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BF4 WiiU, Uncharted 4 PS3, Super Mario Universe, MW4 & DI Vita listed (Chile's Zmart)

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PhantomR

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Naked Lunch said:
WiiU 24 players gimped version: confirmed.
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24 players at once? I know it's not the holy grail 64 players but....

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73V3N

Banned
shagg_187 said:
Comedians. Let me explain what I mean by "on par".

On par means 64 players, full on maps with the same features as PC version. No one is talking about graphics here.

WiiU, PS3 and 360 versions have gimped features.
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You are the only comedian here, game is not even announced yet.
 
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GulAtiCa

Member
Not surprised that the next CoD would come to Wii U. I also expect Battlefield 4 to come to Wii U, but I expect it late...
 
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majik13

Member
shagg_187 said:
Comedians. Let me explain what I mean by "on par".

On par means 64 players, full on maps with the same features as PC version. No one is talking about graphics here.

WiiU, PS3 and 360 versions have gimped features and far less players.
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more RAM, and a different online infrastructure could mean 64 players for WiiU, but closer to current gen graphics. but I am not holding my breath.

I do remember a DICE dev saying the online infrastructure and bandwidth cap of LIVE and PSN were the main reasons there was no 64 players.

but really I am not expecting much better or different for wiiu.
 
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big_z

Member
shagg_187 said:
PS4/720 are on par with PC.
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Visually it'll be closer. Wether or not the number of players goes up depends on Microsoft and Sony revising their network rules. Right now they have a limit which is in place so that the same online experience can be had by people with slow Internet. Internet speeds have obviously gotten faster in the past 8 years but the network limitations haven't been revised.

Dice tested up to 100 players with bf3 on consoles. They said 32 was doable without performance issues but there wasn't enough bandwidth allowance. They could have removed vehicles and further destruction but then what's the point.
 
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Seance

Banned
Meelow said:
Too be fare, all console versions will most likely be scaled down compared to the PC version, unless they make the PC version on par with the PS4/720 version.
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Because everyone will have a PC that runs BF4 better than nextbox/PS4. Yep.
 
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FyreWulff

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BF4 is going to be on current gen in addition to Wii U of course. It'd be silly to target a big release towards new consoles then be left twisting in the wind if they are delayed past the holiday season.
 
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Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew

Banned
73V3N said:
*features are not even announced/confirmed yet.
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There's an entire thread that would disagree with you.

Regardless, I'll keep that discussion in that thread. If you want to go with "official" words, then there is no WiiU version and there never will be, and that next-gen consoles don't even exist in any way... until 20th Feb of course.
 
Portugeezer

Portugeezer

Member
shagg_187 said:
There's an entire thread that would disagree with you.

Regardless, I'll keep that discussion in that thread. If you want to go with "official" words, then there is no WiiU version and there never will be, and that next-gen consoles don't even exist in any way... until 20th Feb of course.
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dat officialness
 
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AllIsOneIsNone

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73V3N said:
You are the only comedian here, game is not even announced yet.
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Next gen system specs aren't technically announced yet either. And they will be on par with what PC has to offer now, I think. It's always how its worked...PC looks better on paper, new consoles up the ante and have better optimization/efficiency, which in turn boosts PC optimization (over time). In other words, PC's current capabilities are crutched by the current gen's limitations.
 
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RoKKeR

Member
I've never understood why retailer listings from obscure websites make news. Especially something as obscure and odd as this.
 
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shinra-bansho

Member
This would surprise me given Madden. EatChildren had a really good post about the situation in a different thread.
EatChildren said:
Based on discussions earlier, here's what I think has happened.

EA has, for a little while now, been in the process of cementing their next gen plans. And I don't mean a vague list of titles, but how to best manage their finances, which titles and franchises to focus on, and what technology will be used by their studios.

Early on, and I mean really early on, they probably intended to bank on the Wii U. It would make no sense not to. Priority was probably on Sony and/or Microsoft, but Nintendo was always part of the equation. However, a change in circumstances has lead them to put their money on Microsoft and Sony's horses instead.

