so ps4-devkits had 8 gb ram and then sony announced 8 gb ram instead of 4.
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so ps4-devkits had 8 gb ram and then sony announced 8 gb ram instead of 4.
He actually knows more. In fact, he knows what the machine was as of November of last year if I remember correctly...
Miles Quaritch
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Angelus Errare
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Devkits also weren't using 8GB of GDDR5, not really an analogous comparison.
You should probably take a look at the rumoured PS4 specs from the same time the Durango ones leaked. Completely different, so much so that Durango basically destroyed PS4 in terms of power. Things change. If Microsoft wants a better console, they'll do it. Time isn't really a big factor. It's investment short-term and long-term revenue potential.
Oh, we already talked about SHAPE with kidbeta in another thread and it turned out to be a reason to put kidbeta in defense-mode
Remember: Sony is also an audio-company! what did they use instead?
SenjutsuSage
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Oh, we already talked about SHAPE with kidbeta in another thread and it turned out to be a reason to put kidbeta in defense-mode
yeah sony is also an insurance company if is for this
to me kidbeta is just a sony supporter who love to go on xbox threads....and hope that xbox will end to be underpowered compared to ps4
just and only this
False. We had a steamroller instead of the current CPU (same ballpark...some would argue that the initial chip is actually better), but the GPU specs were EXACTLY what we ended up seeing, and so were the other components. The RAM was 2 GB GDDR with a target of 4 : they ultimately embarked 8GB.
yeah sony is also an insurance company if is for this
to me kidbeta is just a sony supporter that love to go on xbox threads....and hope that xbox will end to be underpowered compared to ps4
just and only this
Contrary to you, he argues his points and debates constructively...
You should emulate him instead of going into berserk-fanboy mode and mocking posters!
discrete card with gddr5 and ddr3 for the system
yeah sony is also an insurance company if is for this
to me kidbeta is just a sony supporter who love to go on xbox threads....and hope that xbox will end to be underpowered compared to ps4
just and only this
Walks like a duck sounds like a duck.
Miles Quaritch
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Another sequel I'd love to see (forgetting the mostly Godawful Bloodshot)...
Dat School level.
Shudders.
Dat School level.
Shudders.
Ninja Moomin
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even if the rumoured specs were true... it is many multiples more powerful than current gen.
It is not underpowered at all, just on paper - based on a leak from over a year ago from a single source - slightly less powerful than what Sony has shown.
Not sure if reiko can confirm this is what he was getting at but it seems the easiest change to the rumoured spec is a faster / better GPU.
They are not going to change the memory set up - the Move Engines + DDR + ESRAM have been developed that way for a reason.
There's a slim chance there will be more memory in the box, but that would mean changing the bus.
My bet is, if they have changed the spec at all, that the GPU in the final box will be more powerful than in the leaks, but pretty much everything else with be the same.
But this spec talk is dull... in just TWO DAYS we'll see what this thing can put on screen - after that, it won't matter.
yeah sony is also an insurance company if is for this
to me kidbeta is just a sony supporter who love to go on xbox threads....and hope that xbox will end to be underpowered compared to ps4
just and only this
for your reading-pleasure:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=56584004&postcount=2401
one of his defense-mode-posts. I asked him several times about details to vita's sound-hardware and in this thread he answered he hasn't any...
dat typing...
Because you liked to assert that because we had no information that it was therefore weaker, which is a pretty shit argument tbh.
Miles Quaritch
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I never did get around to playing BD. How was it? Might pick it up at some point over the Summer.
Neko Mimi Mode
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Yeah, I rarely get emotional over video games but Lost Odyssey just did it right. A JRPG Masterpiece, IMO.
Mistwalker are up to mobile games but are free for large projects, so it's not unreasonable. I would imagine that if not them then Microsoft would turn to Tri-Ace, Square Enix or another big name to help develop it.
The likelihood of a sequel is quite good, it sold really well for an exclusive in the genre this gen and Microsoft are interested in appealing to a wide market.
Same, came for the Lost Odyssey and Blue Dragon, stayed for the Halo etc.
From what I've heard, this is pretty much Microsoft's strategy. A plethora of games appealing to as wide a market as possible gets you on the platform and they make back the cost and profit in the long run.
I think it's highly likely we see similar content this gen.
no honestly we have more than one person "in the know" saying the ps4 audio block cant do what shape do
SlickShoesRUCrazy
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on paper, 4 times the 360, real world probably 6 times.
that's kind of pathetic for 8 years.
that's why I don't think the 1.2 shit is what we will see.
So to speak in common sense it was even worse than what Sony showed?
Phoenician_Viking
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2 and half days left. Hype.
And we have people in the know saying what Durango is yet you insist that its changed. Funny.
Neko Mimi Mode
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BD is really good, it looks like Dragon Quest but reminds me more of Final Fantasy V. The Job changing aspect is really addictive, the story is surprisingly deep when you get into it, the battles are fun and eventually involve a bit of strategy and the music (Uematsu of course) is amazing.
Lest we forget this beast.
final hardware is ALWAYS more powerful...
only the ram is higher on devkits ..jsut coz r debug machines
That's the nice part of rumors: everyone can pick what he wants. You pick the bad ones, others don't.
Im sorry if i like picking the more realistic rumours over the 4x VSP 10TFLOP QBBQ machine ones. I don't feel I pick the bad ones, hell I don't feel theres are bad ones, just rumours that say different things to think they are bad because they say something else is a bit :/.
