Portugeezer
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oh boy....
Before I judge him, can someone clarify what SW means?
oh boy....
Before I judge him, can someone clarify what SW means?
Before I judge him, can someone clarify what SW means?
Before I judge him, can someone clarify what SW means?
oh boy....
I think most people forget what the word: profit, means.
Most companies will sell new hard at a loss, and not make any profit on their launch dates. If Nintendo, with his current line up, make a profit... I can't even think about the possibilities when major titles are released.
And sure, people will claim that Orbis and Durango will kill the WiiU sells... let's stay frosty and wait for date and price. Because with the specifications I saw... the WiiU is still very competitive price/power (and add that "new feeling" with the new controller).
As someone who's not really a long-term Sales-Age expert, but does enjoy trying to get a better understanding of the business-side, I personally think getting an accurate idea of how the 3DS is performing to be one of the most difficult nuts to crack. My understanding of it is as follows: it got off to a rough start, but the price cut/ambassador program/big Mario games more or less salvaged it. As is, it's more or less doing "OK," but is underperforming Nintendo's expectations and is only truly soaring in Japan.
That's how I understand the situation. Basically, the overall assessment to me seems rather mediocre thus far. But there's no shortage of talk in terms of assessing it at the extremes that really muddies the waters for me. Some seem to classify it almost as an abject failure, while others just focus on the "tens of millions" sold to conclude that it's well on its way to being a very respectable successor to the smash hit DS.
What a tool. That software projection of sales was done before they delayed all of those Q1 titles.
It's too early to say if it is gonna be a very big success (>120M) or just achieve decent but still a bit disappointing numbers (60-70M). Of course it could end up falling in anything between those lines. As long as people don't give numbers on what they consider a success or a failure though, it's hard to have any kind of discussion.
This will help you have an idea of where the 3ds stands right now compared to GBA and DS: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47074766&postcount=251. As you can see, they're still pretty closely lumped up together, the question will be what kind of momentum will the 3DS carry into the next financial year or two which will probably be a deciding factor on where its total sales will end up. (The DS kept soaring while the GBA started settling down a bit).
I feel it is very fair to say that calling the 3DS a failure at this point is exaggerated as it is pretty much out of the equation now unless something terrible happens. My personal opinion is that it's doing pretty good and looking at the releases planned in NA & Europe this year, I think sales will start picking up in these territories too, securing a bright feature for the handheld.
3DS progress resembling DS/GBA progress is a damn miracle considering the price differences.It's too early to say if it is gonna be a very big success (>120M) or just achieve decent but still a bit disappointing numbers (60-70M). Of course it could end up falling in anything between those lines. As long as people don't give numbers on what they consider a success or a failure though, it's hard to have any kind of discussion.
This will help you have an idea of where the 3ds stands right now compared to GBA and DS: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=47074766&postcount=251. As you can see, they're still pretty closely lumped up together, the question will be what kind of momentum will the 3DS carry into the next financial year or two which will probably be a deciding factor on where its total sales will end up. (The DS kept soaring while the GBA started settling down a bit).
I feel it is very fair to say that calling the 3DS a failure at this point is exaggerated as it is pretty much out of the equation now unless something terrible happens. My personal opinion is that it's doing pretty good and looking at the releases planned in NA & Europe this year, I think sales will start picking up in these territories too, securing a bright feature for the handheld.
What a tool. That software projection of sales was done before they delayed all of those Q1 titles.
Pacter wasn't right anyway, he called the attach rate (4.36) unrealistic iirc. That's barely changed in the revised projection (4), and they nearly hit it this quarter (3.82).
To be fair, when it comes to Nintendo post-2009 he has been right pretty much across the board.
other than the wii hd was defiantly coming and the 3ds launch price was too low.
To be fair, when it comes to Nintendo post-2009 he has been right pretty much across the board.
To be fair, when it comes to Nintendo post-2009 he has been right pretty much across the board.
I enjoy Pachter's weird obsession with Nintendo fanboys. He's gone from "That one guy who won't shut up about Wii HD" to Gamefaqs forum poster in his pursuit of arguing with them.
Yo, Pachter. You're supposed to be a professional. Don't engage.
If you read things carefully it's not like that, Iwata stated that the company is losing money on Wii U hardware and software sales are not at the expected levels to make up for it.
