Maybe this was his master plan? The fact that people latched on to his work for so long when he tried to tell them to sod off surely bothered him all these fifteen years.
It's a shame because I think Anno hasn't completely lost it as a director (aside from the obvious CGI abuse), but I fear his course of action with Rebuild was misguided. 3.33 feels to me like an exercise on trolling the hell out of the audience just for the sake of trolling the audience, but... not like End of Evangelion. It's difficult to explain.
totally felt like Eva. Then nothingness. Everyone's just really angry and shouting all the time. Maaya Sakamoto's character is a bigger waste of space than Touji and Kensuke combined.
tl;dr version: this is a terrible movie, for many reasons.
1. The story isn't worth discussing. It's just noise. One meaningless twist after one another. The characters mutter sephirotic babble mixed in with in-show jargon as things blow up and collapse and collide and it all means nothing. Nothing on the screen has any significance for the viewer.
2. People are going to tee off on the CG, and rightfully so for the most part (although there's a few cuts which I found to be pretty nice), but the mechanical design and color-work is so woeful that it was a doomed proposition from the start to make anything look good. These are some of the ugliest robots I've ever seen.
3. The action tends to be either uninteresting or incoherent. Sometimes it's a mixture of both, like the opening battle. Either way it's all horrible.
4. The sad part is that there are threads of what could have been a good movie--out of the ninety or so minutes of the film, there's about twelve minutes that are salvageable. Perhaps in a better world those scenes would have formed the basis for a better movie, the rest of the garbage left on the cutting floor, or better, scribbled off on the script.
5. This is a failure on almost every level. I'm one of those fools who actually liked the second movie, and yet, not only is this a departure from the TV series, it's a departure from the previous Rebuild movie, too. 2.22 was a perfectly enjoyable, if a bit dumb and ugly, movie; its main failure was in not living up the legacy set by its predecessors. 3.33's failure is in just being a fucking movie.
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For a mention of the few things I found to be 'good':
That ten or so minutes of interlude in between Shinji's "rescue" and his meeting, and playing a duet, with Kaworu. It's a somber, introspective sequence that takes advantage of old motifs for more than just fanfiction wank. There's also a nice scene with Rei. Mmm, Rei.
3.
Kaworu is an empty, meaningless shell of a character like everyone else in the movie, but at least the way he died was cool.
Another thing I appreciated was the stage-like setting of many of the scenes in
the NERV headquarters--it''s most noticeable in Fuyutsuki's conversation with Shinji. There's a feeling that it's all a masquerade, a play, and it pays off somewhat later on. The problem, though, is that you get the incredibly bad CGI trip-a-loo scene to cap it off, and none of the characters get enough development to actually take advantage of the framing.
It was that, as long as you view Shinji's harem as
Kaworu, an unrespondent Rei Ayanami and the everlasting awkward silence. Oh, and piano music.
FMP?F!! 2
This one was the one with the Health Teacher who hates Sagara and tries to sabotage the bake sale (Sousuke's oblivious admiration of the guy really sells that part of the whole thing,)
It was also the episode where Sousuke and Kaname go back to his apartment to retrieve the lost notes. Which is one of the things I best remember about Fumoffu, and also one of the reasons I feel its an essential watch for the series (as in nobody should ever skip directly over Fumoffu to The Second Raid). The series, in addition to being a great comedy, does a lot for Sousuke and Chidori's relationship, and helps to build up the tension in TSR and Sigma.
Also in this episode is the crazy psycho cop lady. She's important.
EDIT: I've said it before and I'll say it again: I utterly hate Kaworu. He's hands down the thing I hate most about Evangelion and ReBuild in particular, because he was in like, ONE episode in EVA, and all the yaoi fangirls over the years built him up to where he had all this build up going over two damn movies in ReBuild and then suddenly he is, as mentioned above, the same empty shell of a character.
