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[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Yep, it's not a Move only title.

Yes, it's not going to be a Move-only game, I'm fully aware of that, but it's obvious that their whole approach is currently centered around the Move. Likewise, I expect most Kinect uses on the next Xbox to be optional and/or supplemental to the basic experience.

 

[Nestunt]

To me this is damage control for the 21st

tuesday we will see mainly non-game related stuff

 

[Rad-]

To me this is damage control for the 21st

tuesday we will see mainly non-game related stuff

Could be but it won't be that big of a deal as E3 is so close.

And to add, I think Infinity is a really stupid name if true.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Yes, it's not going to be a Move-only game, I'm fully aware of that, but it's obvious that their whole approach is currently centered around the Move. Likewise, I expect most Kinect uses on the next Xbox to be optional and/or supplemental to the basic experience.

Ah, okay. I see where you're going. Better with Move, etc, etc.

Seems possible, what they showed did look like it would be ultimately work better with Move. Saying that, the touchpad might be able to replicate some of those better with move features.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

To me this is damage control for the 21st

tuesday we will see mainly non-game related stuff

I don't think anyone realistically expected them to blow their entire load at this reveal when E3 is so close.

There will be teasers, sizzle reels, announcements of announcements, etc.

 

[Dusky]

You know I've just realised that most the third party exclusives are from rumours. What are we going to do when Sony and MS turn up and the most they have is exclusive DLC. We better not take rumours as facts to avoid disappointments.

They are rumours but some of them are very strong rumours. It's not like MS trying to secure third-party exclusives is new, MS will come out all guns blazing that you can be sure of.

 

[Impeccable]

They are rumours but some of them are very strong rumours. It's not like MS trying to secure third-party exclusives is new, MS will come out all guns blazing that you can be sure of.

So far all we know is that it's Microsoft and Respawn versus Sony and Square-Enix.

I doubt it goes much beyond that and maybe some DLC timed exclusivity sprinkled in.

 

[Rolf NB]

I'm sure we'll see a lot of exclusives at E3. Maybe even a couple Xbox exclusives.

 

[Wolfie5]

Sounds like there will be a few teasers for some games, Call of Duty 10 min on-stage demo and the rest is vision for the next xbox and its features.

Expecting:

Start talking about success of X360 and Live talk for 5 min.
Reveal next XBOX and show the console with gamepad. Some hardware specs maybe.
Talk about online stuff. Don´t always have to be online gets confirmed. Trailer showing some games 10 min.
Tech Demos.
One new IP announcement.
Kinect 2 stuff. 10-20 minutes.
Celebrity comes in and talks/sings. 5-10 min.
On-stage COD demo. 10 min.
End with teaser for Halo 5.
Wait for E3 for lots of exclusives.

1 hour long reveal over.

 

[Omnistalgic]

I hope they come out swinging and really make the next few months a hell of a fight for the right reasons; not brand loyalty, but strong first party support, feature support, and technology. Would love to see some new first party IPs.

I really hope we don't see a bunch of money-hatting. It would be a huge shame to see MS buying exclusivity rights to a bunch of games rather than attempting to support their system with their own titles. (And I mean that for anyone paying for exclusivity deals, though I'm talking about full on game exclusivity, not timed exclusivity of DLC or other tertiary things that aren't as important.) We'll see though. I hope MS uses more than their checkbook to make the next xbox a compelling purchase.

thank you...I don't get how some posters are happy about the prospect of MS coming out and money hatting everything just to one-up the competition. That's the last company I want to support if the bulk of their exclusives are a result of marketing deals or time exclusives. Destiny and CoD exclusives maps and DLC stuff aside, this fragmentation of the third party titles is annoying. So I hope MS can simply play up it's own strengths this gen.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

I'm sure we'll see a lot of exclusives at E3. Maybe even a couple Xbox exclusives.

I expect to see COD: Ghosts (OBV not an exclusive...Or is it?) and a couple more maybe. Then Sony and MS go head-to-head with games properly at E3.

