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Did Monolith Soft run over Square-Enix with 'X'?

Because it definitely seems dead in it's current form

That's because Square Enix are making you think it's dead.

Because they are idiots.

And no one is wrong to come to the conclusion that it's cancelled, because the way SE has handled this title is completely idiotic.
 

Narolf

Banned
i don't know man, selling out on the ios and profiting off of mmo's is one thing, but not making a quality title for 6 years?

how do you show promise with closing out the last generation with the likes of ff12 and dragon quest 8 to opening this gen up with ports and rehashes, and closing out this gen with ff all the bravest and lightning returns?

EDIT: people think that versus is a AAA title that is put on a pedestal at Square? lol.,..wow.

Quality is debatable, I guess. Even if you consider the XIII trilogy as the worst stinking shit they have ever pulled out of their ass, it doesn't change the fact some of their games remain universally acclaimed: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=46844888&postcount=908

I've enjoyed XII, even though it's not in my top 3 FF (VII, VIII and XIII) so I can't really answer your question.
 
I want to say SE has run over themselves, but they've shot themselves in the feet so many times they probably can't do any running at all. So Eidos came along, picked them up and carried them to safety

X looks awesome
 
to be looking forward to versus is like living in hell on earth, you are given hope only to be driven to deeper despair. sure you will get some "footage" this e3, but only for the game to never ever come out.
 

Gravijah

Member
I want to say SE has run over themselves, but they've shot themselves in the feet so many times they probably can't do any running at all. So Eidos came along, picked them up and carried them to safety

X looks awesome

Let's not pretend Eidos is anything more than Eidos; as if the days of cashing in on the Tomb Raider games with mediocre sequels is a lifetime ago.
 

kuroshiki

Member
Square Enix Japan console department is nothing but a running joke these days.

Square Enix Europe however is force to be reckoned with.

Square Enix Mobile department is making SHIT TON of money.

Square Enix online department is nothing but shamble of ruins.


So overall Square Enix is fine, at least financially.
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
I want to say SE has run over themselves, but they've shot themselves in the feet so many times they probably can't do any running at all. So Eidos came along, picked them up and carried them to safety

X looks awesome

Except SE is the one who saved Eidos.
 

Narolf

Banned
In the Mood for Love. But I do hope to have one of Leung's nuts shots from Lust, Caution as my next avatar.

At any rate, granted of the little of you I've read so far, it provides your posts with the accurate tone, just as it should.
 
I will say that the aesthetics and character design in versus still looks better. X has shown almost nothing in that department though. Which makes me worry that it's not gonna be more than an open world grindfrest or have a story that's just light Shonen.
 

TDLink

Member
I vaguely recall SE doing something similar with FFXII - that is being silent for months on it before its re-reveal.

Hasn't it been over 2 years since the last trailer? (January 2011 I believe) I also seem to recall Square making a big to do about that specific trailer as well, wrapping it in some Fabula Nova Crystallis event and branding it as a re-reveal. Yet, we have seen nothing since.
 

Whompa

Member
Really really liked that trailer, but Versus 13 still somehow resonates, even after all these years, with me more. I just like the universe they were pitching with Versus.

This does however look amazing. Seriously. It's definitely something that I will play to keep my mind off the 6/7+ years of unfortunate waiting...
 
Hasn't it been over 2 years since the last trailer? (January 2011 I believe) I also seem to recall Square making a big to do about that specific trailer as well, wrapping it in some Fabula Nova Crystallis event and branding it as a re-reveal. Yet, we have seen nothing since.

Because Lightning Returns is more important.
 
I will say that the aesthetics and character design in versus still looks better. X has shown almost nothing in that department though. Which makes me worry that it's not gonna be more than an open world grindfrest or have a story that's just light Shonen.

With so little info we can only ask
Who's style do you like better, Nomura's or Tanaka's?
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Hasn't it been over 2 years since the last trailer? (January 2011 I believe) I also seem to recall Square making a big to do about that specific trailer as well, wrapping it in some Fabula Nova Crystallis event and branding it as a re-reveal. Yet, we have seen nothing since.

Things can change rather quickly in the gaming industry.
 

Gravijah

Member
You can work and show things at the same time.

Rockstar does it with GTA5.

GTAV likely went into development right after GTAIV, and we didn't get a trailer until 2011... And then there was complete silence until October 2012.

Not SE level, but yeah. Information shouldn't have been given out about Versus XIII until it was deep into production. Once it is truly close to release we'll actually start seeing things.

It's best to just put Versus out of your mind. I wouldn't be surprised if it was quietly cancelled.

I would. A lot of time and money has been put into Versus XIII and this is the same company that has been working on re-building FFXIV instead of just letting it decay and rot away.
 