5. This is a failure on almost every level. I'm one of those fools who actually liked the second movie, and yet, not only is this a departure from the TV series, it's a departure from the previous Rebuild movie, too. 2.22 was a perfectly enjoyable, if a bit dumb and ugly, movie; its main failure was in not living up the legacy set by its predecessors. 3.33's failure is in just being a fucking movie.
Sexy gratuitous teenagers in a showah! How old was the target audience of this show again? Nvm I just remembered all that fanservice in GGG. Still wasn't as good as Char in Garma's shower. Nothing will ever be that good.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaanyway, I cannot stand the English VA for Lelouch's little sister. Like seriously, it sounds like JYB is pinching his nose and doing the voice acting himself. It's just terrible in a way I hadn't expected this cast to be. Also, you cannot expect me to believe that the Japanese have a trademark on PINKY SWEARS. I mean yeah, how cool that the maid taught blind girl about origami, but now meido is spinnin' lies about PINKY SWEARS. Errybody knows Jesus invented the pinky swurr.
Also, love triangles. Blah. And Lelouch is straight up squandering his usage of the brain power. Thing.
However I will give special mention to one scene. I don't know if it's the TL inside me or what but this was really touching, and heavily reminiscent of the opener from Tsubasa. However poorly Tsubasa turned out, I will always fondly remember the first few pages with not!Sakura and not!Syaoran. Anyone who knows me knows that I have a thing for tragic love stories, so, if nothing else, Anno succeeded in invoking those feelings inside me.
Kaworu's character in the show was more about how it affected Shinji and gave him a fleeting bit of hope than whatever TL one can surmise from the ten or so minutes of actual screentime he had --it's why the revelation that he's the last angel works, as a betrayal to Shinji's character. Kaworu is mishandled in this movie: the bits with him bonding with Shinji are still there, but they do nothing with Shinji's character. Shinji's inability to stop and listen in this movie are in great part because of Kaworu's overtly cryptic dialogue. He throws out EVAbabble like crazy ("I'm the thirteenth angel, not the first angel!" "These are not the spears you are looking for") instead of trying to actually convince Shinji to stop doing what he's doing.
All in all, it feels like his character is wasted. He's just there to give the audience a brief on what happened in the fourteen year time-skip and to provide shock value when Misato (I assume it was Misato, they never show her pulling the trigger) kills him.
First off the episode synopsis and then the review for the show.
The (last) evil is gone with the help of the entire universe. Goku goes away with good Shenron to somewhere else, before he sets out he visits all of his old friends in the Kame house...
Krilin is really old and I dunno why, everyone else still looks young. Master Roshi was old when he first met Goku and Krilin and he is still standing. Shame he didn't visit Yamcha and Tien but they still saw Shenron flying away from earth.
Goku absorbs the dragon balls while they fly away. The episode concludes with an old Pan watching Goku junior and Vegeta junior fight at the martial arts tournament. Pan sees the real Goku in the crowd but he disappears before Pan can reach him. Is Goku an eternal being now? Maybe they could make a new series with the 2 juniors+Goku and bring back Dragon Ball.
DB GT was kinda enjoyable, it was fanservice. I really liked the black star dragonball saga. It was an humorous adventure story in search of the balls very reminiscent of the original DB. GT got downhill from the Baby saga, I was excited because Baby would be the first major villain and I assumed awesome fights would ensue, the signature elements of Dragon Ball. It didn't happen. The fights were really bad. The director failed to capture the suspense of Z. SS4 needed to be the epitome of strength, a power that we haven't seen before. He makes his debut but gets dominated, nothing is special about him. He doesn't even have aura. SS1 to SS3 transformations were all overwhelming.
The worst part of GT becomes even more apparent in the following sagas. I just can't believe how terrible the fights were, they fucked up the best DB can offer.
I first watched the original FMA last year. Along with the first film, that's been my only experience with the franchise. I haven't read the original manga so I don't have any info on when this deviates from the original show and to where. I attempted to watch this previously but going from the climax of the original show to retreading early ground isn't really an option. There were other issues as well but I'll bring those up later.
