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[kpjolee]

Has the amount of RAM been upgraded? Was it originally 4GB? Now 8GB?

I would love that lol. And Sony will go down in a grand fashion in couple of years.
8GB of DDR3 however..
Durango and Orbis would be like twins separated from birth.

 

[Respawn]

VG Leaks teasing us

http://www.vgleaks.com/what-do-you-expect-about-orbis-hardware-poll-inside/

Comments section:



And the answer:

Spoiler

Is Mr. X from VG Leaks?

Oh my my my

 

[RoboPlato]

if it was originally 4GB of GDDR5 and they decided to upgrade to 4GB DDR3 + 4GB GDDR5, would devs be pissed at them all over again for splitting the pool?

That wouldn't be bad from a game developers' point of view but it would add a lot of complexity, cost, and engineering to implement on the hardware developer side.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

The only component I'd care to discuss with all these leaks and "rumors" would be the HDD size. Even though the cloud future is very much upon us, I would like to be able to upgrade my HDD to a larger size. As long as Sony keeps that ability in the next version, I'll be happy.

 

[AgentP]

Has the amount of RAM been upgraded? Was it originally 4GB? Now 8GB?

Read the OT? Devkit, not console specs.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

A touch pad instead of a touch screen would be a big disappointment and a huge waste of space.

 

[imjust1n]

This is just dev kits people calm down.

Developers need 2x Ethernet jacks maybe?

maybe they need more vram who knows that is why this is called a "rumor"

When the system launches THEN lets complain about specs lol : )

 

[Valnen]

VERY happy it will possibly support the PS3 controllers I already own. Also very happy with multiple users being able to login on the same system.

I hope they do include a headphone jack too.

No mention of BC...

Sorry guys, this is wrong .

Ugh nooo, there was some good news in there.

 

[Respawn]

A touch pad instead of a touch screen would be a big disappointment and a huge waste of space.

Good thing you weren't on those dev meetings eh engineer James?

 

[R10Neymarfan]

Good thing you weren't on those dev meetings eh engineer James?

There is no point really. Just add vita and tablet integration and the touch pad controller is done without pissing off the core base

 

[bobbytkc]

There is no point really. Just add vita and tablet integration and the touch pad controller is done without pissing off the core base

I can imagine it being used for games that require a mouse cursor...

Yea, I can't think of any other for it. A touch screen is better, but I imagine the point is to cut down the cost of a controller.

 

[Boost]

I dont care about a devkit, give me the ORBIS!

 

[bobbytkc]

I dont care about a devkit, give me the ORBIS!

vgleaks is supposed to have news tomorrow.

Just one more day...

 

[Duxxy3]

Am i the only person more interested in the controller than the specs?

 

[pharmboy044]

Am i the only person more interested in the controller than the specs?

My number one Interest is the actual UI and then the controller then the actual specs of the hardware.

 

[Draper]

vgleaks is supposed to have news tomorrow.

Just one more day...

I am excite bike.

 

[Racer30]

Sorry guys, this is wrong .

Care to tell me why I should trust you?

Let me guess, you have a friend who knows a friend with a brother who works at amd?

 

[Boss Man]

VG Leaks teasing us

http://www.vgleaks.com/what-do-you-expect-about-orbis-hardware-poll-inside/

Comments section:



And the answer:

Spoiler

Is Mr. X from VG Leaks?

Those assholes...

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Care to tell me why I should trust you?

Let me guess, you have a friend who knows a friend with a brother who works at amd?

He has been accurate on every rumor he has posted

 

[i-Lo]

A touch pad instead of a touch screen would be a big disappointment and a huge waste of space.

If it had a WiiU like dual screen it would sap processing power from the main console. Although I do not how the controller will look like and what ancillary features it may have but I wish it not to be parasitic in nature.

 

[Taiser]

one RAM pool with 4 GB GDDR5...

Spoiler

plus 512MB XDR2 for the special compute unit thingy

.. seams more reasonable.

 

[Ozzykamikaze]

Care to tell me why I should trust you?

Let me guess, you have a friend who knows a friend with a brother who works at amd?

Apparently he has ALL of the information. He just doesn't give any of it out. But he also likes to remind you that he has it, in case you forget.

Nobody cares what you know, if you're never going to share it.

