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VGLeaks Durango specs: x64 8-core CPU @1.6GHz, 8GB DDR3 + 32MB ESRAM, 50GB 6x BD...
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Kinect 2 + Oculus Rift... imagine the possibilities
Gordon0Freeman
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Uh what!?
shinra-bansho
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Are you saying his calculations are wrong, the rumors about RAM amounts and speeds are wrong or the amount the OS occupies is wrong?
Bungie's new game, its a cross generation title.
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Nah, I was definitely not a Sony fan (nor the Xbox fan at that point), and even I thought PS3 would wipe the floor with the 360. Pretty much everyone did. It was only after the developers started sharing more of their experiences with the two systems that it became clear they were closer in terms of performance than it was initially thought.
Gordon0Freeman
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Course I know! Where did you read this though? Been waiting for news on it forever!
This lines up with my experience too, it's partly why I even bought a PS3 in the first place.
Here you go (final paragraph)
Considering how open Bungie is about it now a reveal soon is inevitable.
I remember some rumour doing the rounds that Destiny was going to be a timed exclusive. So maybe...
(However, is it just me that is starting to get the impression that Polygon is turning into an extension of MS's PR department?)
Well it only makes sense that MS hand them a few exclusives from time to time.
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Yes, they're wrong because they don't take eSRAM and data movers into account at all. In fact, until we know how the data movers operate, it's hard to tell anything, even if rumors turn out to be true. One thing to keep in mind, though - just because three eights of the RAM capacity might be reserved for non-gaming applications, that doesn't necessarily mean that three eights of the bandwidth will also be unavailable to games. The reserved bandwidth will most likely be much lower, if not entirely dynamically allocated.
You don't understand the specs do you?
On the GPU side it looks good for the Wii U, but on the memory and CPU side porting will likely cause problems.
Karak
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Very interesting. Thanks for the leak. One of the main games I am interested in.
googleplex
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No one is looking down on on the 6-6.5 of ram that the NextBox will dedicate to games! Some (including myself) think that the 3.5 on faster ram will be better put to use by the PS4.
Both machines are looking very good at the moment.
thehypocrite
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A lot of people are, Bungie's been working on this thing for a LONG time and its hitting a lot of platforms, current and next gen.
Just wonder if the 24th will be the day Microsoft comments on the new system.
Anyway, seems to back up everything we've heard before from reliable sources. I wonder if its also true that 5GB and 6 CPU cores will be usable by games?, even so it would be plenty. This isn't like the crazy expensive machines we saw last gen, but its still easily enough to produce great looking games for the next few years (and good looking games for the next several years).
Again though I find myself wondering why on earth they're using SRAM for the 32MB pool of memory on the GPU. Why would you need such low latency there? Surely 64MB of eDRAM would have been better for a GPU's purposes, and also cheaper.
Again though I find myself wondering why on earth they're using SRAM for the 32MB pool of memory on the GPU. Why would you need such low latency there? Surely 64MB of eDRAM would have been better for a GPU's purposes, and also cheaper.
Melchiah
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And the same on Sony's side.
- You could say the same about Sony; no more exotic hardware that's hard to work with, and they've provided better help for devs than in the past. And I wouldn't say Microsoft handled the RROD fiasco brilliantly, as it was caused solely by their rush to launch; corporate gain over customer satisfaction.
- I think the motion control trend has already passed.
- The PlayStation brand has a very reliable userbase as well, as evidenced by the sales (especially in Europe) catching up with those of the 360 even after all the mistakes, the price difference, the lack of major titles during the first years, and 1-1½ year later launch in different regions.
- Sony has more 1st party studios than ever before working on next gen content. They're probably going to expand the PS+ service, and continue releasing a wide variety of titles that cater every genre (excluding RPG), whereas Microsoft's exclusives have been mostly catering the action hungry younger male players.
- Three generations of building the brand and fanbase has shown what can be achieved even against all the odds.
Microsoft has three major exclusive franchises (Halo, Forza, Gears), of which one isn't even made by a 1st party studio. Their efforts have so far been mainly focused on buying 3rd party (timed) exclusives. It's up in the air at the moment will that change in the future. They have acquired some new studios, which are making new games for X3, but it's uncertain whether any of those will be a success on the scale of the three or not.