Firstly, EA is focusing more on established AAA titles, and new AAA franchise. Far less so on the middle games. This is your Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Battlefield, Madden, Fifa, and so on. These are big budget title with blockbuster production values, intending to push cutting edge technology to high levels. The alternative to these games is their F2P offerings, like Command & Conquer.

Secondly, EA is pushing Frostbite 2.0 internally. It is to be their engine for their games, especially for their AAA titles. Frostbite 2.0 is a CPU heavy game, that is far better suited to powerful CPU computing than low-middle tier. Whether or not it can run on the Wii U is irrelevant. If rumours are correct, the Wii U's specifications, especially in the CPU department, may have fallen short of EA's expectations. Especially for their expectations of what Frostbite 2.0 will require, based on internal advice from technicians. Given the focus for next generation from EA will be on AAA Frostbite 2.0 titles, this suddenly puts the Wii U in a difficult position.

Thirdly, conservationism in direction. EA is doing the above, with their focus on the traditional Microsoft/Sony market. They're so wary about expanding, acquiring new IPs, and risking investment in non-target platforms that they, for example, didn't even bother to bank on anything from THQ's fire sale. Once upon time this would be very different. Today, not so much. Whether or not you agree with their focus or whether or not it will actually work is irrelevant. The point is they have a focus, and the Wii U could very well not be part of that picture.

As a cherry on top, they probably had difficulty working with Nintendo in regards to what to expect from the Wii U. You're not going to get conference level "unprecedented partnership" bullshit unless it's actually intended. This all happened almost a year and a half before the Wii U launched. I suspect Nintendo was still finalising details of their system, especially in regards to online hardware, and at the time EA expected A) more flexibility in the online service, perhaps with Origin, and B) a stronger system.

Had the Wii U steered much closer to Durango and Orbis we might be seeing different behaviour. However, as it is, the huge hardware gap simply favours EA's next generation plans far more than what the Wii U offers on its own. They may simply believe the technology struggles of having their blockbuster AAA games pushing Frostbite 2.0 down to the Wii U enters a realm of marketing and production that is not on par with other platforms, as in it becomes very similar to the 360/PS3->Wii situation. Again, not really a case of "can this work?", but "does this meet our goals?".

And at this point in time, the Wii U does not look to be part of their next generation forecast. EA has picked their horses and bet on them.
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guek

Banned
shagg_187 said:
Comedians. Let me explain what I mean by "on par".

On par means 64 players, full on maps with the same features as PC version. No one is talking about graphics here.

WiiU, PS3 and 360 versions have gimped features and far less players.
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Well mister, you didn't really communicate that's what you meant now did you. BAH!

Though to be fair, we don't know whether or not ps4/xb3 will be allowed the bandwidth for 64 players even if they'll certainly be capable of the workload.

Anywho, this listing doesn't mean anything.

We've seen this before.
 
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Shining Sunshine

Banned
After the extremely abysmal FIFA sales?

Not gonna happen. If EA's strongest IP sold like nothing, they won't bother putting any more effort on it.
 
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EVIL

Member
bf4 for wiiu would not surprise me, they scaled back the pc version to the vastly inferior 360 and ps3. Surely they can do it for the wiiu
 
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walking fiend

Member
shinra-bansho said:
This would surprise me given Madden. EatChildren had a really good post about the situation in a different thread.
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Really great analysis; I too believe the ship has sailed, and unlike the Wii, the development costs of even a gimped version is not worth it, specially when the system is not only selling HW, but even less SW.
 
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Gamer @ Heart

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walking fiend said:
Really great analysis; I too believe the ship has sailed, and unlike the Wii, the development costs of even a gimped version is not worth it, specially when the system is not only selling HW, but even less SW.
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The ship has not sailed. It has been three months. There is still plenty of time to turn things around as the 3DS showed and we have no idea what how new 400 dollar consoles will preform in the market.
 
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