I'm watching the english dub, because that's how I watched the original.
I'll start with the OP. Going off recollection this is better than the OPs from the original but it has the same problems as well. They had great songs and were quite pretty, this one even more so, but the movements and actions of the characters in the OP are mostly standard. Panning shots, rotating shots, characters sitting, running shots, sudden close ups, some action interspersed. It's all so standard. The only thing really differentiating it from any other fantasy anime OP is the characters. It does have a nice song though.
Deciding on what to do with the first episode was a tough decision. The original opening episode was absolutely fantastic, one of the best. So retreading the same ground from the get go wouldn't be a wise move, but a new opening episode probably wouldn't live up to the first as well. But at least you're giving the viewer something new from the get go.
The most striking thing about returning to the beginnings of the story is the return of the "comedy faces and expressions" I was never a fan of them in the original show either. They always felt so out of place, but now even more so as my view of the FMA world has been changed from the later episodes of the original. They also seem more frequent and intense in BroHo.
I'll leave the other general show problems for later episodes though. Let's get on to this episode itself. We see the introduction of Freezer, who seems to exist to show off some of the plot points of the show early, most of which were unnecessary. Was it really necessary to introduce the Crimson Alchemist so early? I guess I'll see if his story is paced differently. And what about (LATE FMA SPOILERS)
hinting at the Fuhrer's secret? Why was that necessary? I enjoyed the Fuhrer because his jolly attitude was what defined him, but now I'd already be doubting him if I were watching this first.
The new introduction of Hughes to the Elrics and the viewers is so much worse than the original. The train episode really set up Hughes as someone you could depend on. While he probably couldn't match up to an experienced alchemist, he'd give it his all when he was called upon and it was a solid foundation for his relationship with the brothers. In BroHo we see him bumble in and invite the brothers to stay at his. There are some other changes too. His daughter is already born, so there goes the hilarious birthing episode and instead we have annoying VO in its place.
There's actually quite a few problems I have with the VO, but I'll save them for later.
Also the brothers are no longer at the Tucker's place. I don't know what this means for the best subplot of the original show.
Highlight of the episode was seeing Armstrong again. Always good to see his fabulous muscles. Until I get to the point where the stories deviate I think I'll probably be compelled to nitpick all the changes, differences and inconsistencies as they arise. Sigh, I thought if I waited this long I'd avoid that but nope.
ED was really nice looking. Wasn't crazy about the song, but the crayon-like visual style was impressive and had some real character.
Kaworu's character in the show was more about how it affected Shinji and gave him a fleeting bit of hope than whatever TL one can surmise from the ten or so minutes of actual screentime he had --it's why the revelation that he's the last angel works, as a betrayal to Shinji's character. Kaworu is mishandled in this movie: the bits with him bonding with Shinji are still there, but they do nothing with Shinji's character. Shinji's inability to stop and listen in this movie are in great part because of Kaworu's overtly cryptic dialogue. He throws out EVAbabble like crazy ("I'm the thirteenth angel, not the first angel!" "These are not the spears you are looking for") instead of trying to actually convince Shinji to stop doing what he's doing.
All in all, it feels like his character is wasted. He's just there to give the audience a brief on what happened in the fourteen year time-skip and to provide shock value when Misato (I assume it was Misato, they never show her pulling the trigger) kills him.
I think you quoted the wrong part, or you're doing some very drastic inferring, or you're replying to my entire post and just cutting it down for other people's sake.
Please to be clarifying.
By the time Kaworu started talking about the two spears I wasn't even thinking anymore. Just enjoying the pretty lights and TL. The "I'm the first angel!!!!" didn't register at all, and as far as I can tell, Shinji was just as bemused as I was.
The current integration of social media in anime seems pretty heavy handed. Watching the protagonist(s) get pummeled loses a lot of impact when the chat goes "wwwwwwwwwwwww".
totally felt like Eva. Then nothingness. Everyone's just really angry and shouting all the time. Maaya Sakamoto's character is a bigger waste of space than Touji and Kensuke combined.
