tsukixkumori
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Ah, thank you! I was signed up here for a while and lurked, but never got around to replying to any topics. ouo
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Virtue's Last Reward SPOILER Thread
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Ah, thank you! I was signed up here for a while and lurked, but never got around to replying to any topics. ouo
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
I'm wishing I could find a copy of Ever17 as well. If it mindfucks you more than 999...I can't even imagine. Uchikoshi is a genius.
EDIT: While I'm on the topic of other great visual novels, does anyone know of any good, easier to find ones that also have Japanese dialogue with English subs? I'm learning Japanese, and may be living there next year and I've found that they are a fantastic way to brush up on your listening comprehension.
EDIT: While I'm on the topic of other great visual novels, does anyone know of any good, easier to find ones that also have Japanese dialogue with English subs? I'm learning Japanese, and may be living there next year and I've found that they are a fantastic way to brush up on your listening comprehension.
This just in: Phantom Pain is the sequel to VLR, you're playing as Sigma (who lost only one arm), has white hair and the entire facility is the Nevada Test Site.
i can dream
You could link that up with the fact that all of them had their thought processes slowed down by Radical-6, and nobody actually sounded like they should've.
I was thinking he was getting at Sigma getting the knowledge from an alternate self.
But yeah, Junpei is mostly likely, as he was even in the very same room at one point.
Yep, that's what I was thinking. The first game was about a single morphogenetic field pass between a "sender" and a "receiver"; the second game is about using it to jump between timelines and conciousnesses; the third one will most likely be about accessing some sort of a "collective morphogenetic field" in the fourth dimmension. Grabbing knowledge from other people sounds like the evolution they might go for.
Also, there's one more thing I remembered: the "flashback" with Sigma and Phi being unable to defuse one of the bombs. Is it just a scenario where you can't input a password, or will it be explained in the following game?
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Here's a brainteaser for everyone:
If the players' perception of time slowed down due to the effects of Radical-6, how was it that the bombs didn't explode before their bracelets reached 0:00? Did the bombs magically run on Radical-6 time?
This has probably been discussed before, but it's been bugging me all day.
If the players' perception of time slowed down due to the effects of Radical-6, how was it that the bombs didn't explode before their bracelets reached 0:00? Did the bombs magically run on Radical-6 time?
This has probably been discussed before, but it's been bugging me all day.
Hours Left
Member
My thought is that because Akane knew about the bombs, she altered the timers to be on Rad6 time, as well as providing the input device.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
It's not impossible that Akane took it off of Dio while he was unconcsious.
Dion Blaster
Member
No I actually got that scene when I gave up inputing one of the bomb passwords I forgot to write down, just to see what happens. I assume you get that scene for failing any of those. Similar to how you get a game over for not knowing the lion passwords.
Those moments in the story should be marked with a Lock or a similar tile; it was hard to find them afterwards in the tangled mess of FLOW.
podracer35
Member
drew a thing
Oh my god... Put that in comic book colors and we've got a flawless piece of art right there!
I was just thinking... Since people being a different age than they appear is a theme in this game, does anyone else think we might be finding out more about Lotus in the next game? She really doesn't look old at all, but people were constantly making cracks about her age. Maybe there's more to it...
Novels have good art apparently
i don't remember june consoling clover. that must be the worst timeline.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
So, I was gathering art for Kyle because he's awesome when I came across this:
Feels good, man.
Also, free avatar to whoever wants it:
Feels good, man.
Also, free avatar to whoever wants it:
drew a thing
Ahhh I saw it on tumblr, good one
***
in fact, I think I have you followed on tumblr
which means... you drew this little masterpiece
Novel actually has a somewhat different story is what I hear because they only do one loop so everything sucks
BUT
Junpei and June get a happy ending (as Tricksy found a while back)
ALSO QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ASKED UCHIKOSHI ARE GOING LIVE
podracer35
Member
That's.... Kind of awesome, still.... The art is reaaallyy nice! And I think June did Console Clover at some point with regards to Snake... But I'm not 100% sure. :/Novel actually has a somewhat different story is what I hear because they only do one loop so everything sucks
BUT
Junpei and June get a happy ending (as Tricksy found a while back)
ALSO QUESTIONS THAT CAN BE ASKED UCHIKOSHI ARE GOING LIVE
And maaannnn I want to ask questions so badly! But I can't think of one! >.< (Unbelievable, I know.)
Also:
It's missing Clover and Alice, but OMGYESH! IT'S SWIMSUIT TIME!!!
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Hours Left
Member
I don't know what to ask. There are so many questions... @_@
podracer35
Member
Hmmm.... That's a good idea. I don't have concrete questions, but I have some brainstorming topics, I guess... It's all slowly coming to me, haha.
How about some clarification on how the branching timelines affects 999's plot. I know 999 had a whole stable time loop... paradox... thing... going on, but VLR kind makes it seem like all the other paths are their own timelines, while 999 made it seem like they were only possible futures being observed by a young Akane.
By extension: does this make the ability to "jump" available to all ESPers? If not, what makes Sigma, Phi, and Kyle (or ???) so special?
Isn't there already another timeline where Radical-6 isn't released? Why are Akane and Sigma trying so hard to create a future where the world is safe from Radical-6, if there should already be a timeline like that. (I'm assuming timelines split at any major event, creating an infinite number of timelines.)
So If/when they do manage to create the ideal timeline at point "E", the timeline where they failed will also still exist. Doesn't that make everything they're doing pointless? Or is there more to the overall plan that involves the method of transporting a body through time?
