NoLootBoxDev
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Why? Sony has more exclusives than Microsoft this gen(IMO).
Is it going to be different next gen?
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Why? Sony has more exclusives than Microsoft this gen(IMO).
Is it going to be different next gen?
their exclusives are only as good as the competition. if nintendo and sony are releasing 6+ exclusives a year while MS is releasing 1 something is wrong.
sony have invested strongly in exclusives this gen
Actually MS started out really big with exclusives last gen.
Problem was nobody was really buying those games except for the Team Ninja stuff, Halo, and PGR.
Go fig.
Microsoft pumped out more exclusives with the Xbox 1 compared to the Xbox 360.
Remember Brute Force?
Trackpad? Please only use it for the browser, Sony.
Way way too early to tell. We need to get a good idea about their goals/aims with the systems.
As I see it, at this point at least, MS is the unknown. MS came into this gen as THE gamers console. But they have gone on a different path later in the gen. Sony messed up hard at the start but then got their shit together and built a really strong and diverse first party. I think that's telling on what their goal is with the next system
At the end of the day, all the media and such features are secondary to a gaming console. It comes downs to games and maybe some wow factors (like motion controls on the wii)
gundamkyoukai
Member
I don't think they game up on them , i expect to see a big push by MS come next gen .
Where both Sony and MS going to have a good amount of exclusive so it comes down to services and features where MS seem to have the edge .
While MS might hot have as much as Sony if any body thinks MS not coming out the gate with a few Gear like exclusives kidding there self .
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Don't worry. This isn't true in any way possible. This is a recipe for disaster; not only the features of controller itself but also the release date.
But the PS3 and PSVita are good indicators.
BloodMoney
Banned
What exclusives does Microsoft have? Halo and Gears? They jumped ship 2 years ago and focused on being the best box for COD.
iceatcs
Junior Member
I think it is quite myth people are buying for service. The feature such as accessors I could agree with that, see at Wii Balance Board and Kinect.
I think software and price is very important too. Timing as well.
ie PS4's GT6 launch in EUR around sametime with 720's launch will give Sony edge for EUR.
or
Costly PS4 weak launch titles and cheaper 720 better launch titles will give MS in EUR.
yeah when 3rd party exclusives still existed, they're extinct.
For some reason I have this feeling that when Durango launches, Xbox Live will be totally different from what it is now, an that includes paying for online multiplayer.
yeah MS isn't stupid. if not first party they will definitely have 1-2 big third party exclusives ready for the next system
I do think Sony will have an advantage over the sheer number of potential third party exclusives though, due to Japanese third parties. Time will tell
MS will start off strong, either in moneyhatting the hell out of Big IP's or showing off big ass IP's. Most likely the latter since they need them the most. They know how to play the game.
Japan was on a high note last gen got damn they even took a hit this gen.
The market was definitely more....flexible then it is now, pertaining to buying games/consoles. I think next gen will be rocky for both companies.
Japan was on a high note last gen got damn they even took a hit this gen.
ThisWreckage
Banned
I honestly believe that a vast majority of people do not give a damn about features and they're betting on the wrong horse. Microsoft seems to want to create an all-in-one device, but that already exists. It's called a smart phone. I felt like they lost their way the second half of this generation by focusing on a bunch of features no one was clamoring for.
it isnt going to be different
MS never had alot of exclusives this gen. more developer support at the beginning of this gen DOES NOT=more exclusives
Won't that be super big ?
For controller id color, it's probably the Move light ball or light LED.
Your friend may be pulling your leg tho.
Graphics Horse
Member
Aw no big glowy balls please.
Karak
Member
A mix for sure. The one thing that will be nice is the return to 3rd party exclusives. The best part is there is a VERY good financial reason for some companies to go to something like that versus double dipping a development schedule. Especially if there is "lets just say" a parity contract being enforced. This swings both ways by the way. Of course. For both Sony and MS and WiiU
I would say that it paid off big time. They were able to keep prices of the system way up with services and kinect. With out those they would be in rough shape IMO. I would not be shocked to see lot of big time exclusive games come E3 for MS. I think they sent their teams to next generation sooner because they could. Sony still has big teams working on current generation because they have to. While it would suck to wait a few months but damn I wish the last of us was a launch PS4 title.
ThisWreckage
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Paying a ton of money for third party exclusives makes zero sense now. You may even end up getting burned by doing that like Sony did with LA Noire.
You know the famous saying
Where there's money, there's a way
ok I know I modified it a bit but you get the idea
Dr. Zoidberg
Member
Third parties.
The reports of their death may be greatly exaggerated. Did it ever occur that the death of the 3rd part exclusive had a lot to do with the fact that nobody was willing to pay for them? MS had several exclusive JRPGs they bought for Japan (that ultimately did nothing over there). However, at the beginning of the gen it makes sense to spend the big bucks for those because it's cheaper than supporting the studios long-term.
Let's look at what happened to the Vita. How did Nintendo securing Monster Hunter work out for them? I thought third party exclusives were extinct? But no, they are alive and well and a well-chosen one can do wonders for a platform.
What if COD is Durango exclusive? Elder Scrolls 6? How will that affect the NA market?
Halo, Gears, Forza & Kinect shite.
gundamkyoukai
Member
I should point out that having more services and features plus games looking the same is huge marketing point for MS.
