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[yami4ct]

Ha, not likely. Unless nintendo finds a way to patch these hacks soon (I hope they do), piracy will be rife again, and online games will become unplayable. So help me, if someone invents hacks for KI: Uprising, I will be incredibly pissed.

They do, it's called firmware updates. With these kinds of hacks, there will always have to be a fixable vulnerability that they're exploiting or something that's detectable and blockable. This will probably be an endless battle from now until the 3DS finally dies, but it's a battle that Nintendo can fight.

 

[Eric C]

If that means I can carry one cart instead of my 30 or so games whenever I travel, that would be amazing (just like on the DS, I have over 110 DS games, I rather carry a few SD cards than have to make a choice)

Nope. You can't do that with this. It looks like if you want your 30 or so games you'd need 30 SD cards.

From gba temp

Ideally what this card does is make the Game Chip a Micro SD card
the card will have to be formatted correctly and the right size (eg. you will need, 512mb,1GB,2GB,4GB cards)
each card can only hold 1 rom at a time, as it takes up the whole space of the card

The next thing is Save Data
as you can see in the video there is only 1 save chip and thats built in, so if you change the game MicroSD without backing up and Dumping the Save data with a Save tool BYE BYE save
as it is wiped as the game recognizes it as corrupt so deletes it
so they will either have to provide a method of extracting/dumping the save or you get a R4i Save Dongle or something that does the job

Basically this is a 1:1 clone sort of deal so only 1 at a time, no homebrew, no mods, no save tweaks

So pretty much it offers none of the advantages people who legally support flashcarts want (region unlocking, multiple games on one cart, homebrew), and just allows people to "back up" games for the cost of a micro sd card of the same size as the cartridge it comes on.

 

[Sendou]

Not piracy. Many will yse it for this purpose but if this gets rid of region restrictions and allows people who are against Nintendo's lack of account system to carry their library with them then its a legitimate usage.

No mention of region free and in the video she has a separate micro SD cards for each game. Try again.

 

[Im_So_Pringles]

I think that GAF users sometimes forget that their desire to use these devices only for backups and getting around region locks are in the extreme minority. These devices will only do more harm than good, and I really hope that they never see the light of day.

 

[n00bsauce]

Please nintendo, fix this before mario kart 7 becomes a hell hole....

It's called Rainbow Road

 

[PaulExcellent]

¿But you are willing to carry 30 micro sd cards?

Actually, this reminds me of when I softmodded my PSP because my UMD drive broke.
I went to a Sears, and they had the Memory Sticks that were 1GB for $3.
I bought like, 20, and those were my game carts. lol
One day, my father picked up Crisis Core for me while I was at school, and I couldn't play it until I borrowed a friend's PSP to back it up to my PC.

That sucked.

 

[KojiKnight]

Looking at the games and how this seems to work... I don't think they've cracked any sort of protection aside from the physical one. It looks like 1 game per microSD card with no loader... my guess is that these games are all 100% unmodified and that was the only way they could get them to load.



Translation: Legitimate players will NOT be affected by this... it also means that there is no chance for (3DS) homebrew via this device... presuming of course that it is legit to begin with.

(Edit) And yes, it doesn't appear to be any way around the region lock. These are unmodified games that are per region.

 

[Impeccable]

3DS interest just shot up.

 

[DaBoss]

You made a claim that piracy affected game sales, I'm saying you may just be wrong. Yes, instead of being 3rd all time in sales, they could have been 2nd in all time software sales. I'm just gonna call your outlook, diminished returns from our view of hindsight. Either way, even you would have to agree that it was a successful console.

Yup, there is no denying that the DS is successful, but that doesn't justify piracy at all.

 

[vagabondarts]

It's called Rainbow Road

Boom! Lol that track online is crazy isn't it?

 

[M3d10n]

Not piracy. Many will yse it for this purpose but if this gets rid of region restrictions and allows people who are against Nintendo's lack of account system to carry their library with them then its a legitimate usage.

