I never said it was overpriced. Just explaining his reasoning.
No one's going to go over $500 next generation.
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I never said it was overpriced. Just explaining his reasoning.
No one's going to go over $500 next generation.
That's what I think as well, but I really don't know what to believe at this point.
No sense in getting worked up when we're going to know less from a month from now though.
I remember 299 & 399 to be honest in my country.
it just further perpetuates this negative narrative being unfurled before their eyes. Why they wouldn't clarify it with a controlled leak once and for all through a mouth piece like a Paul Thurrot, Major Nelson or perhaps to better effect Polygon, is beyond me.
It's a stink they can't shake and maybe there's a very good reason for that *sniff*sniff*
Sho_Nuff82
Member
Been an Xbox consumer since 2003. I'm in the same boat. Your move MS.
We won't know exactly what it means until Microsoft unveil the console of course, but it's more about the way it is worded than anything else. "Must be internet-connected to use" suggests more than simply needing an internet connection for Xbox Live.
This may be the first console in quite some time that I don't actually want as soon as it launches. I've not used my Xbox 360 in a few weeks now, the last two console games I bought (TR and Bioshock Infinite) I got for the PS3.
PS4 is really appealing to me, but I'll reserve judgement for this until I see it.
PS4 is really appealing to me, but I'll reserve judgement for this until I see it.
Napalm_Frank
Member
Zomgbbqftws company had made calculations about PS4 manufacturing cost and it was about 450-490$ few months ago so under 500 is definately not impossible. Especially if the parts go down in cost fast.
Tretton also confirmed it won't be another 599 and I think it was Yoshida who said they target a bigger audience with pricing than PS3 at launch (duh). 500 is the max, not the min.
Tretton also confirmed it won't be another 599 and I think it was Yoshida who said they target a bigger audience with pricing than PS3 at launch (duh). 500 is the max, not the min.
dreamer3kx
Member
Im not buying a console at $500, now way, just too much, hopefully sony prices at $400.
I've set aside 500 bucks for a console this fall, but yeah, if the $499 price is true for Next Xboxt that means we are all paying for Kinect 2.0 in every box. I don't know if I want to be spending additional money on a piece of hardware I just don't want. I hope Sony doesn't force their camera on the end user as well.
Latvian Hitman
Member
Trusting a Microsoft OS to keep my console safe in an "always online" environment sounds like a shaky proposition to me...
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Well there were (maybe) controlled leak from vgleaks
ElRenoRaven
Member
This morning. My xbox 360 in fact.
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Holy Crap this blew up in the time I was on the reply screen. Damn work making me do things while actually posting.
You have to register your content with Steam (which happens automatically when you buy games online). Once you have done that, you can start "offline" mode giving you access to all your games - obviously excluding all online features like multiplayer and friendslists.
That means: You have to have Steam online at least once for each new content you buy, but after that could go offline.
From what I heard, Sony Cam comes in the box too, but isnt mandatory
FantasticMrFoxdie
Mumber
$299 launch "price" could sell like hotcakes, but if 'Always-Online' that would be turrible.
Rebel Leader
THE POWER OF BUTTERSCOTCH BOTTOMS
if they did change... it's bad remember what happened when they rushed the 360
The Wii U is a $175 system with a $125 controller and a $50 surcharge for the glossy black color. Much of that $175 is parts that aren't much cheaper for Wii U than the HD Twins Electric Boogaloo: your BD-ROM drive, your casing, your HDMI hardware, your wifi, etc.
At 499 $ I prefer to reserve my money, ps4 included. No way in this time I will pay this money. I don't know what this company thinking but a console at 499 bunks is send to dead for the first years. We are not in 2006 again, world economy is a disaster, the vg market is decreased. No way to hell to save the market with those price.
eighty(one)
Member
Which is exactly why I hesitate to own the 360 successor - for all of Sony's casual antics (Move and Wonderbook), they didn't push those to the front end like MS did with Kinect.
To me it's all really about the gaming experiences, and MS has been neglecting that end for the past few years. Gears, Forza and Halo aren't enough for me - not when I look at the Sony stable of IPs.
Ultimately, I worry that MS will feign their love of gamers - only to follow the same 360 strategy and pretty much ignore them after a few years, to go after mainstream multimedia entertainment...which is not what I want from a gaming system. I have more faith in Sony, staying with gaming IPs, than I do MS.
I hope MS can WOW people and have sincerity toward gaming, but I'm doubtful.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Wired they don't treat it as fact now,something maybe changed
Yet, these nasty always-on/DRM/anti-used games rumors have come back with a vengeance and frequency.
hydrophilic attack
Member
Regarding the price:
Remember that Sony sell a lot of consoles in Europe where they can shaft us over the price and make up some of the money lost on a low US price. The next Xbox, on the other hand, will likely be dead on arrival in Europe, especially if rumours are true. So Microsoft needs a higher price in the only market they are viable.
Remember that Sony sell a lot of consoles in Europe where they can shaft us over the price and make up some of the money lost on a low US price. The next Xbox, on the other hand, will likely be dead on arrival in Europe, especially if rumours are true. So Microsoft needs a higher price in the only market they are viable.
RyanReedyMusic
Banned
All Im saying is MS has a lot to prove.
Please explain how "always online" can not be as draconian as many seem to believe.
A $500 tablet is cheap compared to the competition. Laptops.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
But you trust Sony? Even after their not always online system was rawdogged by hackers?
I just played my Wii U.
fastford58
Member
What do you want to bet that after the official MS pr event that the always online thing will still be confusing? They won't even mention it directly.
BruiserBear
Banned
I'm now convinced that Microsoft is leaking some bullshit to make things seem better when they're finally revealed.
I'm inclined to believe the always online and always Kinect rumors are true. We've seen too much evidence at this point.
But, $500 as a standard price? lol no
That's just a setup for everyone to be excited that it's got a starting price of $350 or something like that.
I'm inclined to believe the always online and always Kinect rumors are true. We've seen too much evidence at this point.
But, $500 as a standard price? lol no
That's just a setup for everyone to be excited that it's got a starting price of $350 or something like that.
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
And kotaku changed,again
"What We're Not Sure About The Next Xbox
That it requires an "always-online" internet connection. This one's strange. We've heard from some sources that the console will definitely need to be online to start playing games. Others have said this isn't the case. Some are even suggesting that it's the console's entertainment and TV capabilities that will need this, not your games. Because of this confusion, it goes in the maybe pile."
Seems the 180 turn and turn and turn won't end until May 21
Built-in 3G? I don't see it happening, but it's the only way to even make it kinda not bullshit.
The 360 has a "Microsoft OS"... just sayin.
RyanReedyMusic
Banned
Good call. I can see that happening easily.
demosthenes
Member
That's not the question I want to answer.
The question I want to answer is when have I had gaming sessions interrupted by Time Warner Cable and internet problems? I'm going to say at least 20 times in the past 2 years.
GoofsterStud
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Deleted member 47027
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Yes, MS really needs to be crystal clear on this or else C-L-U-S-T-E-R-F-U-C-K as DigitalOp put it.
Good idea in theory, but wouldn't work in many places (e.g. basements.)
MaulerX
Member
That latest VGleaks article was more than a controlled leak imo. It went into high detail and it conveniently came after the "Sweet Billy" fiasco.
I have a feeling we won't know absolutely everything until November a week or two before it launches.
I'm not that sure what it has to do this with always online in the next xbox, really :\
If it goes on up to the eleventh hour with some wishy-washy pr double speak not clarifying the issue, then fuck them, fuck right off.