Uno Venova
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Exactly yes, I'm not paying any more than 399 myself.
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Sony : Vice President for Japan hints at possible PS4 announcement in May/June
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Chuck Norris
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Gamers.
Lagspike_exe
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I paid 500 for PS3 and I don't regret it. I'll pay 500 again if they make it an attractive platform again.
Lion Heart
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$400 if it lasts five years or $500 if it lasts six years. Thats what I want.
I said hot damn! :lol
Iacobellis
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I would take a cheaper console with no hardware BC than one that can play PS3 games at the expense of it being $450+.
My Visa is ready
or maybe....
Sigh... one job, with an entertainment spending budget after expenses and investments toward goals like education or stocks and medical. Price won't determine if I buy the cheaper option, it only determines how soon I buy what I want.
or 3 weeks of ot
I miss overtime.Sony may have too, now that I think about it. If Sony/MS announce consoles with similar features making it a a good 50/50 chance that announcing first may be the way to get favor with the media and consumers.
Microsoft I believe always goes on stage a day before Sony and Nintendo at E3, giving Microsoft a strong lead in the media, even by just one day.
You know Microsoft goes hardcore with marketing.
For instance since Microsoft is one of the Lead Sponsors (through Bing) at Sundance 2013 attendees were told to use any other phone except an iPhone. We had to swap out a few of our reporters iPhone's for blackberry's for the event or they would either lose admittance or be given limited access to the event.
With Sony's financial woes, taking advantage of early announcements provides a form of FREE marketing when going against a company with a huge marketing budget.
have you still got it? i paid a lot for mine too just after a launch and it still plays like a champ
Holy shit that sounds so insane...I think an earlier announcement will help sony but it won't dent microsoft's marketing campaign.
AgentChris
Member
Throw in a CELL chip and I would pay a extra $50.
metalslimer
Member
If they're going to put out beast machine they better take a loss to give it to me at a reasonable price.
Lagspike_exe
Member
have you still got it? i paid a lot for mine too just after a launch and it still plays like a champ
Yup, 40GB bought in December 2007, still works.
Wow that's a load of BS. If they're forcing people to change their phones, they should loan out some Windows Phones to people who came there with iPhones.
Aquamarine
Member
Or have it subsidized. Honestly that's the only way I can see these companies putting out something truly beastly.
What was the marketing budget for Kinect -- 150 million? Nextbox will dwarf that.
I wonder if Sony would ever consider going with a base PS4 with backwards compatibility provided by Gaikai (so dependent on Internet connection etc) and a more expensive model with hardware BC - either built in, or through inclusion in the box of that BC USB stick they patented a while back?
Na this is MS they throw rael money at it 150 million is chump change lol. I expect the same for the next xbox launch.
Microsoft Reportedly Spending Half a Billion Dollars on Kinect Campaign
http://www.industrygamers.com/news/...ng-half-a-billion-dollars-on-kinect-campaign/
NeoGAF has a total hangup on price. This was not what made the PS3 perform poor!
You have to see it relative to what it does, its amazing that people dont get this!
Sony ate about $300 per console at launch with the PS3. They jam packed it with new tech and ate a huge costs up front. One thing about sony is they truly believed in their product and went for it. The decision could not have been an easy one at the executive level.
MS spent $500 million on Kinect and another $500 million on Windows Mobile Phone 7 during the same quarter.
Not sure what the numbers were for Win8 and WinMobile8.
My call is it won't be called PS4 due to 4 being bad in Japanese culture.
I however am not sure we're not going to see another $599 console. PS3 is still sitting higher than $200 after 7 years.
This is going to be an interesting year for gaming no matter which way you put it though.
I however am not sure we're not going to see another $599 console. PS3 is still sitting higher than $200 after 7 years.
This is going to be an interesting year for gaming no matter which way you put it though.
Byakuya769
Member
You think the former market leader wouldn't have busted out of the gate much stronger if it was priced on par with it's other HD competitor?
I kinda wouldn't be surprised if Sony priced it a little higher in order to profit off hardware sales from day 1 (even if it's a really tiny profit). The way the company is at the minute, it wouldn't surprise me. I know Playstation is one of their most profitable parts, but still, wouldn't surprise me to see it happen.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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My man.
SweetTeddie
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Let's hope they decide to invest in a ton more server farms or whatever will make PSN downloads faster.