I'm wondering how bad the Third Impact really was. I mean, everyone in NERV survived although the city went poof. I'm sure the rest of the world is fine as well.
Unless it magically spare Misato and co but devastated the rest of the world.
Geofront was always pretty resilient. I'm gonna fanwank here and say that, after Shinji dived into Zeruel's core or whatever, Third Impact began above Geofront (as in, the explosions part), and that everyone inside the facilities survived because, I don't know, the thick layering?
it honestly didn't amount to much and Rebuild as a whole could have worked perfectly without it! Even the 13 minutes of screentime he got in the TV show felt more worthwhile in terms of how it affected Shinji's character.
I think you quoted the wrong part, or you're doing some very drastic inferring, or you're replying to my entire post and just cutting it down for other people's sake.
Please to be clarifying.
By the time Kaworu started talking about the two spears I wasn't even thinking anymore. Just enjoying the pretty lights and TL. The "I'm the first angel!!!!" didn't register at all, and as far as I can tell, Shinji was just as bemused as I was.
I think I'm starting to feel the hate, so that's why my brain is not reading well. lol
What I tried to say is that the scene didn't touch me at all for all the reasons I've already written. You can't expect me to feel anything when something like that happens without any actual character ground to base it on.
Krilin is really old and I dunno why, everyone else still looks young. Master Roshi was old when he first met Goku and Krilin and he is still standing.
They actually mentioned back in Dragon Ball that Master Roshi drank some immortal elixir so that he'd never die from old age. Turtle brought this point up when he tried to play the "please grant this dying old man one last request" routine on a girl.
More [Eva 3.33] shit, I'll be doing this all night:
Geofront was always pretty resilient. I'm gonna fanwank here and say that, after Shinji dived into Zeruel's core or whatever, Third Impact began above Geofront (as in, the explosions part), and that everyone inside the facilities survived because, I don't know, the thick layering?
Eva 3.33 basically expects you to refer to the TV series and EoE for backgrounds on the character and development. They then proceed to shit on all of it after establishing this.
Eva 3.33 basically expects you to refer to the TV series and EoE for backgrounds on the character and development. They then proceed to shit on all of it after establishing this.
I can see 4.0's plot already: 14 years even later, after a lot of shit didn't happen nope I don't know what you're talking about, we come to the conclusion of the story.
did happen (you can see 06 going down Central Dogma to spear Lilith with the Lance of Cassius), it just didn't happen on-screen! So 2+8 is probably still a thing.
No, the anime covered 10 out of 20 manga volumes. And yeah, One Outs is more in the vein of gambling manga/anime such as Kaiji, with big stakes and battles of wit, than a standard sports series. The baseball diamond just happens to be the playing field. The manga author went on to write the straight up gambling series Lair Game.
I didn't hate 3.33 as much as some here, but that might be because, like Blood-C: The Last Dark, my lack of comprehension let me assume that the things being said were more interesting than they actually were.
But it probably says a lot about the failures of the movie that I managed to watch the entire thing without realizing that
14 full years had passed between Rebuilds 2 and 3
. I found the alienation and emptiness that Shinji experiences pretty effective and unique, and the cinema spectacle was entertaining on its own. But there's a lot of things that happen which don't have much meaning or significance, and most of the cast is poorly served.
They actually mentioned back in Dragon Ball that Master Roshi drank some immortal elixir so that he'd never die from old age. Turtle brought this point up when he tried to play the "please grant this dying old man one last request" routine on a girl.
I really don't like how they handled this episode. They're showing all these things that were very mysterious in the original. They didn't need to show
what was behind the door, why Ed doesn't need a transmutation circle and Wrath so early or explicitly.
Also the reveal of their mother was a lot more creepy and atmospheric in the original.
The trial was also a lot less impressive. All he did was create a polearm! That doesn't hold a candle to the original exam.
I don't want to be too negative on this show. But when you decide to do something like this it opens itself up for criticism.
