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[Can Crusher]

Both are incorrect since the WiiU is more powerful.

Unfortunately, this is the truth.

All hail our saviors Nintendo.

 

[TheOddOne]

Teraflops are fun for fanboy pissing contests but don't amount to much when it comes to the real world. As far as gaming is concerned anyway. There are several components to take into account: CPU, GPU, RAM, Storage... You could put a 16 gazillion teraflops CPU in your computer and the graphics card would still be the bottle neck...

Just take this generation. While the PS3 has the theoretical processing power advantage, some would argue that most of the multiplatform games run better on 360. Then others would argue that there is no way in hell the 360 could run Uncharted...

My take: I don't give a flying fuck. Just take my money. My body is ready for all your god damn toys.

Quoting this excellent post that nobody will give a buck about. You good peoples, Green.

 

[Phonomezer]

LOL

Throw us a bone. This thread is going to go nuclear in a matter of pages, I can feel it..

 

[VariantX]

Those read like your average youtube comments, yep. I didnt know we all hated one company over the other.

 

[Reiko]

LOL

Funs over... -_-

 

[Kazuma Kiryu]

The source of the NowGamer rumour has said some other important things in the past:

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/102720.html

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/103483.html

jesus christ

 

[thuway]

Shame on Thuway

Someone wants to kill me?

100% honest, there was a time I believed we'd get super powerful consoles that were a lot larger than 2 TF. I was wrong though, and I've come to accept that. Go through my post history where I've argued tooth and nail for a 4 TF machine.

 

[Snubbers]

You're reading the specs complete wrong. The power on the PS4 DDR5 ram is so much better than the DDR3 that the PS4 will atleast have a 50% raw power advantage over the xbox. Not to mention the power consumption will be far less because DDR5 is designed to have less power consumption but much more power output. The PS4 has more teraflops meaning it can render more graphic stuff and better FXAA. And more important, they invented blu ray so they'll be more familiar with how to read/write from/to the disc which will probably mean (estimation here) a speed boost of atleast 20%. In total that's almost 100% more power than the xbox.

Only 100%? What a fail, I remember the 300% more powerful citations when it came to PS3 vs 360 (based on Cell, but is GPU the new CPU for this gen)..

It's like Sony almost deliberately go out their way to ensure they have much larger numbers just to pander to the people who react to that crap..

Mind you, they may indeed have a balanced design that can make the most out of their big numbers, in which case, MS need to be very afraid..

I'm happy to sit back, buy both and as long as they are both there or there abouts, I'll be a happy camper..

 

[Sid]

Let's just all act like insiders and be cryptic as fuck about the next gen consoles.

 

[Can Crusher]

jesus christ

Yeah, some people just loose their minds with this console war bullshit.

LOL

Bah!

 

[cyberheater]

Let's hope the Nowgamer rumour is true. It would be funny if PS4 wasn't as powerful as the Xbox 720.

 

[lherre]

I'm laughing here not about the articles, more about the change of subjetc in few time from ps4 > x720 to x720 > ps4.

Serious press ...

 

[Kimawolf]

All these specs are foreign to me, but the next XBOX requiring an online connection to play games is such bullshit. I have a 10 MBPS satellite connection that works pretty well with the PS3 and WiiU, but for whatever reason the 360 will connect to my internet connection but "limit" me to strictly offline functions because (I'm guessing) satellite provides a slow ping. Group that with my connection going out in storms, and I can't see me buying the next Xbox anywhere nearlaunch if online required is true.

Yes I expect both Sony and MS will have that for their games and systems as a means to help control more of what goes on and to help control used games sales, not realizing it'll also have an effect on friends letting other friends borrow games. I also don't see the issue with these specs and fail to see why some people are getting so angry and bent out of shape. They aren't souped up PC specs no, everyone knew both consoles want to be media centers, just as their predecessors want to be today so none of it should "shock" anyone, but even with all the extra fluff that'll be added, eating up memory and resources they will still be superior to their predecessors.

 

[phosphor112]

Is ray tracing beyond the scope of what next gen consoles could offer?

Yes.

As if Sony's plans are different. Sony also wants to offer a media device, and take over the living room.

The only manufacturer that is only in it for the games, and more specifically the games that they want to create is Nintendo.

And since when is 3GB reserved for the OS something that is now a fact of life? We are talking about 3 times the amount of ram in comparison to the Orbis rumor. Are they going to offer 3 times the features? I don't know, but Durango delivering 3 times the features wouldn't be good business for Sony.

Sony has their media services that they can tie into the system that likely won't need so much ram. Music Unlimited, new PSN store with integrated Video services, PS Mobile, Minis. I'm sure (at least I hope) they will have features for Viaos, Xperias, and other Sony products can communicate with.

 

[thuway]

LOL

Dear Iherre,

Do you mind shedding any light?

 

[LastNac]

What am I reading?

Some kind of manifesto.

 

[Reiko]

I'm laughing here not about the articles, more about the change of subjetc in few time from ps4 > x720 to x720 > ps4.

Serious press ...

Expected as much. I know NDA, can't reveal anything...etc

 

[SparkTR]

The source of the NowGamer rumour has said some other important things in the past:

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/102720.html



http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/103483.html

I remember when I was twelve.

 

[Phonomezer]

100% honest, there was a time I believed we'd get super powerful consoles that were a lot larger than 2 TF. I was wrong though, and I've come to accept that. Go through my post history where I've argued tooth and nail for a 4 TF machine.

You'd best elect to enter some kind of police protection program...