If it's anything MS knows how to do is market stuff .
For eg lets you can record stuff MS saying play the next COD while recording a TV show would be huge if Sony can't do with amount marketing dollars they would put behind it .
If it's anything MS knows how to do is market stuff .
For eg lets you can record stuff MS saying play the next COD while recording a TV show would be huge if Sony can't do with amount marketing dollars they would put behind it .
They can't retrofit, that's why.
A mix for sure. The one thing that will be nice is the return to 3rd party exclusives. The best part is there is a VERY good financial reason for some companies to go to something like that versus double dipping a development schedule. Especially if there is "lets just say" a parity contract being enforced. This swings both ways by the way. Of course. For both Sony and MS and WiiU
Do you have any indication about these exclusive 3rd-party games having a PC version or being timed-exclusives?
ThisWreckage
Banned
Sony has probably had certain studios working on PS4 titles for at least two years now. Sucker Punch, GG, and Santa Monica come to mind.
IDK Karak it depends. I remember Rockstar was upset over the deal with MS on GTA4. Something about losing money over the DLC or something. Sony lost big time on LA Noire.It depends on the Devs most likely
I still feel next gen will come down to who has the better ecosystem and still always the best "freedom" without being tied down to a wall garden. The whole thing that "exclusive games=automatic winners" is over. It's all about the best all around media hub.
I still feel next gen will come down to who has the better ecosystem and still always the best "freedom" without being tied down to a wall garden. The whole thing that "exclusive games=automatic winners" is over. It's all about the best all around media hub.
The misconceptions surrounding 1st party support are interesting, that's for sure.
I have a feeling many at GAF would feel this way. If it turns out true, the bitter tears will be hilarious.
The more custom the hardware, the more expensive it may be.
The RSX also did 1.8TFLOPs on paper, which is why we shouldn't pay attention to such specs. The PS4 or 720 can both look more powerful on paper when looking at certain angles, but we won't know the whole story until both are out.
SMH.
I have a feeling many at GAF would feel this way. If it turns out true, the bitter tears will be hilarious.
The more custom the hardware, the more expensive it may be.
The RSX also did 1.8TFLOPs on paper, which is why we shouldn't pay attention to such specs. The PS4 or 720 can both look more powerful on paper when looking at certain angles, but we won't know the whole story until both are out.
SMH.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Who in the hell doesn't have DVR nowadays?
Karak
Member
There is that. Mixed in with the GTA side stories price announced making people think that large amount needs to change hands. Its great to go back and read the dev intereviews who did some exclusives at the starting of the last 2 gens and you get a good picture that a cash payout wasn't in the cards. Access to specific tools, assistance from companies own devs, and lack of reliance on parity contracts was a huge boon.
A smart company wouldn't go for a massive 3rd party dev that requires a huge payout. But instead go for a couple of the smaller companies that would LOVE to have that extra help both financially and coming to grips with new systems. It spreads your dev portfolio and gets you quantity for less and lets you see if anything catches in the new gen.
Exactly so.
Proelite
Member
I think for E3 2013, they'll show
2 Rare titles
1 Lionhead title
1 Epic title
Alan Wake 2
The Black Tusk Shooter
Ryse
in addition to first previous of COD, Battlefield, Destiny, and other third party games.
7 exclusives for E3 isn't bad, unless Sony shows off 10 or more.
I expect MS to have their most amazing E3 in terms of games shown. I don't even know the OS features are even ready to be demoed, since the teams would be in crunch mode.
2 Rare titles
1 Lionhead title
1 Epic title
Alan Wake 2
The Black Tusk Shooter
Ryse
in addition to first previous of COD, Battlefield, Destiny, and other third party games.
7 exclusives for E3 isn't bad, unless Sony shows off 10 or more.
I expect MS to have their most amazing E3 in terms of games shown. I don't even know the OS features are even ready to be demoed, since the teams would be in crunch mode.
Nintendo already gave you a preview of what to expect when they acquired Bayonetta 2.
I expect at least 1 exclusive FF game for PS4
And another third party exclusive for PS4 that nobody saw coming.
Vrrrrrrrm Vrrrrm.
Turn 10 Reveal/Incubation
I expect at least 1 exclusive FF game for PS4
Luminous FF Versus XIII
And another third party exclusive for PS4 that nobody saw coming.
Vrrrrrrrm Vrrrrm.
Turn 10 Reveal/Incubation
I don't know a single person who owns an actual DVR. My TV allows me to save to SD card or USB HDD, but I have never used this functionality.
If I want to watch something on TV after it airs, I either use that channel's catch-up web app or download the torrent.
SniperHunter
Banned
did they strike another deal with Epic? Damn....I guess Epic is pretty much a MS first party at this point
This is what I was thinking. Wasn't Obsidian working on a 720 exclusive before MS canned it? I think there are devs who would be more than happy to have work.
ThisWreckage
Banned
Sony won't show that many I think. Not because they don't have that much cuz I'm certain they do, but because unlike MS and Nintendo they spread out their reveals much more evenly through E3/GC/TGS.
gundamkyoukai
Member
It was just a example it could be anything else the point was to show the advantage MS would have marketing wise and we know they willing to spend nuff on marketing .
The PS3 can record TV shows while playing games. Just not available in the US.
I would faint.