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[antonz]

Growth of the Human Race is shrinking. Yes its still growing but its pace is on the decline.

Ability to feed the human race is only an issue because of greed. The planet could easily sustain the population

 

[Admiral Bone to Pick]

Who are you saving those resources for then?

"Not letting people live such long lifespans" actually is an inhuman thing to say. Limiting population growth is one thing, suggesting earlier-than-necessary death is something completely different.

Honestly, I was just doing a really shitty devil's advocate. Limiting population growth is an admirable goal, but only under the premise that it improves life for those already alive. Saying that humans are a plague that need to be limited is a pretty awful claim.

 

[Dan]

It's true, but everything about our economy is based in growth. Countries are falling apart as population growth slows. We have utterly no idea how to function as a civilization if we're not growing in size.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Our biggest fault is that we think so highly of ourselves. The world doesn't need us.

But while we're here we might as well try our hardest to exist. Fuck what the world needs.

 

[Blader]

Our biggest fault is that we think so highly of ourselves. The world doesn't need us.

What's wrong with thinking highly of ourselves? It's pretty fucking special that we exist at all, the way that we do.

 

[Lamel]

Humans are the single worst thing that has happened to our planet. We have raped the Earth, fact.

On the other hand, we are also the single greatest thing to come out of the earth.

 

[Bombadil]

He doesn't want to kill all humans. He just wants to stop overpopulation, pollution, destruction of tons of species and habitats, etc.

That will all happen without his denigration of humanity.

He wasn't responsible for the creation of plants that pollute the air, and he won't be responsible for the creation of plants that don't.

 

[A.E Suggs]

The earth does not need us. Other species can, in millions of years, evolve to the point of being intelligent and taking dominion over the renewed earth.

Not that I suggest we off ourselves.

We will, though.

I wasn't actually serious, but I always hear the bolded and I not agree. I mean who's decision is it to make that claim?

 

[jett]

What's wrong with thinking highly of ourselves? It's pretty fucking special that we exist at all, the way that we do.

 

[Uchip]

On the other hand, we are also the single greatest thing to come out of the earth.

but still most likely insignificant compared to other life out there

What's wrong with thinking highly of ourselves? It's pretty fucking special that we exist at all, the way that we do.

special in what way?

 

[FairyD]

Then what, pray tell, does the world need?

Plastic, that's what it wants and need.

 

[lastplayed]

The earth does not need us. Other species can, in millions of years, evolve to the point of being intelligent and taking dominion over the renewed earth.

Not that I suggest we off ourselves.

We will, though.

The earth doesn't need anything. It's just a ball of rock that happened to be in the right place. The universe created us after all, it's not our fault!

 

[Randolph Freelander]

I wasn't actually serious, but I always hear the bolded and I not agree. I mean who's decision is it to make that claim?

We are a blip on the earth's timeline. It existed for 4.7 billion years before we got here, and it will exist for just as long after we are gone, until the expansion of the sun swallows it. It was fine without us before, and it will be after. It's not a claim that needs to be earned, it is simply reality.

 

[Tesseract]

fuck it. not my best writing, that.

 

[Blair]

I'm doing my bit lol!

 

[jett]

Then what, pray tell, does the world need?

I suppose species that aren't actively destroying an ecosystem that took nature billions of years to build. The world could need some of that.

 

[Mumei]

I'll wait until it's narrated by Oprah or Alec Baldwin to believe it.

Poor Sigourney Weaver. She isn't even remembered as a bad replacement for Attenborough.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Plastic, that's what it wants and need.

Best and only answer I have seen so far.

EDIT: Strike that.

I suppose species that aren't actively destroying an ecosystem that took nature billions of years to build. The world could need some of that.

No, that's what a supposedly balanced ecosystem needs to contain life, earth doesn't need life.

Earth needs a way out of the Sun's way when it becomes a red giant.

 

[Lamel]

The earth doesn't need anything. It's just a ball of rock that happened to be in the right place. The universe created us after all, it's not our fault!

Thank you.

Animals deplete resources as well, and once they are out of them, they die off (carrying capacity). The earth can sustain many, many more humans; once it can't, we will start to die out, and balance will restore.

Everyone needs to shut the fuck up about "the earth doesn't need us." You don't know what the earth needs, if anything at all.

That being said, we do need to be more efficient as a species.

I suppose species that aren't actively destroying an ecosystem that took nature billions of years to build. The world could need some of that.

Humans are part of the ecosystem the earth has "built."

 

[Sp3eD]

Why should I take my advice from somebody that can't put their glasses on right.

 

[Loofy]

Nature documentaries were getting boring anyways.

 

[A.E Suggs]

We are a blip on the earth's timeline. It existed for 4.7 billion years before we got here, and it will exist for just as long after we are gone, until the expansion of the sun swallows it.

How do you figure we'll be gone before that happens. Don't get me wrong I see what your trying to get it, but I still say who decision is that to make about what the earth needs, humans right?

EDIT: I seem to have derailed the topic, sorry I ever brought it up guys.

 

[JollyWolf]

I suppose species that aren't actively destroying an ecosystem that took nature billions of years to build. The world could need some of that.

It didn't take the Earth billions of years to create our current ecosystem. Asteroids have destroyed more ecosystems on Earth then humans can ever hope to do, and yet it manages to come back every time. Pretty damn arrogant to think we humans can do far worse than asteroids.