They want to think that people are still willing to pay a premium for playing online, and accessing services like Netflix, without getting anything concrete (like free games) in return. Will that change? Will they make online play free, and if not, will people still be willing to pay for it, or will they copy PS+ and offer some free games in return?
Yep there were always going to be problems, the only question was how many and would they be insurmountable. For memory and CPU it really depends if its true or not that 5GB and 6 cores are available for games and also if Nintendo do decide to release some more of that OS RAM. Porting down from 5GB to 1.5GB isn't easy, but porting down from say 7GB to 1GB would probably be almost impossible at times.
Polygon is to fair and balanced gaming news, as Fox is for current affairs. Both are just mouth pieces for their respective overloads (MS and GOP).
All you do is post nonsense every day on GAF. I'm just watching you and waiting...
I trust Eurogamer the most, to be honest. Especially eversince they said they'll decline to go to any review events or have expenses paid for them to go the events.
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Can somebody explain how Polygon looks like it's run by MS PR?
I'm looking at the main page right now...I don't even see a single MS focused article here. We got news from all over the place.
From whatever little I know, the people who work there seem pretty level headed too.
So unless people have examples of how Polygon looks like an extension of MS PR, I would suggest them drop that childish bullshit.
Destiny is an Activision game folks, wake up.
I'm looking at the main page right now...I don't even see a single MS focused article here. We got news from all over the place.
From whatever little I know, the people who work there seem pretty level headed too.
So unless people have examples of how Polygon looks like an extension of MS PR, I would suggest them drop that childish bullshit.
Destiny is an Activision game folks, wake up.
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Is CNN supposed to be good again?
thehypocrite
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IGN.
I don't like that they got all that money from MS to make the documentary but to be fair the site itself doesn't seem biased towards MS itself. They gave a pretty terrible score to Forza Horizon in my eyes.
Karak
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That is something I can deal with.
Compared to Fox? Uhm...ya I think so. But maybe not
Polygon is pretty nice but it does seem like MS hands them exclusives which isn't really a bad thing at all.
Also Destiny is a time MS exclusive according to the court documents.
TheGreyHulk
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well.. the CPU on the ps360 is an in order cpu. jaguar is obviously capable of out of order execution. also, it's more than likely that the single thread performance is greater than the single thread performance you can get on the 360's CPU. it's not like the single thread performance on the current consoles are great cuz they're not.
M$ and Sony know what they're doing. Even if jaguar is the replacement, it's obviously an acceptable replacement to them.
1.6ghz in one architecture is not comparible to 3.2ghz on a complete different architecture.
speed means nothing in today's world.
yup, have to respect that
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The doesn't even make sense how that will work. The OS isn't drawing the bandwidth unless its being used and even then the bandwidth will be tiny in comparison to the gaming bandwidth. And I love the 3.2GB of data per frame. Thats definitely how it works.(not at all)
Not Polygon as a whole just their "making a new website" documentary they did. Polygon is part of the group that runs The Verge as well.
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Actually people are saying it isn't anymore. I don't know if it is or isn't, maybe it's on PS3 but not PS4 who knows.
Either way, it's an Activision game. And Polygon is owned by Vox Media.
They spent the 750.000$ on the documentary? Those 13 episodes? Impossible.
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Even MSNBC.com wasn't biased towards MS, I don't know why an independent website would be, documentary from their pocket or not.
thehypocrite
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Here you go:
Press Reset: The Story of Polygon - financed by Microsoft for $750,000
If you don't see reasons why people might think that, I have a bridge to sell you.
Based on what. The contract was pretty clear and there was certainly a reason why it was in there in the first place.
Disc seek times will limit you way before RAM if you need 700mb or more per frame.
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I still don't see the 750.000$ line. I don't see how it's possible if it's for the documentary. The site doesn't present itself as such in anyway.
And Forza Horizon got a 6, when it has a metacritic of 8.5. But try to sell me that bridge a little more.
thehypocrite
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Nah, It's a GAF exclusive so it's part of the contents of the thread.
They didn't, the rest was bribe money, like an investment in good will for PR. Pocket change for MSFT.
ChimpBottle
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Moving around the living room essentially blindfolded. .. hmm
Karak
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Ok that made me lol.