Well they seem to be getting round it by saying you will get the 'game'
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Millionaire tries to get $829 via kickstarter to send daughter to RPG maker camp?
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Well they seem to be getting round it by saying you will get the 'game'
Aquamarine
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moka
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Her goal was $829 and she has already received a total backing of $21,831.
baphomet
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The fact that there's a game being made is what makes it not simply a helping project.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Well GAF, I'm a girl. This is important.
I need to buy a $4,000 computer so I can learn how to program! I should totally start a Kickstarter...
Never mind that I already have a $1,500 gaming PC I built myself. That's irrelevant!!
If this doesn't get taken down, I'm totally doing this.
$10,000* Tier
*$4.99 Surcharge for Basic Cotton Panties, $34.99 surcharge if you Silk Victoria Secrets
Worn Panties while researching how to learn to program
50/50 Available!
God damn she's a scumbag.I bet she's laughing like crazy though.
RicardoNeftali
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Kinky John
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I donated £100 because I believe women are just as good as men at making games
and she shouldn't be held back by this funding issue.
(perhaps even better?)
SolidSnakex
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I'd actually be curious to see where he's going to find a 911 for 15k. Even if he did find one for that price, I doubt he'd make it very far in it before it needs some very expensive repairs.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
He's hoping Jerry Seinfeld sees this and hooks him up, $15K extra to play with
RicardoNeftali
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So against my better judgement I clicked the link to her money grab piggybacking off the occupy movement page.
http://fundher.nationbuilder.com/i_m_thankful_for_occupy
And the first comment was telling.
TRULYBLESSED Reed commented 1 year ago · Flag
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE IS MY MONEY FROM THE JUDGEMENT GROUP YOU HAVE BEEN IGNORING ME SINCE JULY
http://fundher.nationbuilder.com/i_m_thankful_for_occupy
And the first comment was telling.
TRULYBLESSED Reed commented 1 year ago · Flag
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE IS MY MONEY FROM THE JUDGEMENT GROUP YOU HAVE BEEN IGNORING ME SINCE JULY
"Prohibited uses:
No charity or cause funding.
Examples of prohibited use include raising money for the Red Cross, funding an awareness campaign, funding a scholarship, or promoting the donation of funds raised, or future profits, to a charity or cause.
No "fund my life" projects.
Examples include projects to pay tuition or bills, go on vacation, or buy a new camera. "
No charity or cause funding.
Examples of prohibited use include raising money for the Red Cross, funding an awareness campaign, funding a scholarship, or promoting the donation of funds raised, or future profits, to a charity or cause.
No "fund my life" projects.
Examples include projects to pay tuition or bills, go on vacation, or buy a new camera. "
moka
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Sounds like she's ran away with someone's money. What's the Judgement Group?
Edit: Ahhh, article linked in OP.
That's her company. She's Founder and CEO.
Early exclusive review for her daughter's game?
She would kick her kids out on the street in homeless garb as a cover to donate it to them and raise more money. I don't know if you're understanding the scope of her operation here.
Aquamarine
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RicardoNeftali
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Funny you asked, I went back to the page and lo and behold...its her in the very next comment.
TRULYBLESSED Reed commented 1 year ago · Flag
I NEED TO KNOW WHERE IS MY MONEY FROM THE JUDGEMENT GROUP YOU HAVE BEEN IGNORING ME SINCE JULY
@judgmentgroup tweeted link to this page. 1 year ago
You may not physically #Occupy but you can DO something b/c YOU are the 99%. The 1% or even top 20% of individuals wh…http://t.co/6k5iuNAD
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^^^that company profile is so anti-occupy. F this lady.
In the kickstarter comments I see plenty of people of defending it by saying they're buying the game that'll be made during the course.
I think if you're reporting this it would be worth pointing out that this can't be a justification for the kick starter - the game is an artefact of her tuition. If this is allowed, anyone can fud tuition on KS by simply packaging up artefacts of the education as a 'product' (e.g. Your thesis, portfolio, code projects etc.). Dangerous precedent if KS doesn't want to be used to fund education.
I think if you're reporting this it would be worth pointing out that this can't be a justification for the kick starter - the game is an artefact of her tuition. If this is allowed, anyone can fud tuition on KS by simply packaging up artefacts of the education as a 'product' (e.g. Your thesis, portfolio, code projects etc.). Dangerous precedent if KS doesn't want to be used to fund education.
moka
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No, no. My car first.
But seriously, let's stop this, even if idiots are willing to give her money. It's a matter of principal.
Aquamarine
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But moka, I am a GIRL. Surely this means my $4,000 computer takes precedence!
moka
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Eh, you're probably right. I don't want to come off as sexist or anything.
We've already lost. She should work for a PR firm or something.
baphomet
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That's what all kickstarters amount to. Getting a product that you're funding the equipment/pay/development of. You can fund a bands studio time to record and album, you can fun equipment for someone to film a movie or record a podcast, it's well within kickstarters rules (assuming what's been posted in this thread is correct.)
Oh wow lol.
"Finally, some good news concerning females in technology."
"On top of that, Adobe has agreed to give the 9-year-old a complimentary subscription to Adobe Creative Cloud to help Kenzie in her noble pursuit."
"Negativity aside, it's refreshing to see the Internet put its pettiness away long enough to make a little girl's dream a reality."
Can't believe Kotaku hasn't jumped on this yet in support of her KS.