The company is posting an operative loss and forecasting an operative loss for the full FY, so they're losing money.
Nintendo being back in black with net profits is basically a gift of the weak yen to japanese companies (other big exporters like Toyota, Canon, Sony, Panasonic will benefit of this as well).
There is a reason the stock is down almost 8% today.
So no there isn't a lot of room to cut the price on Wii U without keeping a losing money strategy.
What a tool. That software projection of sales was done before they delayed all of those Q1 titles.
You mean Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101?
You mean Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101?
As well as Wii Fit U and Game & Wario.
As well as Wii Fit U and Game & Wario.
All these games combined probably won´t break the 1 million in their first weaks and months, let alone come anywhere close to 8.
More games people want will cause them to buy older releases when they pick up their consoles such as Mario and they probably include Nintendo Land numbers as well.
I would agree. At the very leastvthe last year or so. Before then he was dumb.To be fair, when it comes to Nintendo post-2009 he has been right pretty much across the board.
I think it's the lowered hardware projections taking a large bite too. Lego City getting pushed to the end of the FY in the west hurts too, it'd have done significantly more as a holiday release (which was the original plan I've been told). Essentially it was 5 big delays, Japan's also getting G&W at the end of March.LOL, that were so obviously going to do 8mill between them.
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I didn't see anything about attach rate in his backslapping victory tweet, did you?Looks like he was right then?
I'll say more, Wii Plus/HD in 2010!He predicted the WiiU to be sold out until march. Need i say more?
I think it's the lowered hardware projections taking a large bite too. Lego City getting pushed to the end of the FY in the west hurts too, it'd have done significantly more as a holiday release (which was the original plan I've been told). Essentially it was 5 big delays, Japan's also getting G&W at the end of March.
I didn't see anything about attach rate in his victory tweet, did you?
To be fair, when it comes to Nintendo post-2009 he has been right pretty much across the board.
That´s true but the number of people that buy a WiiU for these titles will be rather "small". Except maybe Pikmin none of them have any system seller qualities.
It's not even a change of 1 (4.36 to 4) and they did within striking distance this quarter (3.82). The attach rate wasn't an unrealistic projection, even if it falls slightly short. It's the absolute figures that took a tumble.He said 4.36 was unrealistic, it's 3.8 and they're aiming for 4?
Therefore he's right ...
He's talking about software sales
January 30, 2013
3DS NDS Wii Wii U
Hardware 15.00 2.30 4.00 4.00
Software 50.00 33.00 50.00 16.00
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October 24, 2012
3DS NDS Wii Wii U
Hardware 17.50 2.50 5.00 5.50
Software 70.00 37.00 50.50 24.00
What a tool. That software projection of sales was done before they delayed all of those Q1 titles.
Looks like he was right then?
That´s true but the number of people that buy a WiiU for these titles will be rather "small". Except maybe Pikmin none of them have any system seller qualities.
Obviously having those titles would have been better than the nothing that's currently scheduled. Arguing that they wouldn't have made any difference is willful ignorance here man. It's not like one obscure title was pushed to second quarter.
Filler sells systems too. What you need is a combination of the two to really drive hardware consistently. Game & Wario or Wonderful 101 might not be what people rush out to buy a Wii U for, but they add to and diversify the library overall and that can help push system sales. These sort of games support the NSMBUs and Nintendo Lands. They were also part of the reason why Wii fizzled so fast, it had the system sellers but not enough filler long term.That´s true but the number of people that buy a WiiU for these titles will be rather "small". Except maybe Pikmin none of them have any system seller qualities.
I think if they'd released as originally planned, say Lego in December, Wario in January, Pikmin/Fit/101 spread from February to March, that they'd have moved closer to 8m than 1m. Lego, Wario and Fit would each be good for over a million worldwide.I didn´t do that. Just said that they´d probably be closer to 1 million than to 8 million.
That´s true but the number of people that buy a WiiU for these titles will be rather "small". Except maybe Pikmin none of them have any system seller qualities.
I love how he tweets his correct predictions, like 'I finally did it!'
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Not entirely familiar with the numbers on the franchise, but was Pikmin ever really a "system seller"? I suspect that if they push the title enough and find a good opportunity to add a deal of features it could turn into one but I was always under the impression that it was only one of the finer lines when it came to IP value.
he really calls people Nintendo babies? weird