 

[bonercop]

I suppose species that aren't actively destroying an ecosystem that took nature billions of years to build. The world could need some of that.

"Nature" doesn't have a will of it's own and the idea that sustainability is desirable or that life is precious are 100% human constructs.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Thank you.

Animals deplete resources as well, and once they are out of them, they die off (carrying capacity). The earth can sustain many, many more humans; once it can't, we will start to die out, and balance will restore.

Everyone needs to shut the fuck up about "the earth doesn't need us." You don't know what the earth needs, if anything at all.

That being said, we do need to be more efficient as a species.

The point is that we are irrelevant. We will eventually be dead and gone, and the earth will live on. Neither the earth nor the universe will miss us.

 

[Bodacious]

He should probably kill himself to help stop this.

That's for the little people.

 

[Lamel]

The point is that we are irrelevant. We will eventually be dead and gone, and the earth will live on. Neither the earth nor the universe will miss us.

Deep. What does that have to do with the topic at hand?

 

[JollyWolf]

The point is that we are irrelevant. We will eventually be dead and gone, and the earth will live on. Neither the earth nor the universe will miss us.

Even the Earth and Universe will die. I fail to see your point.

 

[adamsappel]

Ever seen Logan's Run?

Renew!

 

[Tesseract]

life came to be as fast as it can after a period of bombardment and cooling. hundreds of millions, not billions.

 

[Riggs]

Agreed ....

Why should I take my advice from somebody that can't put their glasses on right.

You have numbers in your name.






jk I love you.

 

[ZaCH3000]

Maybe nature wanted us to pillage the planet for all of its resources, so we can move to a new planet and continue the species. This is going to be an interesting century indeed.

 

[lastplayed]

It didn't take the Earth billions of years to create our current ecosystem. Asteroids have destroyed more ecosystems on Earth then humans can ever hope to do, and yet it manages to come back every time. Pretty damn arrogant to think we humans can do far worse than asteroids.

Not to mention the earth is built from smashed stars and planets. The universe is the ultimate recycling machine.

 

[bonercop]

The point is that we are irrelevant. We will eventually be dead and gone, and the earth will live on. Neither the earth nor the universe will miss us.

The concept of 'irrelevance' is a human construct. It doesn't exist without humans.

 

[JollyWolf]

I also love people who think we are not part of nature. We are not some outside force. Everything we are and everything we do is part of nature. We don't work outside the natural laws.

 

[Antiwhippy]

The point is that we are irrelevant. We will eventually be dead and gone, and the earth will live on. Neither the earth nor the universe will miss us.

So why should we care if the earth and universe will miss us as we try to live out to the end?

 

[demosthenes]

Someone tell him that the human population by 2200 is < 3,000,000,000. I'm sure that will make h im happy.

 

[A.E Suggs]

Ever seen Logan's Run?

No, but just because you mentioned it I will have a look at it.

 

[Randolph Freelander]

Even the Earth and Universe will die. I fail to see your point.

Indeed they will, further proving how meaningless we are. But we will be gone sooner, and the earth will be better for it. And then it, too, will die.

 

[BobLoblaw]

We're a plague to each other also. Just turn on the tv and look at all the murders, rapes, wars, torture, thievery, etc. that we perpetuate on one another every single day.

 

[MadOdorMachine]

I think he's wrong. We could be exploring space and colonizing other planets like Mars. I'm not saying we shouldn't take care of the Earth, but I disagree with people like him.

 

[Blader]

special in what way?

How many sentient species exist in the known universe?

 

[JollyWolf]

Indeed they will, further proving how meaningless we are. But we will be gone sooner, and the earth will be better for it. And then it, too, will die.

Why would it be better off for it? If everything is meaningless, then there is no good or bad, their just is.

 

[ConfusingJazz]

Indeed they will, further proving how meaningless we are. But we will be gone sooner, and the earth will be better for it. And then it, too, will die.

Why will Earth be better?

 

[Randolph Freelander]

How many sentient species exist in the known universe?

Other than the reapers?

 

[demosthenes]

Indeed they will, further proving how meaningless we are. But we will be gone sooner, and the earth will be better for it. And then it, too, will die.

Who decides what is better for Earth. How is it determined?

 

[Admiral Bone to Pick]

We're a plague to each other also. Just turn on the tv and look at all the murders, rapes, wars, torture, thievery, etc. that we perpetuate on one another every single day.

There's also plenty of birth, life, acts of charity and kindness, etc.

Seriously is this the Depression thread 2.0? I can't imagine anyone who hates humanity not also hating themselves.

 

[Synth_floyd]

So I hope that Dr. Attenborough is the first to volunteer to kill himself.

 

[slit]

Indeed they will, further proving how meaningless we are. But we will be gone sooner, and the earth will be better for it. And then it, too, will die.

So then your point is everything is meaningless?


Cool, let's party!

 

[Candeldandel]

Depressing, but ... honest. Really, really depressing.

“I’m not sure there’s any need for a new Attenborough,” he said.

I'm not sure this is the case, however... Sure, we might need less of an explanation, but there's still value in having a connect with another human about something that is not human. With that, he does an amazing job. I would most definitely want another Attenborough-esq narrator for that reason.