iceatcs
Junior Member
Very true. I did it before and people picked the 16 cores CPU rumour.
Wanna get in touch with those fake insiders.
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TALES FROM MY ASS: Durango rumors discussed by anonymous source
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Wanna get in touch with those fake insiders.
well yeah..
if ms really steps towards the way of this rumored stupendous online drm,
not only I will leave the next xbox as the very last step of gaming (pc/ps4/etc before xbox)
but I will also partition all my hdd's in my laptops/desktops and start using linux, so that in a few months win8 and all windows before it get the fuck out of my computers.
I dont really use the second hand market in games, it wouldnt make much/any difference for my spending habits,
but this rumored microsoft tactic is something against my wants and my beliefs. gtfo if you go ahead with it!
if ms really steps towards the way of this rumored stupendous online drm,
not only I will leave the next xbox as the very last step of gaming (pc/ps4/etc before xbox)
but I will also partition all my hdd's in my laptops/desktops and start using linux, so that in a few months win8 and all windows before it get the fuck out of my computers.
I dont really use the second hand market in games, it wouldnt make much/any difference for my spending habits,
but this rumored microsoft tactic is something against my wants and my beliefs. gtfo if you go ahead with it!
SniperHunter
Banned
you know what to do Reiko
Sorry, only one Tales From My Ass thread per GAF user.
dragonelite
Member
Now that you say that all i saw was 2x GPU
Wasn't the 32mb not already a massive amount of transistors?
But makes me wonder crossfire and SLI in a unified architecture probably only needs one copy of the data. That should fix some of the problems with xfire and SLI right?
This is retarded beyond belief.
So now Microsoft has to include a entire 360 SoC in every Durango from now until forever?, thats a huge waste of money over the entire life of the console.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Where does it say that? It says to play Durango games you will need to be connected. (Unless you were talking about BC)
Phonomezer
Banned
64 MB SRAM...lol.
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LOL.
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LOL.
Alx
Member
That's a common practice for BC, though (the only one that can guarantee a good support actually). The PS3 included the PS2 chips, the Wii had those from the Gamecube, and I think the WiiU has those of the Wii.
It is an additional cost, but it is still possible to remove it on later models, like the PS3 and the Wii did.
BlazingDarkness
Member
Having the disc in the tray or not is completely inconsequential imo, it really doesn't matter either way, not sure how it can considered 'huge' in any way.
theDeeDubs
Member
If that latest pastebin is true, consider me a MS guy next gen. It all sounds great. Always on will be worth it if I can install and play game without the disc.
Why is that so big? Not sure I follow.
Maybe more people are excited for that then I though.
Very true. I did it before and people picked the 16 cores CPU rumour.
Wanna get in touch with those fake insiders.
iceatcs
Want's to touch fake insiders
(Today, 03:08 PM)
I guess it's because it's convenient to just launch games without hassle, like we can with XBLA now? I don't care much about disc swapping, but I can see why one might think that way.
snoopeasystreet
Member
You can cycle through your games without having to get up and change discs. It's not that big of a deal but I'll admit there there have been occasions where I didn't play a game I wanted to because I was too tired to swap the discs.
theDeeDubs
Member
It's big for me because I want to have a big hdd full of instant on games to choose from. It gives me the advantages of being digital only while still having a physical copy as a backup.
Impeccable
Member
... what the fuck.
Insane.
While it's neat to have your games installed, it's not that big of a deal either way.
BlazingDarkness
Member
And that's a fair trade off for always online? *mind boggling*
Right, but how is that really any different than a DD platform? It's basically entering a code for a DD, except a lot faster on the install and doesn't suck up bandwidth. I agree that no discs could be awesome, but I already expected MS and Sony to both have day one DD, not to mention fully installable games.
Of course it's brilliant, not having to get up to change games, coupled with sitting on the couch, waving at the Kinect to order a pizza hut. It all sounds win win for me
snoopeasystreet
Member
Yeah, it's shameful but I doubt I'm the only one who has come home from work so knackered that I didn't want to get up again.
I never said that, it's just a nice feature. I'd rather have the console not always be online and not have this to be honest.
Me neither, the thought of it is just crazy. No idea how they would get through with this - their audience would shrink.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
First page of this thread said that
Not everyone have time read every pages of the thread
SniperHunter
Banned
you should do it just for the lolz
This would be the only way I would accept it. If they let us use the disc for authentication, similar to the current install model on the 360, I'd be fine with that.
Otherwise online required = you can go fuck yourself MS.
BruiserBear
Banned
Ask yourself how many people own Xbox 360's, play them regularly, and don't have them online.
That number is probably much smaller than you think, and Microsoft may see those customers are no big loss. Those people are also the least profitable customers.
