shinra-bansho
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Can't possibly be serious.
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Tiger Woods 14 not likely for Wii U
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Can't possibly be serious.
so 10 millions is the minimum bar?
if so, Nintendo better be prepared to die quickly (as a lot of other competitors, honestly)
Baconsammy
Banned
No but seriously. No answer?
well people are claiming a dreamcast level failure because TW is not comming. Its not such a big franchise.
I cant do a search on sales figures dating back to the famicom days (where the franchise started) on an iphone
TW will not be the only title from EA (and third parties) not coming on the Wii U. The Dreamcast was cited to underline the sabotage EA did on that platform (starting from the "Sport" label) that was entirely skipped by the company, and that seriously risk to be repeated with the Wii U.
You mean the likes of fifa madden and nfl, that didn''t really do all that well on the wii anyway, and yet never really contributed massive amounts of sales for the wii.
Without them the wii would stil have sold almost as much as it did now.
And yes Mysims/ea active etc did better, but what, besides money for nintendo, do these games contribute anyway.
They weree throwaway cash ins that devalued the platform in the long run imho.
And EA used the masses of money they made on it to fund proper projects on comnpeting systems.
As a Nintendo fan, I rather not see those games on Wiiu anyway.
I would like properly made and marketed multiplatforms on it, but it seems Nintendo will never really get those anyway, so why bother.
As I said repeatedly. Nintendos own games are much bigger sellers compared to sega games and were the main factors of wiis success. EA games would be helpful but its not a precondition for success.
At this point i rather have Nintendo forget about trying too hard to get multiplatform titles, and just expand themselves to try to make games in genres that we're usually done by those 3rd parties, and compete hard with them on it. It's not like they don't already think Nintendo does that anyway.
You mean "Very interesting Wii U-related news", I think.
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Wii =/= Wii U
The Wii U is much less successful and will need to use a more traditional model to succeed. That means full third party support like PS3/360.
My guess is that Origin was going to be the eShop until EA demanded something like 30% of all game proceeds, and nintendo offered 30% of Nintendo's cut of 30% (so 9%)
Perhaps "confirmation" is a better concept
I'm surprised this still needs to be stated. The Wii was a wildfire success that nobody saw coming. The Wii-U is not going to repeat that feat (which isn't a knock on the console, the Wii was just something else).
Haunted
Member
When it's about not putting games on Nintendo consoles?
never
edit: also, I'm amazed that people (recognisable posters who should know better) are still earnestly replying to farnham. He's the new gahigiddy.
What is a FAQ? A
In short: I'd argue that this sort of thing belongs in the Rules, not the FAQ. Or at least have it being a Rule to read the FAQ!
Edit: (That said, noticed a comment from donny2112 suggesting that attributing things correctly would give you a hint that it's wrong; good point)
lol
You must have a personal problem with me looking at your hostile attitude in SC2 or nimtendo related threads. Feel free to PM me and we may sort it out privately
While the wiiu has not been as succesful we dont know its final sales number yet. Nintendo has done a bad job no doubt, but we have not seen sales numbers for wiifit u , wii party u, mario kart and the likes which will come out within this year.
Actually, Tiger 12 completely tanked on the Wii. They didn't even make Tiger 13 for it. The series had been selling worse and worse each year on Wii so they finally abandoned it. It's all in EA's forums.
Yay, someone understand, finally
But let's dream about the Wii U huge success based on Game&Wario all together!
Is *that* the 'expecting millions, got tens of thousands' title?
Edit: Noticed the later comment. Ouch.
If anything it is going to be wii fit u, wii party u and mario kart u. The wario ware series is not sich a significant seller.
Haunted
Member
I have a real bad case of deja vu right now. It's the catch-22 of the Wii all over again.
No proper support -> games don't sell -> no proper support.
But they don't want a repeat of the Wii, where they were giving good lip service and attempted some B-tier efforts over the first couple years. Now they're bailing much quicker.
those game without the remote/motion control/balance board fever of the Wii will sell WAAAAAAAAAY less.
that's the reason why, if Nintendo would like to do similar wii results, should look for better third party support.
it's not a matter of TW only: TW is just one example of the lack of third parties, but especially (as I was saying) of EA's total refuse of the console.
Honestly, I'm getting the feeling Wii Fit U and Wii party U won't be the huge sellers everyone is expecting them to be.
You don't think AC:Liberation and COD
This seems logical, but it does raise one key question I can't answer: What about the PSP's performance convinced them it was worth developing for Vita? If they rejected developing for the Wii U very early on due to being burnt by the Wii, what did they see in the PSP's performance that convinced them to stick with Sony's portables? Did they just come to the conclusion that the entire issue with the PSP's lack of success in the west was down to piracy?