Miles Quaritch
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Thanks, will see if I can pick it up at some point.
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So awesome.
who is in the know saying durango is 1.2tf console?
like i said im more inclined to think there will be 10/15% maximum of difference between this two console power
if u drink that 50% outerworld non sense.....you are free to do it...we have 2 days still..and i ask to u again.......wanna bet ur avatar ? (this should be "legal" on gaf)
Erm...
Loads of feathers flapping around this thread. Can hear them ruffling from here :]
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Why the hell would someone who is using his real name on a forum and is obviously still under NDA be confirming anything? That doesn't make sense.
Gemüsepizza
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And how is that important? So we have...
PS4 audio solution: Capable of 7.1 PCM
X3 audio solution: Capable of 7.1 PCM + Kinect 3D audio tasks
I don't see how it will affect the whole system performance, when the PS4 solution can still do all standard tasks?
China Dont Care
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good morning
Another day of doing nothing.
hardseppo
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I'm 38 this Nov., have wife and twins - it's okay to be excited about games, it's a darn good hobby
but did the devkits have more than 8 gb ram? I know of debug-machines, of course
i think there was multiple kit out...someone with 8 someone with 16 here a old rumor
"And the rumored PS4 specs paint quite a picture.
According to the report, the PS4 dev kits that game studios are currently working with pack an AMD A10 APU (a combo CPU/GPU), between 8GB and 16GB of RAM, 256GB of storage and a Blu-ray drive,
Also part of the package is stand"
Miles Quaritch
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This might possibly be the last traditional console reveal we see, that's more than reason enough to be excited.
but did the devkits have more than 8 gb ram? I know of debug-machines, of course
The devkits generally are the debug machines
Ok, than kidbeta could be right because of 16 gb rumor (which would be too high for me because of the late change to 8gb gddr5 but as I can't prove otherwise...)
Psycho_Mantis
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Angelus Errare
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Time is always a factor, you might want to actually look into eletronics manufacturing. As a product designer who works from time to time works on eletronics, your statement is nonsensical.
And you're comparing Sony to Microsoft, while I'm comparing Microsoft's past console to Microsoft's current consoles. Unless I'm missing something...Sony and Microsoft are two different companies. And PS4's specs leaked specs have pretty much remained the same minus memory increase. Unless we're counting super vague 2011 "specs" in which PS4 would have a 4 core 32bit processor...which makes no sense since AMD stopped making 32bit processors back in 2006/7 D:
But even if we go back to the 2011 murmurings, even they stated Xbox would be 1.2TFLOPs.
I mean here's PS4's leaked specs from July of 2012 (via lolbin).
So yea...relatively exactly the same minus bandwidth decrease, memory increase (but no change in the memory controller) and a switch from Steamroller to Jaguar. Like I stated earlier, the leak specs have a 65%+ chance of being right, fortunately or unfortunately. But there is still a chance that MS went in a completely different direction hardware wise back in 2012. That stated, MS switching hardware as a kneejerk reaction to Sony's unveiling in Feburary? lolno. Can the hardware be different? Definitely. Personally going by numerous past trends on leak to final hardware, I'm not holding my breath.
Honestly I suggest people expect the hardware to be the same so in the case it is different you're expectations are blown away. Versus expecting the hardware to be different/vastly more powerful and have your hopes and dreams crushed when they're not.
But that's me
/shrug.
8GB for main memory (DDR3) and they had a 1.5GB GPU (or was it 2GB?). Basically a PC.
Ninja Moomin
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this is why no one should be expecting changes in response to Sony.
Just can't just call up IBM 6 months before launch and say... oh, those several million highly complex chips we wanted, we changed them a bit, can you just switch a few things around?
It takes months of planning.
If there is a change it was made 6 months ago.
Don't bet on a change.
MS want powerful, cheap to produce hardware. On paper that is what Durango gives them.
Anyway. This is really tiresome and is just making a lot of people look a bit ignorant.
What's everyone's predictions for the 21st?
MINE:
recap of the history of xbox - montage...
sales age talk about how 360 has been the top selling system for two years straight.
no mention of 360 slim (this is Infinity's coming out party, they won't taint it or confuse it) - that bomb will drop when they have more breathing space at e3....
Detailled overview of the specs, but not just a list like Sony - Greenberg called it an 'inside look at the making on the console.' my bet is they will talk specs, but in the contexts of what that means in the real world... what does more power actually mean for your games and apps...
It means...
Multitasking
Kinect 2
unification across experiences and devices
YOUR ENTIRE DIGITAL AND RETAIL LIBRARY WILL WORK ON THE NEW FORMAT - if you buy the top SKU.
...and better games...
We'll see...
2 MS games
COD
1 x a.n. other
They will show the logo and the console from the start and it will be seen multiple times - they may even show the console before the event starts... they are selling a PRODUCT - they will let people see the thing they want them to attach to and buy.
They will hint at 'launch window' but not exact timing. Price... in two minds about whether they will mention it.
I do keep wondering if they are launching 'early' - not as in 'you can buy it right now' but maybe October?
EDIT: they want hype and carry over... so the may launch straight into COD.
Either way.... I cannot friggin wait.
<but please stop talking about the specs, it's fucking dull until we know something>
Also... CHOO CHOO
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