[EDIT] "With the help of her mother Susan, Mackenzie Wilson—she goes by Kenzie — turned to the popular crowdfunding site to raise $829"
moka
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What the fuck? I think we're too late.
But KS has an explicit ban on funding tuition (right?)
It's a different thing to kickstart a product being developed outside of an education process.
Just saying, if you want to protest this to KS, pointing out the floodgates it will open to tuition funding if it's allowed to proceed might be a good way to go about it. If this passes I think anyone with a) a story and b) some artefacts of their education that they can package up will be able to fund their education on KS. I mean, I'd have loved to have been able to 'kickstart' my final year project in college
Aquamarine
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Sadly, I think this project may be allowed to complete.
http://www.kickstarter.com/help/guidelines
And yet, this project had no fucking problem launching.
moka
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She was spamming the hell out of strangers on her Twitter account with the same message over and over. Oh man.
RicardoNeftali
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I like how an actual backer displaying some rational skepticism amounts to "haterade." Tech jouralism makes even the worst gaming journalism seem like Pulitzer material.
And I also eagerly await Kotaku having something insanely stupid to say about all of this.
baphomet
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But KS has an explicit ban on funding tuition (right?)
It's a different thing to kickstart a product being developed outside of an education process.
Just saying, if you want to protest this to KS, pointing out the floodgates it will open to tuition funding if it's allowed to proceed might be a good way to go about it. If this passes I think anyone with a) a story and b) some artefacts of their education that they can package up will be able to fund their education on KS. I mean, I'd have loved to have been able to 'kickstart' my final year project in college
Yes, but you're actually funding the creation of a game and the costs associated with it. Her going to a class to learn rpg maker is a part of making the game.
It really just depends on how you look at it. I'm not defending it because I think it's pretty slimey, but as far as im concerned, she's doing it within kickstarters rules. It's not a perfect system, and I'd almost bet that more than a few people have managed to pay for tuition through kickstarter by bending the rules.
did you look at the $10,000 reward, which is directly asking for money for "education" not even related to the project
baphomet
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The one that says you're funding more and better games?
RicardoNeftali
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"The backlash has been loud enough that Susan Wilson responded in an update, noting that she will be posting a video showing off her entire family."
http://mashable.com/2013/03/22/9-year-old-girl-kickstarter-video-game/
Just a spoiler alert, the video never happened. Update #6 states that it was because the boys wouldn't cooperate and started cursing and had to be "sent to their room".
Its private on Kickstarter.com, but if you use the phone app, you can read all updates.
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Also she says her daughter was ALREADY going to camp, and the "boys" got angry that she was paying for it because you know, girls can't make good games. Thus Kickstarter. How does this not violate the rules? The game is already funded its a product of camp. Which was already paid for.
"Please keep in mind, we started this campaign to raise about $900 because Kenzie was going to camp and her brothers were asking why she was going to RPG camp b/c it's not like she was going to be able to make a good game. Together, Kenzie and I decided to do this campaign to prove to them that she was smarter than they thought and she deserved their respect. There's an age gap (the boys are 15 & 16 and Kenzie is 9) and a gender gap and it's at a critical point right now. So I saw this as an opportunity but certainly not a sure thing. It could just have easily gone the other way. Unlike her brothers, Kenzie had the guts and courage to put herself out there (which also means being judged which can hurt sometimes)."
http://mashable.com/2013/03/22/9-year-old-girl-kickstarter-video-game/
Just a spoiler alert, the video never happened. Update #6 states that it was because the boys wouldn't cooperate and started cursing and had to be "sent to their room".
Its private on Kickstarter.com, but if you use the phone app, you can read all updates.
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Also she says her daughter was ALREADY going to camp, and the "boys" got angry that she was paying for it because you know, girls can't make good games. Thus Kickstarter. How does this not violate the rules? The game is already funded its a product of camp. Which was already paid for.
"Please keep in mind, we started this campaign to raise about $900 because Kenzie was going to camp and her brothers were asking why she was going to RPG camp b/c it's not like she was going to be able to make a good game. Together, Kenzie and I decided to do this campaign to prove to them that she was smarter than they thought and she deserved their respect. There's an age gap (the boys are 15 & 16 and Kenzie is 9) and a gender gap and it's at a critical point right now. So I saw this as an opportunity but certainly not a sure thing. It could just have easily gone the other way. Unlike her brothers, Kenzie had the guts and courage to put herself out there (which also means being judged which can hurt sometimes)."
Dave Meltzer
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yea well it's also offering an apology and a t-shirt but you can directly interpret that reward statement as funding education unrelated to the project. it doesn't say the education is related to the "more games"
IrishNinja
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reported, for what little good it'll do
sorry aqua, i had to
sorry aqua, i had to
ps the dreamcast is still sooper
Anyone can fund tuition on KS then.
I believe KS is intended for standalone ventures, and that's what the terms are aimed at. All I'd say is, is that if you want to report this to KS, I would harp on that point, that this is wrapping up artefacts of tuition as 'the project' in order to fund tuition.
Dave Meltzer
Banned
Starting a kickstarter to fund me paying for a prostitute to learn how to not be a lousy lover. In exchange you'll get a video of me ejaculating on the woman's breasts. No faces will be shown.
Aquamarine
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I think you mean "you'll get a DOCUMENTARY of the cumshot." Remember now, it has to be a project.
theSlacker
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Got any stretch goals?
moka
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I'm starting one to fund my University education and at the end I will present a Java program that does something or other.
That's essentially what she's doing so why can't I?
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