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''Oh, Yay, Another Mario Game.'' Step up to Playstation 2/20
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I thought the Zelda hipsters loved WW? Fuck it, I can't keep up anymore.
Portugeezer
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GTA IV isn't exclusive, nor first party. Irrelevant to the chain of quotes, but if you want to start something new then please continue.
They still have more exclusive than Microsoft, IIRC.
Uncharted, The Last of Us, God of War, Little Big Planet, Killzone, Resistance, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, Sly, etc.
but the remake is being hated upon, since, you know, its the newest.
Its a lazy way to discredit for sure, but this ad is right there with it!
Road of Ease
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Oh my God, that game is AWFUL.
Not at all representative of what Zelda is. Trust me.
If gameplay is all that mattered, why continue using the same characters over and over and over? Hell, they won't even flip the roles around outside some obscure stuff. Imagine if they'd launched the WiiU with a Bowser & Peach vs Mario platformer. That'd at least felt different.
Boss Man
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I know right? PS3, 360, PC...third parties are on all of the relevant platforms now.
EmCeeGramr
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It's split between those who love WW, those who love MM, those who love LttP, and those who think that any game after Zelda 1 or Zelda 2 is awful because they lack freedom and whimsy and soul and other fake things
Do some people in this thread really not realize how releasing 22 games starring Mario and Co. since 2005 or whatever year could be... oversaturation of the character(s)/universe, even if the games are in different genres? The fact that almost anything that sells well for Nintendo has Mario on the cover isn't really a secret, and I don't understand how you could get so defensive when that's mocked a bit.
Just because the games are in different genres doesn't mean Mario isn't being milked.
Is it just not understanding the ad in the first place? It's not "oh look the exact same game", it's "oh, look, another game with Mario in it". And there are WAY more games when Mario in them than other characters. I don't see how this can even be an argument.
Just because the games are in different genres doesn't mean Mario isn't being milked.
Is it just not understanding the ad in the first place? It's not "oh look the exact same game", it's "oh, look, another game with Mario in it". And there are WAY more games when Mario in them than other characters. I don't see how this can even be an argument.
ShinobiFist
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It begins. Love the tears of company loyalty all over this thread. Show your colors GAF, is on.
Refreshment.01
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Begins? Did it ever stopped?
Dave Meltzer
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Picking on Nintendo is like making fun of a dying old man with a gun in his lap he's too weak to point.
Coffee Dog
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Well, do you think that Sony's first party developers have a gameplay first mentality?
True, I don't think anybody would care about FF vs XIII not coming to Sony platforms.
GameRanking uses numbers behind a period. NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS.
maquiladora
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dayum...
All of the other Nintendo games had red it them, too.
So you spend roughly half your time in real life picking on old men?
Seriously, GAF hasn't had something silly to revel in for a while now.
@toddhunter: I'm a
Oh shit I've been tricked! Those clever devils, what was I thinking? How could I be satisfied getting all that money sucked from me, while drowning in ads?
SneakyStephan
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Nah, most of the people are here for the trolls and jokes and maybe to see a banning or two.
The posts were really entertaining for a while.
Now people are starting to post without reading the thread though, it's getting really boring.
Gamers unite.
Boss Man
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I know this has probably been brought up before but can I propose the idea of a temporary console war sub-forum? Most heavily moderated boards have a safe zone for people to go and have fun in. This thread is phenomenal and the most fun I've had online in a while but I really don't want to get banned.
flintstryker
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Its amazing this has so many post
Yes, Zelda is just like Mario.
If we're to include guest appearances and retro releases then Mario's been in ~58 games since 2005.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_featuring_Mario
Honestly, I don't necessarily think its a bad thing. Who else is Nintendo going to have star in goofy Tennis, golf, party, and kart games?
Not really true.
Nintendo shines in certain departments like Super Mario Galaxy 2's platforming mechanics and level design, but they also make some unforgivable or embarrassing game design decisions in other instances.
I would go that far. Even in Paper Mario games, which I love, the amount of reoccurring Mario characters and themes is astronomical. It's almost a gag at this point.
And as you said, "explore different facets of the Mario-verse, if that's your thing"... it may have been a thing at one time, but that time is past because Nintendo has whored the series so far into the ground that they don't even need to dig the grave site; it's already in a coffin.
And unlike many, I don't actually think most of the side Mario games are that good - I don't think the Mario sports titles are particularly good anymore (Mario Golf exception, sometimes), and I don't believe any of the Mario party games have ever been good. And they long since destroyed the appeal of their Mario kart series by continually introducing retarded, skilless weapons that coddle shit players. For me, it's really Mario platformers and Mario RPGs that still hold any value for me, and they've diluted that too with what I feel are many mediocre NSMB titles (even the best one, NSMB Wii, takes about nearly half of the game before any levels with the sort of challenge and brazen creativity Nintendo is known for enter the fray). They have NSMB games, and then they take appreciation of visuals and music out of the equation because they're so bland and unimaginative approaches to the Mario universe.
So, yeah, in my view, it's all a symptom of the same problem. Yes, they're different genres, but even the different genre titles are on iteration 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8. And still utilize many of the same abilities (jump, fire flower, etc) and characters (Mario, Toad, Peach, Bowser, blargh) and same world themes (Desert, Grass, Ice, Lava, etc) as all the other ones do. They put little variations and spins on the themes, but we're far past that being enough to make it OK anymore as far as I'm concerned.
dacuk
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LOL YES
statham
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RIP.
SneakyStephan
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It already exists, it's called gametrailers and gamefaqs.
airmangataosenai
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One world one love.
Hey, some of them have good graphics and gameplay.
Killzzzzone is just not one of them.
Dave Meltzer
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maquiladora
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Somebody make the thread about that ad.
Because every Sony effort is gold.
IllumiNate
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Hahaha.
Best way to describe it. Vita is the guy on the left, 3DS on the right:
WiiU, not Iwata looking on helplessly:
A dead WiiU doesn't bounce.
HOLY SHIT YOU'RE KILLING ME MAN! I love you.
mohsinkhan
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At the end of the day, I agree Sony was loosing its exclusives, but like any good company they are coming back stronger then ever. Uncharted, Sly, Ratchet and Clank, TLOU etc.
Oyashrio-Sama
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I hope Sony is paying that new advertizing agency good money because they are doing a pretty good job!
I'm being serious!
I'm being serious!
on the one hand, this kind of stuff is always funny to me and I appreciate it in some weird way. Nothing wrong with some smack talking and its not like its anything knew. It feels like a throwback.
on the other; sony's way too over the top and stupid about it, in the sense that their whole thing is mocking others while (understandably, and I dont mean anything bad by this) getting ideas from them or straight up copying. Just weird. It bothers me and puts me off their company. They're like the big silly bullies of the console business
dont really care that much when its fun like this though
on the other; sony's way too over the top and stupid about it, in the sense that their whole thing is mocking others while (understandably, and I dont mean anything bad by this) getting ideas from them or straight up copying. Just weird. It bothers me and puts me off their company. They're like the big silly bullies of the console business
dont really care that much when its fun like this though
The amount of hubris on Nintendo part is mind boggling.
Clairvoyance
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Sony does as well.
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