So wrong. Like if all people will racionalize it like that. Its a freaking games console. Cost will be on top of the list even if makes cofee.
It was easy for the suites because they thought bluray would end up as popular as DVD and winning the format war was priority number 1 at the time. They figured they would make 10s of billions from royalties and selling their movie catalog again at a premium. They did not see the whole DD and netflix type of streaming coming. It was the same suites who were very bitter over losing out to VHS.
-Pyromaniac-
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what if it was the best shit ever, I'm talking the neez of the beez here. But it was $2000.
you'd still want that??
Lagspike_exe
Member
Well, not really. And consider it this way, I planned on using it for 5-6 years, so 1 more to go, and judging by PS4 rumors, it seems like I nailed it. At 6 years, the yearly cost of hardware would be a little bit more than 80. That's not really that much, considering the entertainment value. And it was cheaper than buying and upgrading a gaming PC anyway.
And I know people who payed 725 for day 1 bundles.
I'm not rich. Far from it. But i paid £525 for my launch PS3 bundle and wouldn't hesitate to do the same for Ps4 if that's the price and it looks to offer a lot
Contrast that with Vita's initial marketing budget of 50 million. Lol.
Amen. I have the money because I make the money so I can spend my damn money. lol @ wonderbook
How old are you? Jeez some of the post in this forum are head shakers
-Pyromaniac-
Member
oh we have our serious hats on.
my bad. But for real though. I want a strong console but not an expensive one. Because I want people to buy it. I want as much support as possible.
BruceLeeRoy
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Yup. Totally agree, I want some bleeding edge tech.
The perceived acceptable market cost for a console is pretty fricken ridiculous when you think about what you are getting. For many of us it is our entertainment of choice. The mileage I have gotten out of both the 360 and PS3 is insane for the money I put down for both.
shinobi602
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It was certainly a large factor.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I think perceptions have changes over the last 7 or 8 years that it has been. I don't think a $500 SKU could cut it any more, regardless if the price is greatly justified.
There has to be a SKU that's at least $399.
especially since I sincerely think that this time around, they can really wow us. I fully expect both PS4 and 720 to be able to captivate our imaginations for times to come (watching GGs).
shinra-bansho
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Given consumer price sensitivity, I would imagine $399 is the ceiling. Maybe $449 at most. A $499 console won't sell even if it's a substantial upgrade.
Or rather it will sell, but as poorly as the PS3 did prior to numerous price drops and the eventual Slim.
Calling it now, $450 and $500.
SneakyStephan
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It doesnt matter how much it costs as long as it is good bang for your buck...
A 599 console with lots of fast ram, a sizeable HDD and powerful gpu and cpu to match would be a lot better than putting 150 dollars worth of low end hardware in a 300 dollar console.
What I'm trying to say is, I hope that whatever they put into ps4 , that the price reflects it and that buyers get a decent value for their money.
A 599 console with lots of fast ram, a sizeable HDD and powerful gpu and cpu to match would be a lot better than putting 150 dollars worth of low end hardware in a 300 dollar console.
What I'm trying to say is, I hope that whatever they put into ps4 , that the price reflects it and that buyers get a decent value for their money.
I'm pretty sure if the PS3 had come in at the same price as the 360, the outcome of this generation would have been different. $599 was the game changer and the back breaker for Sony's dominance going into the last generation.
Agreed that we won't see a repeat of PS3 pricing. With the PS3 they had blown a pretty sizeable R&D budget on the Cell processor, so there was that plus the fabs they made specifically for it. With the PS4 it appears to be more off the shelf components, with some tweaks. AMD already put the R&D into the Jaguar cores it will (likely) use, no need for Sony to reinvent the wheel there. And the bigger part of course was the blu ray player which is rather cheap now. When the PS3 launched standalone players cost more than it.
i think it was a factor, but if it was better in graphics than a 360 the extra price wouldve made
alot more sense. i looked at the launch lineup and reviews, then i looked at gears of war and
ya, wat sony idc about bluray or this other shit and multis still to this day performing worse
was embarassing imo. plus the controller of the ps3 same old shit, worse online etc.
if they just outdid the 360 in graphical tech i think it wouldve done better.
they had to get cocky and have their trojan horse for blu ray. hd dvd wouldve won if they dint i guess.
but me as a gaming consumer could give less of a shit.