 

[RoboPlato]

Apparently he has ALL of the information. He just doesn't give any of it out. But he also likes to remind you that he has it, in case you forget.

Nobody cares what you know, if you're never going to share it.

He's at least been spot on in all of his claims and will give real numbers instead of just saying to wait for some special hardware feature that no one can comprehend.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Apparently he has ALL of the information. He just doesn't give any of it out. But he also likes to remind you that he has it, in case you forget.

Nobody cares what you know, if you're never going to share it.

He has given a lot of numbers that we couldn't have verified otherwise. He is only going to post stuff he can be pretty confident in.

 

[Ozzykamikaze]

He is only going to post stuff he can be pretty confident in.

Why? Nobody is going to hold it against him if he's wrong. He's not bound to anyone or anything, at least according to previous posts. Being teased gets old after a bit.

 

[Cartman86]

The "new account" system already works on PS3, doesnt it? I'm pretty sure that it is possible to have dual PSN login on Resistance 2 coop. I'm not sure if the 2nd player can earn trophies however, but i think dual PSN login should work at least.

Little Big Planet supports it as well. Most games don't though. Presumably it will just work (or be forced to work) with every game now like on the 360.

 

[R10Neymarfan]

Is Sony still looking into that 35nm cell processor? If so that's probably what they'll use in the PS4 or at least PS3 4000

 

[phosphor112]

Is Sony still looking into that 35nm cell processor? If so that's probably what they'll use in the PS4 or at least PS3 4000

If they are doing BC. It won't be cell. It'll be this.
http://www.freepatentsonline.com/20100312969.pdf

 

[oversitting]

Is Sony still looking into that 35nm cell processor? If so that's probably what they'll use in the PS4 or at least PS3 4000

no point any more. cell is dead.

 

[MooseKing]

better.

but also a whole lot more power sucking and hot. imo you really wouldn't want one in a console.

its fairly reasonable that bd might be in a dev kit and jag in final. same vendor, probably vaguely similar architecture and all that. sony might have decided to go with jag more recently. 4 bd cores would run 8 threads, emulating a 8 core cpu. etc etc.

I wouldn't want AMD period. Shit is garbage compared to whats on the market.

I have no idea why they go AMD and not try to work something out with Intel.

 

[Brad Grenz]

Presumably because Intel would not be interested in integrating an AMD GPU onto the same die with one of their CPUs.

 

[yn-neko hates a cat]

Why

four cpu sockets sounds like a server motherboard and those generally start with two Ethernet ports

 

[Lord Error]

no point any more. cell is dead.

Point would of course be to provide PS3 compatibility in PS4, as 8 Jaguar cores have no hope in hell of ever emulating it. It would be interesting if that compute module ends up being a cell in disguise, especially if it would work in PS4 mode as a co-processor as well.

 

[thuway]

Funny how the "insiders" stayed away from this thread so far with the information...

If these specs are true, Sony has not been able to hit the mark, or are reconsidering their stance on "final hardware". The last I heard, in September, the RAM ceiling was raised to 4 GB UMA 192 GB/S. If this holds weight than we have to modify our expectations. Final silicon should ship this month, so we should by that time have a good idea what Sony is gunning for. Once again, its all about the RAM.

 

[Reiko]

If these specs are true, Sony has not been able to hit the mark, or are reconsidering their stance on "final hardware". The last I heard, in September, the RAM ceiling was raised to 4 GB UMA 192 GB/S. If this holds weight than we have to modify our expectations. Final silicon should ship this month, so we should by that time have a good idea what Sony is gunning for. Once again, its all about the RAM.

That's why I hate rumored leaks. Specs can go up or down. I want them to go up.

 

[flipswitch]

If Sony is offering backwards compatibility through hardware on PS4, why did they acquire gaikai?

 

[thuway]

Why? Nobody is going to hold it against him if he's wrong. He's not bound to anyone or anything, at least according to previous posts. Being teased gets old after a bit.

I don't think you realize how fluid things are. Sony is wrestling with the amount of RAM they want to put into the machine. They have given developers target specs they are trying to nail. This devkit, sounds like just that, a devkit. It gives us little information on what we should expect out of the final machine.

I've said this before, but final silicon is expected to ship soon, and from that, we will have a semblance of an idea what to expect.

I am just as impatient as the rest of you. VGleaks, hurry your ass up.

