Not buying a console because an article states Durango > Orbis, when another article is stating the opposite? Okay. I guess you've already seen the games released by first party...
You buy both consoles and get nothing!
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VG247 Rumor: PS4 > Xbox 720; NowGamer Rumor: Xbox 720 > PS4
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You buy both consoles and get nothing!
Correct, when quantum mechanics are involved, all bets are off.
SirIgbyCeaser
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Next month at GDC all will be revealed.
phosphor112
Banned
They also don't realize that MS is going to try to offer a media device, they want to take over the living room. Why else would they need 3gigs for apps? Surely it's not kinect that is going to use all that ram.
Oh I don't know. Something funny is definitely going on. Something funny about Durango.
iamshadowlark
Banned
They had some mis-cues but their track record isn't all bs. See their Vita leaks. They never report rumors as fact though.
Because GAF said lol
shinobi602
Member
Is ray tracing beyond the scope of what next gen consoles could offer?
I really wish these rumors and speculation could be banned until something solid actually comes out. Whether it's by leak or official, but pointless speculation going on for years is maddening.
Personally I don't care if PS4 is 100000 times more powerful as long as it's powerful enough for Sony's big studios.
Personally I don't care if PS4 is 100000 times more powerful as long as it's powerful enough for Sony's big studios.
I think it's because it lines up with what other supposed insiders have been saying here. It's nothing very outlandish. The RAM stuff is a bit at odds with the flow of discussion, but who knows. Whether you want to take their reporting of similar info as corroboration or copying is at the reader's discretion...
The NowGamer stuff was discussed and discarded in other threads.
(Also, I think VG247's track record is slightly better than characterised. They clearly have contacts who've been willing to leak things in the past. I mean, for example, they got their hands on a picture of Vita's dev kit at one point, quite a while before the system was announced. Of course, getting some things right doesn't make everything an outlet reports right. But I think it's worth noting they have had legit scoops.)
Can Crusher
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As if Sony's plans are different. Sony also wants to offer a media device, and take over the living room.
The only manufacturer that is only in it for the games, and more specifically the games that they want to create is Nintendo.
And since when is 3GB reserved for the OS something that is now a fact of life? We are talking about 3 times the amount of ram in comparison to the Orbis rumor. Are they going to offer 3 times the features? I don't know, but Durango delivering 3 times the features wouldn't be good business for Sony.
You're reading the specs complete wrong. The power on the PS4 DDR5 ram is so much better than the DDR3 that the PS4 will atleast have a 50% raw power advantage over the xbox. Not to mention the power consumption will be far less because DDR5 is designed to have less power consumption but much more power output. The PS4 has more teraflops meaning it can render more graphic stuff and better FXAA. And more important, they invented blu ray so they'll be more familiar with how to read/write from/to the disc which will probably mean (estimation here) a speed boost of atleast 20%. In total that's almost 100% more power than the xbox.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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Why not? Raw power is not how you win the war. Mind you, theoretical peak numbers don't mean much in terms of real life moment to moment performance. PS3 is hugely ahead of the 360 when it comes to theoretical floating point performance, but that doesn't translate into a huge real life advantage.
Psychotext
Member
Really not even close to being that simple.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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Money well spend!
I think he was referring to PS3, Vita, and PS4. : \ His wording's bad though.
It means something for gamers...better looking exclusives. And we all know Sony will have a ton of exclusives.
That's really not the case.
Gemüsepizza
Member
The PS4 will probably much easier to develop for then the PS3. So this means, if the PS4 is really 50% more powerful then the Xbox 3, we would be actually able to see this in many games.
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
gofreak said:
Devkits will be in short supply at this point, and the platform holders will be very judicious in who gets one and who doesn't both for reasons of both supply and security.
For evaluation purposes third parties will be given "target boxes", basically PC's with rough ballpark specs (subject to change) and some limited documentation about specialized hardware function and capability.
Once a project gets greenlit, better hardware may become available (again, supply constraints apply) but the NDA's will get hard and heavy. Individual team members will be vetted and NDA'd, with management signing agreements that only "approved" indviduals may have access to the development environment (room/s where work is being done), its materials and documentation.