Perfo

Thirteen flew over the cuckoo's nest
It's best to just put Versus out of your mind. I wouldn't be surprised if it was quietly cancelled.

Like Kagari already said, the producer behind it a couple of months ago already confirmed the game will be revealed this year. Probably I add to this, released in Spring 2014 worldwide if LR makes it for December. Unless it has been moved to next-gen but I don't see the reasons to.
 

Narolf

Banned
I would. A lot of time and money has been put into Versus XIII and this is the same company that has been working on re-building FFXIV instead of just letting it decay and rot away.

Couldn't have said it better myself. FFXIV is the shining proof pigs will be capable of flying at some point.
 

turnbuckle

Member
I just want more grand scale epic RPG's. X looks amazing and I really hope Square respond

This. The trailer for that alone has me expecting to buy a Wii U down the road. Basically, whenever it comes out I'll probably pick it and the console up same day.

But if Versus manages to be out around the same time, I admit it'll cause me to put X on the backburner for a bit.

Isn't Dragon Quest X doing very well?

Has this been announced for the Wii U in North America yet? I honestly don't know as I've tried to avoid much about that game since it has heartbreaker written all over for me. 1 - MMO; 2 - Console MMO; 3 - What I saw of it looked awful; 4 - I love the series and worry it'll leave a bad taste in my mouth; 5 - It might never come here anyways so I'll always be left to wonder. :(
 

Kagari

Crystal Bearer
Like Kagari already said, the producer behind it a couple of months ago already confirmed the game will be revealed this year. Probably I add to this, released in Spring 2014 worldwide if LR makes it for December. Unless it has been moved to next-gen but I don't see the reasons to.

LR is definitely before December.
 

caesar

Banned
Versus will be released, the thing is Square have inadvertently mythologised it by keeping it so secret. I mean really, they should have showed something. Now I feel whatever is eventually released will inevitably be a disappointment. It'll have to be incredible in order to meet expectations.

But not releasing it? That would be the worst move ever.
 

Persona86

Banned
I would. A lot of time and money has been put into Versus XIII and this is the same company that has been working on re-building FFXIV instead of just letting it decay and rot away.
This.

Versus Cancelled? hahaha
With all the hype, money, time put into this, why would anybody think they would throw away all that potential?
Like I said before, once Lightning is gone, Noctis will come to take the crown.
 

MagiusNecros

Gilgamesh Fan Annoyance
But Va has the best translation of any mainline FF.

and Galuf.

And Gilgamesh.

and Ghido.

I will give you VI has the best final boss in the series.

VIa also has GILGAMESH so I don't care too much about either version.

Although FFV is the superior game.

Don't care what anyone says, FFVI boring midway through for me.

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LR is going for a Fall release. Hope it coincides with Pokemon X/Y.

:p
 

CorvoSol

Member
VIa also has GILGAMESH so I don't care too much about either version.

Although FFV is the superior game.

Don't care what anyone says, FFVI boring midway through for me.

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LR is going for a Fall release. Hope it coincides with Pokemon X/Y.

:p

Bwah?
 

Narolf

Banned
Versus will be released, the thing is Square have inadvertently mythologised it by keeping it so secret.
Bad faith.

http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Noctis_Lucis_Caelum
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Stella_Nox_Fleuret
http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/King_Caelum

~> What is the extent of Noctis' power?
~> How does it relate to Stella's?
~> Are those two antagonists?
~> Who is the mysterious white robed man?
~> Who is the last king?​

Among several other interrogations.

Pope guy is related to Stella if you ask me.

Think I'll do a summary post of everything we know about Versus in the FF community thread once that other project is up and running.
 

TDLink

Member
Things can change rather quickly in the gaming industry.

Oh, yes, I know and I am sure we will see Versus at some point again and it will release at some point. At this point though I am not really sure we are still going to see it on PS3. And it's really anyone's guess as to when it would actually come out after we finally see it again in a re-re-reveal. Right now the game was initially shown in early 2006 (I believe), re-revealed in the first month of 2011, and has now been on radio silence since then. In other words, it has been in some form of development since, likely, 2005. That's over 7 years at this point, the last two of which we have heard nothing. It is somewhat ridiculous.
 

Nemo

Will Eat Your Children
I vaguely recall SE doing something similar with FFXII - that is being silent for months on it before its re-reveal.
Reveals don't mean shit IMO. Game took like 6 years to put vs Versus which is now going on for what, 7 years? Not to mention XII was the mainline title they absolutely needed as a company.

I think the trouble SE is facing is that they are currently making enough bank on XIII and it's sequels plus their other ventures, combined with the hype that Versus has gotten from fans that they just don't know what to do with it. They can throw a ton of money at it to make it a critical success, but it's not necessary. It's basically in a state like a potential Chrono sequel at this point
 
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