 

[AgentChris]

If Sony is offering backwards compatability through hardware on PS4, why did they acquire gaikai?

Streaming all PS games/demos on Sony products.

 

[iceatcs]

no point any more. cell is dead.

Really? What is the CPU in new ps3 slim?

 

[mrklaw]

This is what happens when there's such an obsession with input gimmicks in this industry. Sony half-assed the sixaxis but that didn't harm anyone in the end. Now they're going all in and we're going to get rear-touch pad v.2. I just hope this time they don't take away the second set of shoulder buttons.

I hope they beef up motion so we get the same gyro etc as vita. Then sixaxis (nine axis?) would be useful for games. Any news on that?

 

[mrklaw]

I don't think you realize how fluid things are. Sony is wrestling with the amount of RAM they want to put into the machine. They have given developers target specs they are trying to nail. This devkit, sounds like just that, a devkit. It gives us little information on what we should expect out of the final machine.

I've said this before, but final silicon is expected to ship soon, and from that, we will have a semblance of an idea what to expect.

I am just as impatient as the rest of you. VGleaks, hurry your ass up.

I thougt final silicon wasn't expected until later in the year?

 

[specialguy]

I don't think you realize how fluid things are. Sony is wrestling with the amount of RAM they want to put into the machine. They have given developers target specs they are trying to nail. This devkit, sounds like just that, a devkit. It gives us little information on what we should expect out of the final machine.

I've said this before, but final silicon is expected to ship soon, and from that, we will have a semblance of an idea what to expect.

I am just as impatient as the rest of you. VGleaks, hurry your ass up.

is it a question between 4 and 8gb or 2 and 4? or are odd numbers like 3.5 in play? are we talking all unified gddr in any case?

8gb gddr5, theres just no way i see that as possible cost wise.

I thougt final silicon wasn't expected until later in the year?

there were some rumors of "summer" I thought. That was on vgleaks Orbis roadmap for one. Thuway has been saying soon though, and Durango beta kits are supposedly pretty final and went out in the past few weeks.

 

[ChaosInTheRain]

A touchpad on the controller could work well for a linear weapon select gui or even a weapon wheel. It could also be good for zooming and panning the camera in certain games. There are definite uses.

 

[EmperorLawlight]

If Sony is offering backwards compatibility through hardware on PS4, why did they acquire gaikai?

What makes you think the PS4 will be BC through hardware?

 

[Valnen]

If Sony is offering backwards compatibility through hardware on PS4, why did they acquire gaikai?

Nobody knows why they acquired Gaikai. It could just be an alternative way to play game demos for all we know. Or it could be a way to allow you to stream any game you want to your Vita with minimal/no input lag. Nobody knows.

 

[Angelus Errare]

Also big and hot.

That's what she said. :3

 

[Sidewinder]

Really? What is the CPU in new ps3 slim?

A dead Cell

 

[mrklaw]

is it a question between 4 and 8gb or 2 and 4? or are odd numbers like 3.5 in play? are we talking all unified gddr in any case?

8gb gddr5, theres just no way i see that as possible cost wise.



there were some rumors of "summer" I thought. That was on vgleaks Orbis roadmap for one. Thuway has been saying soon though, and Durango beta kits are supposedly pretty final and went out in the past few weeks.

Timing just seems odd considering these devkits have just gone out.

And last minute changes don't sound promising. You don't make an efficient console (both in performance and cost) by changing things at the last moment. Neither is it good for devs trying to gauge what they can achieve for initial projects

 

[Durante]

An SPE module would be totally awesome, especially if they plan to keep it in there and if it's in all the models. Because then it could be used by PS4 games as well, and its performance is absolutely non-negligible for stuff it's good at.

I don't think it's very likely though.

 

[thuway]

is it a question between 4 and 8gb or 2 and 4? or are odd numbers like 3.5 in play? are we talking all unified gddr in any case?

8gb gddr5, theres just no way i see that as possible cost wise.

I agree with this. The only logical explanation if they wanted to go this route would be to delay the machine into 2014, and implement stacked DDR4 at 100 GB/S. It would be a middle of the road decision, but would offer enough bandwith for 1080p 60 FPS, but we are talking about a theoretical 500 million dollar change and a shit ton of lost market share. I just don't see it happening.