train pulling into station?
Based on wherever the photographer was standing and the arrival of the train, he could have all out sprinted and wound up getting there after the guy was hit, for all we know.
Based on wherever the photographer was standing and the arrival of the train, he could have all out sprinted and wound up getting there after the guy was hit, for all we know.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Have people in this thread never seen a NY Post headline before?
They are always ridiculous.
They are always ridiculous.
LyleLanley
Banned
It's the Post, someone probably got a raise for this.
I know the subway systems in some asian countries have sets of sliding doors that only open up when the train is there to prevent such an occurrence, I imagine it's probably too big of a cost for the MTA.
This is a very unfortunate event.
I was born and raised in Brooklyn,NY and have taken the subway plenty of times within my lifetime. There are just some rules that you have to follow while taking or even waitng the train.
One of the main rules involves leaving crazy/disturbed people alone; unless they are physically touching you or within your personal space.
If you feel the urge to allieviate the situation- seek help from some authorative figure i.e. Police or the station operator.
I know the fellow within this article could've never predicted that this would have occured to him; but you must take self preservation into account when confronted with a disturbed individual on the subway.
I was born and raised in Brooklyn,NY and have taken the subway plenty of times within my lifetime. There are just some rules that you have to follow while taking or even waitng the train.
One of the main rules involves leaving crazy/disturbed people alone; unless they are physically touching you or within your personal space.
If you feel the urge to allieviate the situation- seek help from some authorative figure i.e. Police or the station operator.
I know the fellow within this article could've never predicted that this would have occured to him; but you must take self preservation into account when confronted with a disturbed individual on the subway.
No, that part is just not as important as the fact that he got thrown onto the tracks by some crazy panhandler.
What the fuck does this have to do with the topic at hand? Not to mention almost a fifth of their budget is dedicated to paying down old debt and the reason pension costs are rising across the country are due to low interest rates.
killer rin
Member
Safety measures for these kind of incidents should really be implemented. It's mindblowing that this isn't a standard yet.
How is this not standard, It would only cost 4000 at most per station to equip. Considering the money large cities have at their disposal, its easily doable.
Can you imagine this in NYC? Gum, boogers, shit/semen/urine stains all over the glass
Did he already have the camera in use before the incident? Otherwise you need to actually do steps to power up and activate your digital camera or smartphone. Those few seconds could have been used to save his life.
Is it known if he charged for the pictures?
Wow. The materials alone would be a double digital multiple more than that, let alone retrofitting them into 400+ stations, some of which are over 100 years old. The system wasn't designed for it. Also, as I stated earlier, there isn't even a standardized train car length, some are 75-feet, others are 100-feet, so door placement would be an issue until the older rolling stock is retired.
killer rin
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Alright, well it doesn't have to be a full wall, it could be chest height. Anything is better than nothing.
I live in Toronto. When I first started using the subway as a kid, I found it mind boggling that there were no fences or anything, and someone could just fall into the tracks. I guess it's the only subway system I've known so I've gotten used to it. We really should have a system like the one in that picture though.Come on guys, even in that earlier photo the victim didn't have much time to get out of there, and he was drunk. Those trains are damn fast. The photographer really isn't to blame here, although it was pretty scummy of him to get these photos published.
Safety measures for these kind of incidents should really be implemented. It's mindblowing that this isn't a standard yet.
Customers should not be afraid to be there. Maybe security should start cracking down on loiterers. If you're not there to use the transit system, GTFO.
User Name Here
Member
Yeah, the picture is bad enough as it is.
Mammoth Jones
Member
Isn't it possible to just stand in the gap and wait for the train to go by and then try to get out rather than trying to get back up there asap w/ a train looming? That's always been my plan if I fell.
Yea, I take the subway every morning and ugh...I hate it so much.
Yea, I take the subway every morning and ugh...I hate it so much.
Omegasquash
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WOW NYP. That's terrible, and you ought to be ashamed of yourselves for capitalizing on the death of a person.
That's what the construction gangs do, so yes, but if a train were barreling down at you your thought process wouldn't likely be so logical.
LyleLanley
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Especially if you're drunk like the victim appeared to be.
I'm sure someone has run a cost/benefit analysis and the cost of retrofitting them to existing metro stations would be too expensive to justify.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
As someone who grew up in the Midwest,subways terrorize me.
Also, the headline doesn't surprise me. I have a coffee table book with nothing but NYP headlines. I think it's called, "Headless Man Found in Topless Bar." Good toilet reading.
Also, the headline doesn't surprise me. I have a coffee table book with nothing but NYP headlines. I think it's called, "Headless Man Found in Topless Bar." Good toilet reading.
Mammoth Jones
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They're not bad. Just stay away from the edge and avoid eye contact with crazies at all times.
The worst I see are either people arguing or someone preaching about the end of the world in the middle of the subway car. I just ignore em and go about my day. No one bothers me.
Better be pushed on shit than under a train.
cheststrongwell
my cake, fuck off
lol, yeah!
I NEED SCISSORS
Banned
This is why I personally do not stand anywhere near train tracks or roads. It just takes one fucking idiot to take your life from you.
CornBurrito
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Is The New York Post on the same level as The Enqurier, and other gossip rags?
Exterminieren
Banned
You mean the guy who was murdered, yeah?
Warrior_Keoni
Member
I stand away at all times from the tracks until it comes to a complete stop. No way I'm getting near the damn edge of the platform for anything.
TimeEffect
Member
Damn, no reason to get involved
What was everybody else doing, anyway?
Edit: Wait he was drunk?
What was everybody else doing, anyway?
Edit: Wait he was drunk?
The JFK AirTrain has these glass barriers. They look fine to me.
Yah it's easy to judge after the fact but what if you go to help and he pulls you down with him?
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