I think I'm going to take a break from this rumor shit at least until we get an announcement of the unveil event. Having all these dozens of conflicting rumors every other day is for the birds.
Isn't that number 50%+ of 360 owners actually? Maybe not more than 50%, but I remember hearing it was somewhere around 50%, not sure if that means 45% or 55%.
Isn't that number 50%+ of 360 owners actually? Maybe not more than 50%, but I remember hearing it was somewhere around 50%, not sure if that means 45% or 55%.
at this point every rumor / leak from durango side.....could be fake...
ihmo also the vgleaks one is based on what? selfmade diagrams?
on vgleaks u can find also that pastebin (so seem legit to them) where we can read..that in every durango motherboard theres the 360 soc and it can work in parallel with the new soc....
a big thing that u cant find on the vgleaks durang diagram itself......so what?
too old durango diagram? implement a soc that work in parallel isnt something that u add the last 2 months lol ..........bs pastebin? bs diagram? bs everything?
i just know that more time pass and i less trust in the old theory 1.2tf vs 1.8tf
that to me..seeing both financial companies situatition was sounding at least crazy from the start
i dont know anymore ...
ps. sorry for my poor english
ihmo also the vgleaks one is based on what? selfmade diagrams?
on vgleaks u can find also that pastebin (so seem legit to them) where we can read..that in every durango motherboard theres the 360 soc and it can work in parallel with the new soc....
a big thing that u cant find on the vgleaks durang diagram itself......so what?
too old durango diagram? implement a soc that work in parallel isnt something that u add the last 2 months lol ..........bs pastebin? bs diagram? bs everything?
i just know that more time pass and i less trust in the old theory 1.2tf vs 1.8tf
that to me..seeing both financial companies situatition was sounding at least crazy from the start
i dont know anymore ...
ps. sorry for my poor english
Well said.
Small? Don't be naive.
Making the topic on NeoGAF is just feeding the troll.
The amount of extra processing power that adding a 360 SoC to the Durango would add is questionable, its no where near worth the cost, size, heat or power budget to add such a thing, it will be purely for B/C.
if pastebin is correct, there is absolutely no advantage buying a disc based 720 game.
except if your life depends on getting the game a little earlier at retail
constant internet connexion kills the idea it's benefitial buying a disc based version because of you may have bad/slow internet.
from the rumors I can't find a single advantage over PS4 that counts for me (Halo, what are we gonna do?)
Only thing I want from Sony is ability to rip games on the HDD, even though the console still requires a disc. it's just so much quieter.
except if your life depends on getting the game a little earlier at retail
constant internet connexion kills the idea it's benefitial buying a disc based version because of you may have bad/slow internet.
from the rumors I can't find a single advantage over PS4 that counts for me (Halo, what are we gonna do?)
Only thing I want from Sony is ability to rip games on the HDD, even though the console still requires a disc. it's just so much quieter.
Not sure why this requires a 'game-refuses-to-play-after-3-minutes-of-no-online' regime, which is the idea people have a problem with.
If I'm online, let me play a HDD-installed game without the disc with periodic online auth.
If I'm offline, don't let me play without the disc - but prompt me to insert the disc and let me continue playing!
So many of the ideas I see floated that would supposedly validate the kind of regime Kotaku rumoured are actually things that would work perfectly fine as an option when you are connected, without requiring the system to roll over and stop playing software completely when offline.
Vgleaks beefier Durango leaks are fo real - unfortunately their source decided to don't leak them stuff anymore.
They have to have that at this point, right? Would be silly not to do.
I could be wrong but I thought roughly half of the 360s are connected online. That's not small IMO.
buy retail discs with the inherent discounts they provide, install games and run them as easily and conveniently as though you bought them digitally. And no need to eat into your download cap
I never saw a leak from them that said the Durango got beefier, link?.
I meant the leaks which were multiple pages long with accurate diagrams and stuff...sorry
eg:http://www.vgleaks.com/durango-gpu-2/
Oh i getcha, beefier in regards to content.
Yeah they are most certainly real afaik, but they seriously suck at making diagrams at times
.I think it's a convenient idea, but I don't think it's something that requires the banishment of offline play.
I think it would be a nice optional feature to have for connected systems, but offering that feature doesn't preclude them from letting you play games offline. It's not a 'validation' for forced constant connectivity...there could be graceful degradation to disc-required play if offline.
if is right and the gflops xenon+xenos could do r 355
well yeah would be useless
but still coming back to the vgleaks diagram i dont find the soc ...and a soc isnt something that u thing to add the last months...so
or that vgleaks diagram is too old..coz we dont find an important piece like an entire soc..and everything could be changed
or the diagram is ok but ms is hiding stuffs....and as the 360soc could be everything else
or all the diagram and soc story is just bs...and we need to wait