 

[gofreak]

I don't think anyone realistically expected them to blow their entire load at this reveal when E3 is so close.

There will be teasers, sizzle reels, announcements of announcements, etc.

I think they'll do some deeper presentations on a few games. IIRC Greenberg did previously say they'd be announcing and showing games at this event as well.

 

[kittoo]

Did we get a confirmation that Respawn's game in exclusive?
Also, why are people saying that Respawn's game will for sure outsell any Sony exclusive? Very few people outside GAF know or care that the game is made by ex-Infinity ward. The game will stand completely on it's own legs.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

Isn't MS Victoria Kinect-focused? Their job hirings seem to indicate that.

Nobody knows what they're working on at this point.

Lionhead is 2 teams now? That's good to know. Hopefully they start to put out some quality titles now that Molyneux is gone.
Is their an actual source to them being 2 teams or is this is just assumed through job hirings?

Lionhead has had 2 or more teams for ages now, back in the day they were working on Fable, The Movies and Black & White 2 simultaneously. In one of the Fable 2 development diaries they're taking us through their building and telling us that the Fable team occupies one floor, but there are two more (the other floor was probably occupied by the team experimenting with Project Dimitri/Milo and Kate at the time, and the top floor was perhaps reserved for management and their Central Technology Group, which was also introduced in one of the diaries).

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I think they'll do some deeper presentations on a few games. IIRC Greenberg did previously say they'd be announcing and showing games at this event as well.

Ghosts will probably get a gameplay presentation to show off the visual improvements and any new features.

I expect they'll also show a racer/PGR5 with maybe a short demo and maybe a RARE title, but that's pretty much all I'm expecting outside of teasers, announcements of announcements and maybe a sizzle reel teasing their E3 presser.

 

[BigTnaples]

Between the PS4 and all of its great launch games, plus Durango and assuming some awesome games, plus a possible PC upgrade (If AMD's new hotness is released), this fall is going to wipe my wallet off the face of the planet.

 

[KAL2006]

Yes, it's not going to be a Move-only game, I'm fully aware of that, but it's obvious that their whole approach is currently centered around the Move. Likewise, I expect most Kinect uses on the next Xbox to be optional and/or supplemental to the basic experience.

No you are wrong, it is not centered around Move, the core game you use traditional controls, for the creation aspect you use Move for sculpting I even read they will have an option for you.to sculpt with dual shock as well, but it is obvious Media Moleculesgames is a core game. As ffor optional Kinect games I listed those in my list, titles such as Ruse are included. I didn't include full blown Kinect only games as well as Move games. Im talking on rails games, mini game collections, fitness games and etc.

 

[Tomcat]

Did we get a confirmation that Respawn's game in exclusive?
Also, why are people saying that Respawn's game will for sure outsell any Sony exclusive? Very few people outside GAF know or care that the game is made by ex-Infinity ward. The game will stand completely on it's own legs.

the marketing will make sure every will learn this

 

[Thorgal]

Did we get a confirmation that Respawn's game in exclusive?
Also, why are people saying that Respawn's game will for sure outsell any Sony exclusive? Very few people outside GAF know or care that the game is made by ex-Infinity ward. The game will stand completely on it's own legs.

it's people waving their flags for their favourite console while giving the bird to the compettition.

its sad to see. really.

 

[Dusky]

So far all we know is that it's Microsoft and Respawn versus Sony and Square-Enix.

I doubt it goes much beyond that and maybe some DLC timed exclusivity sprinkled in.

I'd say Remedy are a very strong candidate, due to the Alan Wake series and their close relationship with MS.
MS aren't about to let to of the Gears series so I would say you could count Epic in too. Recent job hirings also suggest MS are strengthening their relationship with Epic.
There are also the PGR5 rumours that are linked to Lucid, I think it's pretty certain based off the dedicated thread for PGR5.

As for Sony I expect them to secure less third-party exclusives, but I'd say it's a given that Ready at Dawn and Square Enix are both making something exclusively for PS4.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

I hope MS do let the Gears go or at least put it on the backburner for a few years. While some might not agree, it's gotten progressively worse with each entry and I'd hate to see to run completely into the ground.

