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Man pushed down onto train tracks by madman, killed. (Photo)
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Stop being outraged, take a breath and think. Please. Your judgment, if it means anything, can wait for more information. Or you can stamp your feet and yell. Whichever makes you feel better.
They don't see the same amount of traffic, aren't underground, and it isn't in shitty neighborhoods.
I guess they can try it out.
What a piece of degenerate trash.
i have photographic evidence that the photographer is a piece of shit. I dont need anymore.
First thing I said. I still dont think it is, until I see it on the news later today, I'm sure I'll see it then...
Trains move so fast, almost instantly to me. Although it was uncalled to get those photos published, I hope the photographer donates all the funds to the victims family or a reward to find the perp.
You stick with that then. Your judgments will correspondingly carry little weight.
polyh3dron
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New York Post, keeping it classy as usual.
Broder Salsa
Banned
Eh we certainly do some places (think all of our metro system but not normal trains), but yeah it isn't the standard at all, it wouldn't really be possible to have them everywhere.
DrForester
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http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/201...-of-nyc-subway-rider-pushed-to-his-death?lite
Police have a suspect in custody.
Police have a suspect in custody.
KO Traveling Hobo
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If he didn't just stand there and take fucking pictures, then you might have had a point.
I wouldn't help the guy either if I thought there was a chance he could pull me in with him or that crazy guy who pushed him in the first place is still around.
This whole thing makes me sick and I'll never touch a Post again. I work a few blocks away and saw the officials swarming the area yesterday- had no idea that this is what happened.
Fuck that photographer and anyone standing up for him.
Fuck that photographer and anyone standing up for him.
In the photo, you can clearly see that no one else is around, let alone the murderer. Reports also state the train was slowing down but he got pinned between it and the platform. I highly doubt it would have pulled anyone with him if it was slowing.
Devolution
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He got pretty close to the edge just to take the pics so...
electroshockwave
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I think you need to read what you quoted. "Abbasi [the photographer] said the driver saw his camera flashing but told him he couldnt stop the train fast enough." So for one we're taking the photographer's word for it but also it doesn't say anywhere that the driver hit the brakes solely because he saw a camera flashing.
Use some common sense. Do you think those photos look like they were taken with no time to prepare while someone was running?
This. Ronald Reagan basically destroyed mental institution in the US.
IIRC, she was still "missing" at the time, so they also gave false hope to the family (and the police) when someone noticed the messages had been accessed.
SystemShock2
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How do you even making a fucking story out of this?
starchild excalibur
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Deadly Cyclone
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Edit: Who knows I guess. Terrible either way. I'm surprised no one tried to pull him up. Or he didn't try to run the other way, would that have even worked?
I don't think anyone could have safely saved him. A kid maybe, but a full sized man is more likely to pull YOU off too in his panic. Think about it. The best place to put your feet is right on the edge. That keeps the pull angle straight down to your feet. Most people would stand back a bit from the edge due to fear of themselves going in too. What's going to happen when someone with a death grip and panic pulls you at 30+degee angle? You're toast. Unless everyone is calm or you have 2 people working together, it's just going to get you killed. There should be some kind of emergency rope attachet to a wall or pillar to help someone out.
Zyrusticae
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As someone pointed out before, the correct response is to run away from the train while waving your arms to try to get the operator to stop and put as much distance between you and the hopefully-braking train as possible. There is a ladder at the end of the platform to use to get out.
This is information that should be common knowledge (as in plastered all over the walls with posters and such). It's hugely unfortunate that it ended up like this.
Good post.Come on guys, even in that earlier photo the victim didn't have much time to get out of there, and he was drunk. Those trains are damn fast. The photographer really isn't to blame here, although it was pretty scummy of him to get these photos published.
Safety measures for these kind of incidents should really be implemented. It's mindblowing that this isn't a standard yet.
Already pointed out in the thread, but these are too risky and not worth the investment. Better go all the way than do a halfass'd job like that.You would think there would be safety barriers in more of the high risk areas. They don't have to be the full height walls, but half like below.
49 street station has 4 tracks. He could of moved to the next one. But panicking does terrible things to your judgement.
Except of course the photographer who thought it would be a cool shot.
Admittedly I didn't really inspect the photos...
How much time was there potentially help this guy out?
why is the photographer getting slack when there was other people on the platform and there's a huge chance that any rescuer would've been yanked down too? Like people have said the guy could have ran away from the train or safely hop over the 3rd rail and stood at the safespot between the two tracks where columns/beams are located. Cameraman outrage is misguided.
Insane.
Dmncnby2k9
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A police source said he was down there for at least 90 seconds.
NullPointer
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Shameless.
90 seconds is more than enough time to run to the end of the track and use the ladder. I'm sure panic played a role and possible intoxication or being stunned from falling onto the track in the first place. Pusher is a coward.
Too many subway rats... Sensors would be going off like crazy.
As for the actual train; I cant imagine how painfull it would be to get tossed from my seat while in the subway car because the train came to a complete stop while doing 40.
NaughtyCalibur
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Everybody shitting on the photographer when there were other witnesses there, one of which was law enforcement, is kinda funny in a horrible way.
Serious question, Ive never ridden a subway besides the BART a few times. Is there a tutorial with pictures of what one could do to survive?, other than jumping out of course. Ive seen some people here mentioning ducking or stepping to the side etc.
edit: I meant high speed transportation
edit: I meant high speed transportation
Air Zombie Meat
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Nothing beyond "Don't go on the tracks" I would have thought. Which is pretty good advice.
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It's weird how the NYC train couldn't be stopped with the guy falling a good distance away from the tunnel entrance and the train still 60-90 seconds away, yet the Boston train was stopped within only 20 seconds of the woman falling right at the tunnel entrance.
Do Boston trains have better brakes and brighter headlights?
Edit: Another instance of a subway train being stopped with a much shorter reaction time: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t18HRNrQTs
Lumpy Onion
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Pretty much the first thing that popped into my head while reading the article.
And that cover and headline. Talk about tasteless shit. Christ. Pretty much par for the course for the publication tho.
Devolution
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Not saying he was able to help but he was probably not too concerned for his safety given the angle of the pics.
Callo Merlose
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Yeah, I love hot the photographer tried to twist his vulturism into heroism. Fucking scumsack.
The Faceless Master
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i'm gonna guess yes. the entire NY subway system is pretty ancient.
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