metalslimer
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Wouldn't Orbis be Late Registration because at least that's somewhat close to College Dropout while Graduation begins the slide downward.
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SneakyStephan
Banned
It should be:
PC: SSAA
(there is nothing in between equivalent to MSAA)
Orbis: SMAA
Durango : edge detect or no AA
Wii U : sweet FX FXAA.
Since edge detect or no AA is significantly much better than having FXAA laying a steaming blur turd on your entire screen. And (edit;,typo SweetFX) does the same (steaming turd) for your colors.
Can Crusher
Banned
Until we know what these GPUs are, what architecture are they based on, how modified they are, we won't see an answer to that.
I'm sure both MS and Sony will shoot for efficiency too, but it's hard to rate each attempt right now.
shinobi602
Member
Lmao.
I remember when everyone here was laughing at Crytek when they said they wanted 8gb ram, and saying we probably wouldn't get more than 2Gb ram for next gen consoles, and now that we're getting fucking 4-8GB, everyone is moaning.
Dafuq people.
I remember when everyone here was laughing at Crytek when they said they wanted 8gb ram, and saying we probably wouldn't get more than 2Gb ram for next gen consoles, and now that we're getting fucking 4-8GB, everyone is moaning.
Dafuq people.
Thank you.
So, do you buy this whole thing about MS designing their GPU to gain parity with a pitcairn equivalent? Would it be idiotic of Sony not maximise efficiency for their GPU as well given it's a closed box environment that has to last quite a long while? I mean why invest more to get less?
I like you
Unfortunately for us, Post-Process AA is going to continue to be quite common on the console side, though hopefully with slightly better algorithms than what many have been using.
Baconsammy
Banned
Yes, keep shitting this in every single thread over and over. You'll last long.
Now they need 8 gigs GDDR5 or no sale.
Can Crusher
Banned
PC - Brain
Orbis - Vagina
Durango - Penis
Wii U - Anus
Orbis - Vagina
Durango - Penis
Wii U - Anus
Pagusas
Elden Member
All I want to really contribute to this thread is: I'm decently happy with the specs and VERY glad MS didn't go the wii/wii U route with being super cheap/xbox 1.5 on us. At the end of the day we can all wish for more, but we could have gotten a lot worse too. I think it looks pretty good compared to what we all feared would happen thanks to the Wii's success.
Seriously FXAA has come a long way and its looking better and better. I wish we'd get Txaa though (not happening), AC3 looks sooooo good with it on.
Seriously FXAA has come a long way and its looking better and better. I wish we'd get Txaa though (not happening), AC3 looks sooooo good with it on.
At least part of the custom hardware is designed to take specific GPU associated tasks off the shoulders of that element, freeing up more raw GPU resources for stuff it's better at. I believe, anyway. I could be wrong. Again, wish I was a software engineer.
I don't think it's likely that Durango's 2013 AMD GPU FLOPs are somehow 66% more efficient than Orbis' 2013 AMD GPU FLOPs, no.
BoboBrazil
Member
Eh, this doesn't sound that impressive to me. I'll just get a PS4. Sony never lets me down as a gamer. I never really cared for Halo or Gears of War, so MS doesn't have anything to offer me, especially when they are trying to force Kinect on everyone. I can see where their interests will be next go around.
I don't know if the Wii U is as good as Coldest Winter, yet.
Death Dealer
Member
The funny thing is everyone told those people it won't happen because console ram isn't the same as cheap PC ram. Except that turned out to not be the case....
The Orbis is better than everything then.
LightOfTruth
Member
Perfect.
Makes sense. If the Durango is 'perfect', then we have:
MBDTF = CD = Durango
LR = Orbis
808s = WiiU (lol)
AranhaHunter
Banned
I want a comparison in terms of MMA fighters
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
Lol gow: betrayal. I hope everyone knows that's a cell phone game.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Actually this is what people were expecting.
Everyone poopooed the idea of 6-8GB of VRAM (GDDR) because of cost. Apparently, so did the console makers. 2-4GB of VRAM was always the expectation. The 720's hybrid shit is out of left field and we'll have to see what their DDR3 direction means for the games.
PapaJustify
Member
That doesn't even make sense. There is something wrong with that order, too.
The problem I have with this idea is that it seems so ... regressive in terms of GPU architecure.
The last decade or so of GPU development has been all about taking dedicated circuitry and replacing it with more flexible, programmable hardware. This seems to be the exact opposite approach.
The only way they can do so is by having major architectural advances. So unless MS have some 2014 'secret sauce', say from the 9000 series, and Sony are on 7000 gpus branded as 8000 parts, they can't bridge the gap, can they?
edit: this thread is so hard to read now. lol.
GDDR5 and a more powerful GPU produce more heat
ScepticMatt
Member
I hope we get TXAA 4x or equivalent as standard next gen
Because we were all talking about faster memory (such as GDDR5).
Consoles usually had faster memory than what we were all using as general purpose memory in our PCs.
Up until not too long ago, Sony still had 2GB GDDR5 in their target spec sheets.
Yes yes, provisionally maintaining that if densities increase or whatever they'll do more.
There was a lot of internal outcry at that I'm sure, but if you look at the motherboard complexity that 4GB of GDDR5 would introduce, you'll see why that was the case.
That, and the bean counters don't like it much.
As far as MS goes, they're using 8GB of DDR3, which really isn't anything special in of itself. They have 32mb of ESRam on the GPU to mitigate the fact the memory and bandwidth of DDR3 is generally a lot slower than GDDR5.
Hope that helps explain why there used to be a "lol 8gb" train more than a year ago.
Read the post I was responding to.
Terbinator
Member
PC: Sasha?
SneakyStephan
Banned
Pagusas
Elden Member
we wont. TXAA is an nvidia thing.
LightOfTruth
Member
Horse Armour
Member
Huh? RAM is far from the only important metric, GPU FLOPS and CPU power are both equally important and they're both fairly disappointing (I'm including PS4 here as well). Fair enough if we were just rating the systems on their RAM then they would both be impressive but taken on their whole, they fall far short of where they should be considering the tech PS3 and 360 had.
specialguy
Banned
It seems one thing Durango and Orbis fanboys agree on: Lets be mean to Wii U.
But lets be honest, Wii U deserves it.
But lets be honest, Wii U deserves it.
BloodMoney
Banned
Exactly. Give me games, the hell with the rest.
That would be great.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
No, it doesn't.
PsihoPerihelion
Member
Orbis = Pulp Fiction
Durango = Reservoir Dogs
Wii U = Death Proof
Durango = Reservoir Dogs
Wii U = Death Proof
Sounds like the Amiga in design.
True. I'm just looking at the block diagram and how much silicon Microsoft is dedicating to that and the memory movers (and the audio DSP), all of which is custom to the system and expensive, and wondering why that, instead of more space dedicated to more GPU resources. They're telling developers it brings a number of advantages and frees them up to do "things," which I don't understand in an appreciable way. They spend a lot of time in their documentation talking about them.