Same with Uncharted, Halo, and God of War. These IP need to be put on the backburner for at least 2-3 years.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

I didn't include full blown Kinect only games as well as Move games. Im talking on rails games, mini game collections, fitness games and etc.

So are you telling me that games like The Gunstringer and Sin and Punishment are not "core games" because they're on rails and use motion controls? What about Time Crisis, House of the Dead, Panzer Dragoon, Rez?

 

[Hindle]

Repeating what I posted in the Xbox reveal thread.

Microsoft letting Insomniac make a character platformer would be a great decision IMO. For all the critiscm that studio gets, Ratchet and Clank has been such a great series over the last few years. MS getting a spiritual sequel would be a massive coup.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Repeating what I posted in the Xbox reveal thread.

Microsoft letting Insomniac make a character platformer would be a great decision IMO. For all the critiscm that studio gets, Ratchet and Clank has been such a great series over the last few years. MS getting a spiritual sequel would be a massive coup.

Repeating my reply as that thread has descended into spec garbage again...

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2, from the creators of Ratchet and Clank.

Could be great...

 

[Zeppelin]

Why are you narrowing exclusives to being timed? Of course new Xbox will have its exclusives, just like PS4 has DriveClub, Knack, KZ, infamous etc.

Experience from this past generation? MS is not even close to having the the same first party infrastructure as Sony does.

 

[V_Ben]

Repeating what I posted in the Xbox reveal thread.

Microsoft letting Insomniac make a character platformer would be a great decision IMO. For all the critiscm that studio gets, Ratchet and Clank has been such a great series over the last few years. MS getting a spiritual sequel would be a massive coup.

I highly doubt that MS would fund a new character platformer. I'd expect a spiritual successor to Resistance, or a third person action adventure title.

Of course, if the Insomniac stuff does happen, and MS own the IP, then Ted Price will have some explaining to do.

Edit: I fully expect 'exclusives' to not just mean games too. Apps, things like Skype, that sort of stuff.

 

[Hindle]

Repeating my reply as that thread has descended into spec garbage again...

Conker's Bad Fur Day 2, from the creators of Ratchet and Clank.

Could be great...

That would be awesome. If they can partner with the key staff who made the original then even more so. A Conker sequel would need witty writing and Insominac proved they can make a witty character with Clank.

 

[Canis lupus]

Experience from this past generation? MS is not even close to having the the same first party infrastructure as Sony does.

They opened a shit ton of new studios though. I guess in addition to that they might secure some 3rd party exclusive in the caliber of Mass Effect.

 

[Steverulez]

Edit: I fully expect 'exclusives' to not just mean games too. Apps, things like Skype, that sort of stuff.

Microsoft tend not to own the IPs they publish for devs they don't own - Gears, Mass Effect being two of them, big games. PGR was co-owned I think until Bizarre got bought? Or maybe just some of their patents were.

Thing is, Sony publish a lot more games than MS do (certainly in retail space) but Microsoft focus more on less game, hoping they go big and put more stock behind those few games.. I wouldn't be entirely surprised to see Insomniac do an MS exclusive but im not expecting it.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

I'm pretty sure Insomniac should be working on a new Ratchet and Clank for the PS4. Thats what their fans want. I miss the rivalry/ relationship Insomniac had with ND. Their easter eggs in each other games always made me smile.

 

[Phonomezer]

No you are wrong, it is not centered around Move, the core game you use traditional controls, for the creation aspect you use Move for sculpting I even read they will have an option for you.to sculpt with dual shock as well, but it is obvious Media Moleculesgames is a core game. As ffor optional Kinect games I listed those in my list, titles such as Ruse are included. I didn't include full blown Kinect only games as well as Move games. Im talking on rails games, mini game collections, fitness games and etc.

Marketing for Destiny has "from the creators of Halo" all over it, don't see why Respawn's game wouldn't say the same about CoD.