I don't know if anyone has warned you, but Brotherhood doesn't really pick up until it deviates from the first series. I don't know if you want to know where it starts to deviate, but until then the show isn't really that great. Also, as you noted in your Brotherhood 1 post, the tone of Brotherhood is a bit different from the first FMA.
Not a fan of the hard colouring on display here. It's very much a personal preference but I feel it makes it look cheap. The colouring in the original wasn't mind blowing or anything but it was a lot softer and more detailed than this. There was also a real lack of animation for most of the show. It's a real shame.
Ed still acts like an atheist off Reddit in this episode. Probably his douchiest moment.
Changing the attitude of the Father's disciples was interesting. I think I prefer him
being ignorant to Cornello's true intentions
but it was an interesting decision that didn't feel totally worse.
They excluded the
parrot man and the battle against the statue
but added
a battle against hulked up Cornello.
Probably would have been cool if it was animated. People called the new JJBA's animation bad, some of this stuff is on the same level. But at least JJBA had all the great colouring that suited the material, this...
I suppose I'll see how they handle one of the best subplots next episode. I'm not optimistic.
I don't know if anyone has warned you, but Brotherhood doesn't really pick up until it deviates from the first series. I don't know if you want to know where it starts to deviate, but until then the show isn't really that great. Also, as you noted in your Brotherhood 1 post, the tone of Brotherhood is a bit different from the first FMA.
I figured. I'll still watch it anyway out of curiosity. I assume this was some people's entry into the series so I'd like to see what they gained/missed.
I actually enjoyed 3.33. It's a terrible film, inspired film, beautiful film, disgusting film. Everything an Eva movie should be, I think. I have no idea how to really critique Eva films. I agree with nearly every praise and criticism I've read about it.
Also, I watched the first three episodes of Aku no Hana and holy fuck. I love everything about it.
I probably should detail what I hated about this movie since I loved 2.22.
First the soundtrack. Way too bombastic and loud. There was only one piece near the very end of the film and the credits music that I liked. The rest is too 'blare as loud as possible' in the most obvious way possible. For example, the first fight scene with the battleship. I really don't care if it's a reference to a Nadia theme, I don't think it was a good fit at all. It's really weird as I like normally loud soundtracks but I don't think it worked at all here.
The CGI is bad in general and used all over the place. Like it's just a fucking mess. The only time it was used semi-decently is the first part of the final battle. The rest is way too floaty and is just a bunch of dog shit smeared on a screen. The first battle and second battle in particular are really awful.
The characters all had offscreen development and they don't bother to fill in the audience or Shinji. You want to care about the characters? Well go fuck yourself. Then how about the forced character regression in order to make the plot work? I imagine Anno twirling some wine around and saying "Shinji looks too happy. Let's make this fucker be suicidal". So despite Misato cheering on Shinji at the end of 2.22, we now have a Misato that is icecold to Shinji despite following her advice and won't just explain anything to him. It's also like they ripped off of Gendo's personality in order to make the new Misato. A perfect example of the lack of character interaction is when on the battleship after the battle, when Shinji gets a few answer, they don't show his face in seeing Misato again or his reaction. They just have a bunch of CGI models on screen while they give an exposition dump. It's flat out bad storytelling. The only character who had any value is Kaworu because they spent time fleshing out they dynamic between him and Shinji. They might as well killed off Rei for all the good she is now.
As for the narrative, it's a bunch of jargon waved across the screen in the hopes that a few people could follow along. Nobody bothers to fill Shinji in, so surprise motherfucker! The kid makes some bad calls when he has incomplete information. The movie didn't make me hate Shinji but all the dumb assholes that populate that universe. Maybe if somebody bothered to fill in the kid, shit like 4th Impact could have been prevented but nope. We need that plot progression.
So now that she knows about the moonshine I wonder if they never address it or not because it would be weird if she found out on an extra episode and they had treated it like she'd already found out.
TL inside me or what but this was really touching, and heavily reminiscent of 