Lets kill that troll.

 

[madmaxx350]

The source of the NowGamer rumour has said some other important things in the past:

http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/102720.html



http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/103483.html

lol

 

[dead monkey uk]

Do not worry my source has said Microsoft will unlock the other 33% system performance as DLC

 

[Kun Aguero]

The nowgamer piece gave me a good laugh, and the vg247 article seems to vindicate Thuway.

Do not worry my source has said Microsoft will unlock the other 33% system performance as DLC

Haha

 

[Hindle]

It means something for gamers...better looking exclusives. And we all know Sony will have a ton of exclusives.

They've had tons of exclusives this gen and its not made a difference in terms of sales.

 

[lherre]

Dear Iherre,

Do you mind shedding any light?

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

 

[jaosobno]

Is ray tracing beyond the scope of what next gen consoles could offer?

Look at this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9SH8xlgzoI

It took a single GTX680 to render this simple scene (some say the setup was quad SLI).

Now imagine rendering entire complex scene with dozens if not hundreds of objects in REALTIME. How many GTX680s would that take?

 

[Nirolak]

LOL

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

Well there goes these two rumors, though given the sources, that's not too surprising.

 

[cyberheater]

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

Fab. Good enough for me

 

[madmackem]

They've had tons of exclusives this gen and its not made a difference in terms of sales.

But as gamers its been great, having great console exclusives i bet helped them close the gap on 360 world wide alot quicker than just being a poor port machine.

 

[Reiko]

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

Other devs under NDA have also been beating the same drum. It's going to be a wash again.

 

[LuuKyK]

They've had tons of exclusives this gen and its not made a difference in terms of sales.

lol

 

[FrankT]

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

I can believe that.

The guy from yesterday praying for no PS360 situation next gen not feeling so hot.

 

[iamshadowlark]

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

So some are right too?

 

[Can Crusher]

Sony has their media services that they can tie into the system that likely won't need so much ram. Music Unlimited, new PSN store with integrated Video services, PS Mobile, Minis. I'm sure (at least I hope) they will have features for Viaos, Xperias, and other Sony products can communicate with.

I'm not saying you are way off base, I'm just saying that we can't take it as definite. We can always come up with theories, but that's it.

Why wouldn't they need as much ram? 3 times less ram. How could they use 3 times less the amount of ram than MS (software company) and not offer way less features?
It just doesn't seem reasonable.

 

[Uno Venova]

They've had tons of exclusives this gen and its not made a difference in terms of sales.

No that's probably what helped them sell their consoles.

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

Good.

 

[Derrick01]

They've had tons of exclusives this gen and its not made a difference in terms of sales.

I didn't know you were an investor. You have my sympathy.

 

[EscoBlades]

Do not worry my source has said Microsoft will unlock the other 33% system performance as DLC

 

[Hindle]

lol

What's sold the PS3 is the same that's sold the 360. FIFA, Cod, BF, Guitar Hero. Have a look at the best selling games for each of the consoles, there are few exclusives in there.

 

[Pistolero]

The Nowgamer rumor has me scratching my head. Let's put the extraterrestrial Durango specs for a moment, and have a laugh at a rather silly point the author made :
So, aware of Durango far better architecture, Sony decides to up the ante by increasing the RAM and upgrading the GPU...only to have Microsoft come back with a third SOC! In your face!

 

[phosphor112]

And we're giving this NowGamer rumor attention?

It needs to be removed from the OP and added to the banned site list. It's disgusting. We TRY to keep fanboyish bullshit out, but then post this shit.

 

[Phoenician_Viking]

Just announce them already. God.

 

[Reiko]

It needs to be removed from the OP and added to the banned site list. It's disgusting. We TRY to keep fanboyish bullshit out, but then post this shit.

Both articles read like a fanboy dream. Even if the VG article is mixed with some real stuff.

 

[amstradcpc]

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

But are you a developer or what?.

 

[Elginer]

Now it's confirmed, 24/7 just reading GAF.

Entertaining days ahead on GAF.

 

[iamshadowlark]

Just announce them already. God.

Not before may.

 

[omonimo]

What's sold the PS3 is the same that's sold the 360. FIFA, Cod, BF, Guitar Hero. Have a look at the best selling games for each of the consoles, there are few exclusives in there.

Stop to embarass yourself, really. Clearly you don't know what you are talking about, stop to do a useless console war, with all respect.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

But then look at what first party gets out of the ps3 and it kind of does show.

I'm looking really hard and I'm not seeing it. Both first parties have produced some incredible looking games, and some of the best looking games on both consoles are third party multiplatform titles.

Surely the more raw power the better.

No, raw power means very little outside of benchmarking. The amount you can put to good use in everday scenarios is what matters far more, but even that's never been a deciding factor for the majority of people. PS2 was by far the weakest console of its generation, yet it's the most popular home console of all time, cherished by core gamers and casuals alike.

 

[jaosobno]

Do not worry my source has said Microsoft will unlock the other 33% system performance as DLC

 

[Mr.Green]

I take it lherre is a dev?

 

[Reiko]

But are you a developer or what?.

The tag is there for a reason.

 

[Can Crusher]

In my opinion both machines will be very close, with some details in favor for each one, but I think we will have a ps360 situation again with 2 machines very close.

And some details in the articles are simply wrong.

Honestly, I don't think Ps3 and 360 are that close. There's a noticeable advantage when it comes to 1st Party, and I doubt that's due to the systems being very very close in power.

If the difference is 360 - Ps3, then there will be a clear difference when 1st party hits.