As for sales... who knows. It'd help if we saw whether the game was good or not first

 

[Hindle]

I highly doubt that MS would fund a new character platformer. I'd expect a spiritual successor to Resistance, or a third person action adventure title.

Of course, if the Insomniac stuff does happen, and MS own the IP, then Ted Price will have some explaining to do.

Edit: I fully expect 'exclusives' to not just mean games too. Apps, things like Skype, that sort of stuff.

I'd say MS have been looking at all the money Ratchet made Sony over the last decade and it's plausible they'd think, we need some of that.

They are lacking in the character action/platformer genre as well.

At the same time I can't see Insomniac making another exclusive again.

Edit. It's clear they love being independent.

 

[HollovVpo1nt]

I just realised, if MS is on a 2/3 year 'major Halo' schedule (2012 Halo 4, 2010 Reach, 2007 Halo 3), I guess there will be a Halo announcement this E3 right? Or we'll get a Halo 2 anniversary is 2014 and Halo 5 in 2015.

 

[V_Ben]

I'd say MS have been looking at all the money Ratchet made Sony over the last decade and it's plausible they'd think, we need some of that.

They are lacking in the character action/platformer genre as well.

At the same time I can't see Insomniac making another exclusive again.

Edit. It's clear they love being independent.

I dunno, MS tried character platformers last gen with Kameo and Banjo.. not sure they'd want to make another now

That's my line of thinking also. Ted Price seemed to be very clear in saying that from R3 onwards, they wanted to own the IP they created. Which seems fair. So an exclusive game from them in a new franchise would be entirely against his words.

 

[KAL2006]

So are you telling me that games like The Gunstringer and Sin and Punishment are not "core games" because they're on rails and use motion controls? What about Time Crisis, House of the Dead, Panzer Dragoon, Rez?

If you want to inflate the list with Twisted Pixel, Rare kinect team and etc be my guest I personally don't see them as system sellers I would never put a dev like Twisted Pixel near a dev like 343 and Naughty Dog. MS fans seem to love listing every small dev to inflate the list, could do exact the same with Sony with devs like Zindagi, Giant Sparrow and etc. But personally it makes the list inflated and hard to spot the games that people buy consoles for. And yes games like Rez and Guntringer are hard core games but I would never pay full price or buy a system for games like that over Halo and Uncharted.

 

[StuBurns]

I don't think that's likely at all. Just because of the tech demo, doesn't mean the actual game will require the Move, it would mean killing the sales potential.

I think that's extremely likely and that you should watch their part of the conference again. In fact, I'd go as far as to say that suggesting anything else after witnessing their presentation is ludicrous and borders on wishful thinking.

I think you need to inform yourself first.


http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=555720

Yes, it's not going to be a Move-only game

So which is it? I said it's not move required, you said I'm wrong, now you're saying you know it's not move only too, make your mind up.

 

[Hindle]

I dunno, MS tried character platformers last gen with Kameo and Banjo.. not sure they'd want to make another now

That's my line of thinking also. Ted Price seemed to be very clear in saying that from R3 onwards, they wanted to own the IP they created. Which seems fair. So an exclusive game from them in a new franchise would be entirely against his words.

I'd think they'd keep the IP but as long as MS supplied the money the series would stay Durango exclusive. It's the same arrangement MS have with Epic, and Respawn if the rumours turn out to be true.

 

[Dusky]

I dunno, MS tried character platformers last gen with Kameo and Banjo.. not sure they'd want to make another now

That's my line of thinking also. Ted Price seemed to be very clear in saying that from R3 onwards, they wanted to own the IP they created. Which seems fair. So an exclusive game from them in a new franchise would be entirely against his words.

Well yes and no. Insomniac could make an exclusive for Durango and yet retain the IP, MS do this with several third-parties.

EDIT: Beaten.

 

[REMEMBER CITADEL]

So which is it? I said it's not move required, you said I'm wrong, now you're saying you know it's not move only too, make your mind up.

Sorry for the confusion. When I said I believed it would be a Move game, I didn't necessarily mean Move-only. You said you thought that to be unlikely, and that's what I responded to.