I'm sure there are answers to these already, but I've come up with them so far to share here. Maybe this way we can spot check and make sure we have some great questions to ask!
I don't think it was. Uchikoshi said he had no plans for a sequel at the time of 999... But it wouldn't hurt to ask, actually... Dude probably has a ton of tricks up his sleeves.
How about some clarification on how the branching timelines affects 999's plot. I know 999 had a whole stable time loop... paradox... thing... going on, but VLR kind makes it seem like all the other paths are their own timelines, while 999 made it seem like they were only possible futures being observed by a young Akane.
By extension: does this make the ability to "jump" available to all ESPers? If not, what makes Sigma, Phi, and Kyle (or ???) so special?
Isn't there already another timeline where Radical-6 isn't released? Why are Akane and Sigma trying so hard to create a future where the world is safe from Radical-6, if there should already be a timeline like that. (I'm assuming timelines split at any major event, creating an infinite number of timelines.)
So If/when they do manage to create the ideal timeline at point "E", the timeline where they failed will also still exist. Doesn't that make everything they're doing pointless? Or is there more to the overall plan that involves the method of transporting a body through time?
I'm sure there are answers to these already, but I've come up with them so far to share here. Maybe this way we can spot check and make sure we have some great questions to ask!
I don't think it was. Uchikoshi said he had no plans for a sequel at the time of 999... But it wouldn't hurt to ask, actually... Dude probably has a ton of tricks up his sleeves.
cj_iwakura
Member
Submitted mine.
As you guys have already noticed, the official Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward Fan Q&A is now up and ready for any and all questions, no matter how spoilery!
http://www.aksysgames.com/2012/12/10/official-zero-escape-virtues-last-reward-fan-qa/
Will be very exciting to see what gets asked and how Uchikoshi responds!
http://www.aksysgames.com/2012/12/10/official-zero-escape-virtues-last-reward-fan-qa/
Will be very exciting to see what gets asked and how Uchikoshi responds
!As you guys have already noticed, the official Zero Escape: Virtue's Last Reward Fan Q&A is now up and ready for any and all questions, no matter how spoilery!
http://www.aksysgames.com/2012/12/10/official-zero-escape-virtues-last-reward-fan-qa/
Will be very exciting to see what gets asked and how Uchikoshi responds
How long do you think we have to wait for the answers? Based on the answers for 999.
Novels have good art apparently
Does anyone have links for the novel? I'd like to check it out, even if it's not as good as the game. (Japanese language version is fine too)
Dion Blaster
Member
Studying late for calculus, just realized how perfect of a name Sigma is for him, very clever. Tomorrow I'll have to look for what meaning Phi has.
Kyle's voice acting was among the best btw, pretty much exactly what I was imagining the whole time playing as sigma.
Kyle's voice acting was among the best btw, pretty much exactly what I was imagining the whole time playing as sigma.
We kinda already knew who "?" is.
Blick Winkel, aka the player, you.
So it's probably the main character of Volume 3.
Spoilered because it's not related to VLR only.
Kinda off-topic, but is that spoiler going to ruin my experience with
Ever17
BTW: I've played through both 999 and VLR (and got the Platinum-trophy :3), and I've also heard there are some twist which really feel like some that are in
Ever17
meltingparappa
Member
How much of a spoiler it is depends entirely upon how much you read into the context of how that name is used. There is indeed a character named
Blick Winkel
Ever17
You should really play it, it's great!
Ironically I wonder if having played
Ever17
CrankyKong
Member
So the third game will be set between 999 and VLR, but Sigmas consciousness will travel back in time?
Apparently, yes. There'll be young Junpei, young Sigma, Tenmyouji & Quark (confirmed on Twitter) and probably Akane (come on, the series wouldn't be the same without her). What we don't know is whether the main character will be any of them, the "?" featured in "Another Time", or a completely new person.
ScraftyDevil
Banned
Don't forget that Dio and Kyle have also been confirmed to appear!
I know he is
the player and something about a white light, then I stopped reading the spoiler
podracer35
Member
Submitted my questions after a bit of thought... I may or may not ask more. >.>
I really hope these get answered. :/
I really hope these get answered. :/
podracer35
Member
So I found these, and they make almost too much sense to not be true (except maybe the Luna one...):
Dion Blaster
Member
It hurts my brain thinking of what this could imply for part 3.
slightconfuse
Banned
submitted a question about quarks relation to anyone.
...and then he CLONED HIMSELF AS A WOMAN BECAUSE WHY NOT
podracer35
Member
You never know...
And the real meaning behind what Phi said just dawned upon me: She is no man... Not even a Woman...
But then... What is she?
slightconfuse
Banned
Does the technolgy for cloning exist in the past? or is in the future.
maybe Phi is a clone fo Aoi who was sent back in time to help Sigma in the mars project. i twould also explain how clover and Alice, can travel back in time.
there is more to the Q room than meets the eye im guessing
maybe Phi is a clone fo Aoi who was sent back in time to help Sigma in the mars project. i twould also explain how clover and Alice, can travel back in time.
there is more to the Q room than meets the eye im guessing
SaintMadeOfPlaster
Member
I'm pretty sure the game mentions that K was made during the 40 years of creating the third Nonary Game.
EDIT: I guess that doesn't mean that cloning couldn't have existed before that. So who knows?
EDIT: I guess that doesn't mean that cloning couldn't have existed before that. So who knows?
Dion Blaster
Member
Phi is actually Hylia, the Goddess of Time.