Its not uncommon for this latter sort of segregation to occur if a third party team is working on a valuable IP, let alone new hardware.
The last thing I'd add is that you should always take this sort of "insider" guff with a pinch of salt because... there's no reason why developer can not also be as blinkered a fanboy for a particular platform as anyone else. Over the years I've met plenty, because development, be it coder, artist, producer, whatever is just an occupation - not a badge of honour.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
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DarkoMaledictus
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Doesn't really matter... you know games will be so unoptmized for pc you will need twice that power just to run the games on pc... you know this is sadly true dude...
Plus seriously less ram is not a good idea for the ps4... whatever horsepower you have twice less the ram is looking bad!
JimmyRustler
Gold Member
By now I think the raw power will indeed make a big difference. No way MS will be able to pull enough new customers if the leap is not substantional enough - or the leap of the PS3 is far more substantional. The only thing Sony would need then is a killer app for launch.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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I think that whole post was a joke. At least I hope it was.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I can't wait for all this fodder to be behind us and look forward to the games.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
All these specs are foreign to me, but the next XBOX requiring an online connection to play games is such bullshit. I have a 10 MBPS satellite connection that works pretty well with the PS3 and WiiU, but for whatever reason the 360 will connect to my internet connection but "limit" me to strictly offline functions because (I'm guessing) satellite provides a slow ping. Group that with my connection going out in storms, and I can't see me buying the next Xbox anywhere nearlaunch if online required is true.
Phonomezer
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Is there any other source for this Xbox "Oban blitter"? wth...
That's the same guy who said he had confirmed info from an ultra high level source that PS4 and 720 would be at E3 2012.
"Game Journalism" at it's best.
The source of the NowGamer rumour has said some other important things in the past:
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/102720.html
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/103483.html
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/102720.html
Misterxmedia said:
http://misterxmedia.livejournal.com/103483.html
Misterxmedia said:will find out what my insider have to say about this. Because that sounds like a total bullshit. SDF spin off.
It is a face of this buthurted sonyboys fake:
His first post was about insider info. like "fake". (note: my 2 week ago post about 20nm 8000 next xbox gpu only today is being disscussed on negaf)
Then his second post was a link to this garbage. he was the first to introduce this link.
His third post was then he makes a new tread for this link
His other post were in favour of this topic - like he beleives in thouse info and so on.
That is how buthurted sonyboys work. A good example
Indeed, though it matters when these things launch as well.
The costs of these machines is extremely key. While I think unlikely....could one of these burn $5 billion hole like PS3? Who knows.
I wonder what the ballpark manufacture cost per unit will be for each versus retail out the gate.
Teraflops are fun for fanboy pissing contests but don't amount to much when it comes to the real world. As far as gaming is concerned anyway. There are several components to take into account: CPU, GPU, RAM, Storage... You could put a 16 gazillion teraflops CPU in your computer and the graphics card would still be the bottle neck...
Just take this generation. While the PS3 has the theoretical processing power advantage, some would argue that most of the multiplatform games run better on 360. Then others would argue that there is no way in hell the 360 could run Uncharted...
My take: I don't give a flying fuck. Just take my money. My body is ready for all your god damn toys.
Just take this generation. While the PS3 has the theoretical processing power advantage, some would argue that most of the multiplatform games run better on 360. Then others would argue that there is no way in hell the 360 could run Uncharted...
My take: I don't give a flying fuck. Just take my money. My body is ready for all your god damn toys.
Phonomezer
Banned
Good grief, LOL.
This is all true. But it doesn't make it unlikely that a media outlet would come across information about two systems. Everything they've said - well, nearly - has been wafting around to one or other degree already.
However, who knows if they're independently corroborating with their own contacts are just acting as a repeater for what's already been put out into the public domain.
Absolutely true. I think it has already happened to some extent. There's much more opinion involved in some of the less quantifiable statements that are made around this kind of time.
And we're giving this NowGamer rumor attention?
But then look at what first party gets out of the ps3 and it kind of does show. Surely the more raw power the better. I really cant see it being this big a gap, i mean come on 50% difference raw power wise would mean ps4 would be able in first party hands to blow away 720. I cant see microsoft being out done to that extent.