And by the way, just because their next game may not be Move-only, that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't require the Move.

 

[show me your skeleton]

SO FUCKING HYPED.

 

[V_Ben]

Well yes and no. Insomniac could make an exclusive for Durango and yet retain the IP, MS do this with several third-parties.

EDIT: Beaten.

Ah, well then that seems reasonable. Only way they could logically justify it, if they do go down that route

 

[StuBurns]

Sorry for the confusion. When I said I believed it would be a Move game, I didn't necessarily mean Move-only. You said you thought that to be unlikely, and that's what I responded to.

And by the way, just because their next game may not be Move-only, that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't require the Move.

It will not require a Move.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Repeating what I posted in the Xbox reveal thread.

Microsoft letting Insomniac make a character platformer would be a great decision IMO. For all the critiscm that studio gets, Ratchet and Clank has been such a great series over the last few years. MS getting a spiritual sequel would be a massive coup.

Ratchet series is still owned by Sony and apparently not dead...I don't see why a team at Insomniac wouldn't just make another Ratchet game if they had a cool idea in the platform genre, it's not like there relationship with Sony is sour.

If anything, I think they would do something completely new for MS, and even then an exclusive isn't likely...This is why I keep saying I can't support MS if they don't build there own studios. I'm not down for fragmenting 3rd parties again with money hatting, just distinguish your console with your own services and titles, and let 3rd parties choose who they like the best.

MS may have won the U.S and have plenty of cash reserves, but they have a lot to prove in my eyes. PS3 swan song year looks absolutely fantastic, and that's because Sony invest in studios. MS has the amount of cash to be just as big as WWS if not bigger, just wondering wth they're waiting for.

 

[iMax]

Did we get a confirmation that Respawn's game in exclusive?
Also, why are people saying that Respawn's game will for sure outsell any Sony exclusive? Very few people outside GAF know or care that the game is made by ex-Infinity ward. The game will stand completely on it's own legs.

Because EA will hype the shit out of it and slap a label on the front that says 'From the Creators of Call of Duty and the Publishers of Battlefield'.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

That would be awesome. If they can partner with the key staff who made the original then even more so. A Conker sequel would need witty writing and Insominac proved they can make a witty character with Clank.

Absolutely. Start of the gen would be a good time for them to try and resurrect a few of their older IP.

Would do unspeakable things for a new Jet Force Gemini and Blast Corps.

 

[Jb]

I just realised, if MS is on a 2/3 year 'major Halo' schedule (2012 Halo 4, 2010 Reach, 2007 Halo 3), I guess there will be a Halo announcement this E3 right? Or we'll get a Halo 2 anniversary is 2014 and Halo 5 in 2015.

Even if they don't straight up announce Halo 5 at E3 I fully expect to see a demo of what a Halo game would be like on Durango. Everyone knows what Master Chief looks like on 360, so it would be a fairly easy way to wow the audience. I also don't know for sure if that's actually the case, but the Halo 4 engine looks like it was built to be used on both 360 and Durango.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Sorry for the confusion. When I said I believed it would be a Move game, I didn't necessarily mean Move-only. You said you thought that to be unlikely, and that's what I responded to.

And by the way, just because their next game may not be Move-only, that doesn't necessarily mean that it won't require the Move.

Your the only one confused here. Their next game does not need the move. You can play it entirely off the DS4.

 

[gaming_noob]

Insomniac gameplay with Rare's tech for a Jet Force Gemini or Banjo Kazooie. Makes too much sense!

 

[Sydle]

An Insomniac-made Jet Force Gemini reboot could be glorious.

I still think Rare could make a great Banjo. Showdown Town was amazing in the way it required on-foot and vehicular platforming, opening up as you got more parts. They should have taken that same methodology to each world, where you had to build a unique vehicle from scratch for each one suited to unique challenges to get to all parts of the map.

 

[BruiserBear]

Companies don't typically revive franchises that were never exactly huge to begin with. ie, Conker or Jet Force Gemini.