Thats your assumption. We have no idea if they will be succesful or not. If they fail wiiu will be in a very hard spot. But dont forget that there are over 20 million balance boards in households and significantly more wiimotes
zomgbbqftw
Banned
Wii Fit U is going to tank because the fitness game fad is over and Wii Party U is a bunch of shovelware mini games. Mario Kart is the only one of those that will be successful, but it won't be out for a long time.
The Wii rode Wii Sports to early success and it had a solid Zelda entry at launch to get the hardcore in. The Wii U has neither of these to appeal to casuals or the hardcore.
The Wii U as a console is a tough nut to crack, it needs better marketing, a physical appearance change, a name change (Wii 2), a price cut and games that take advantage of the tablet, so far only ZombiU and Nintendo Land show off the tablet, not even NSMBU makes proper use of it.
no assumption: we are already seeing that Wii U is not as hot as the Wii was.
so, if you miss something, you have to gain something else to par the weaknesses.
instead, they are losing also the few third party suppor they saw on the Wii.
Yes after less than a year and with two first party titles. As i said if wii party u and wii fit u bombs i will be on the wii u bombed train
Wii Fit U and Wii Party U will be succesful if they can get back the audience that existed on Wii but was not served ever since.
Your arguments are weak as Nintendo is trying to be a trendsetter not to be a follower. Your argument is that fitness games nowadays dont sell but those are mostly me too titles rather than the original. Also according to your logic wii fit should not have existed in the first place as fitness games usually bombed
In this case there are a host of other recognisable poster from the other aisle argueing with him, so it evens out methink.
It seems you just come to every Wii U topic just to talk it down.
shinra-bansho
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On fitness games, courtesy of NPD and jvm:
"is the Xbox 360 gaining any share in the fitness genre? Yes, says Callahan, since "in 2012, Xbox 360 accounted for 36 percent of all Fitness software units compared to 24 percent for 2011".
But, I should point out that the fitness genre is one that is contracting, just like the rest of the market. In the full year of 2011, the total number of fitness software units was 5.2 million, and that fell 46 percent to 2.8 million in 2012. So Microsoft has a greater share of a shrinking pie."
"is the Xbox 360 gaining any share in the fitness genre? Yes, says Callahan, since "in 2012, Xbox 360 accounted for 36 percent of all Fitness software units compared to 24 percent for 2011".
But, I should point out that the fitness genre is one that is contracting, just like the rest of the market. In the full year of 2011, the total number of fitness software units was 5.2 million, and that fell 46 percent to 2.8 million in 2012. So Microsoft has a greater share of a shrinking pie."
You think people are really going to throw down $300 to do Wii Fit again?
hardcore players in the 15-35 years old range ? No, but those were never the wiifit customerbase. If they will reach the casual customerbase is the main question. At the end of the day it comes down to marketing.
I could see them investing a lot in marketing as they now that they are screwed without the casual gamer and non gamer
Which big gaming franchise is not similar to the last iteration?
And after two games that sold 20 mio you are saying it will outright bomb, really?
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes, I am, because of the small user base of the Wii U.
People are still confused about the difference between Wii and Wii U. They haven't done anything to fix that. Many people this game is targeting will think it is still for the Wii with an add-on controller gamepad.
Herb Alpert
Banned
What a partnership! unprecedent I would say! Whith partners like this, you don't need enemies!
Refreshment.01
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Seriously, what's the point of that aproach? Never understood that really. Even more, the majority of homes don't possses that shiny, polished wood flooring. The Upad would get scratched to hell. XD
Shame
Adding to that Nintendo f*ck up by not including a Wii Remote in the box so a portion of the user base won't be able to use that set up pictured.
Why do you assume that those game are without remote/motion control/balance board? In fact a simple search for Wii Fit U shows different. Or you just assume that the balance board has no appeal ? What about those that have already a balance board and they could use it again, with the Wii U?
Well, I guess we will see it in some months.
Userbase is not going to stay small if nintendo targets the casuals right. I fully agree that they have failed to do so yet
And here I was hoping that EA would eventually launch the ME trilogy later on Wii U. Lol, not after those (rightfully deserved) shitty sales. Anyway, ME1 would probably have run like shit, just like it does on 360 and PS3. Yay for the PC version, the only one that plays like it should.
Also better forget about the next-gen Mass Effect for ever coming out on Wii U.
Also better forget about the next-gen Mass Effect for ever coming out on Wii U.
No, these people will either keep using the board with their existing Wii or keep the board in the cupboard with the Reebok step, the Billy Bands, the Powerball, the Shakeweight and all the other fitness gimmicks they thought would make them drop three dress sizes by buying and using for a week. These things come and go. They never come back. Wii Fit is done.
Nobody is paying $300+ to do it all over again, no matter how you market it. It looks exactly the same as Fit and Fit + which people are already not using for free.
I think it's much easier to sell iterative improvements and sequels to the "core" audience than it is to do the same for casuals.