It doesn't beat region locking, since all it can do is pretend to be an original cartridge. 3DS ROMs are fully digitally signed, so they cannot be modified to change the region.

 

[baphomet]

Except they are not.

You can transfer them to a new system, get them restored to a new system if stolen, get them transfered to a new system if your old one dies.

That's entirely not true. You're at their mercy if your system is stolen. I know this from first hand experience.

 

[Chezzymann]

It's called Rainbow Road

... Yeah now that you mention it I guess speed boosts wont help on rainbow road! This made my day xD

 

[n00bsauce]

Yup, there is no denying that the DS is successful, but that doesn't justify piracy at all.

That we can agree on

 

[Kouriozan]

Well, piracy didn't kill the DS but it's not a good news either :s

 

[Mitama]

I don't really believe much of this, if it can't run unsigned code and only 1:1 copies of games, it won't run multiple games off of 1 SD card. Also read their FAQ on their website. It clearly states this is not possible. In order to run unsigned code, you need a hack on the 3DS side, which a flash cart can not run by itself.

Googled some snippets and apparently it was posted by a new member on GBATemp. If true though, this would only be usable for piracy and render it useless indeed...

 

[FiveMinuteHero]

So you need a different SD card for every game?

 

[Chezzymann]

So you need a different SD card for every game?

If this is true unless these things are incredibly cheap (under $30) it would kind of make piracy pointless.


EDIT: Micro SD's, never mind.

 

[Starwolf_UK]

http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=60230189

I don't buy it. Anyone can make random comments on youtube. Let's look at the commenter account. How about possibly, their twitter account instead. Looks like just a random person...possibly trolling.

Hackers.

How does this let you hack Mario Kart? It lets you play games; not run unsigned code including memory hacks. Worry about those if they happen as this device does not look like it gets anywhere closer to that. If anything it gets it further (from better security being introduced).

 

[Durante]

That seems pretty useless.

It would appear by the cumbersome method of switching games that they can only run unmodified binaries by exactly simulating the original cart. That gives none of the advantages a "real" hack would.

 

[captmcblack]

This thing doesn't even enable homebrew software?

Well, this isn't even like CFW or the R4 devices from back in the day, then. This is more like those old-school linker/loader style flash cartridges. I'm sure firmware will block this instantly, so no worries for anyone thinking the 3DS is going to meltdown as a result.

 

[L.O.R.D]

this will not run other region games

*Can it get around region blocking?
Nope. For the same reason listed above, you'll still need to use the correct region's ROM for your hardware, and won't be able to play any ROMS of games that haven't been released in your hardware's region. You also can't modify the ROMs without stripping the Nintendo signature and thus making this method no longer work

forget about it then

 

[InfiniteNine]

this will not run other region games


forget about it then

Well this is useless for me then. Project Mirai! ;~;

 

[Rich!]

Theoretically, couldn't a large micro sd (like 32gb or so) be partitioned into the needed sizes? Obviously you'd need some kind of way to switch through them, but wouldnt that be a workaround for a 1:1 copy flashcart like this?

Even if it had something as ghetto as a button to switch through partitions/games.

 

[Einbroch]

So...

- Buy this thing
- Buy a SD micro to PC converter
- Pay $6+ on each micro SD card for each game
- Never go online


Well, this thing is super useful.

 

[frankie_baby]

Hopefully Nintendo get this blocked quickly and preferably brick the systems of the filthy pirates that use it

 

[Rich!]

So...

- Buy this thing
- Buy a SD micro to PC converter
- Pay $6+ on each micro SD card for each game
- Never go online


Well, this thing is super useful.

This cart enables 1:1 backups, which means there would be absolutely no difference between using a game via this cart or a real copy. I doubt Nintendo would be able to detect it.

 

[Goon Boon]

This cart enables 1:1 backups, which means there would be absolutely no difference between using a game via this cart or a real copy. I doubt Nintendo would be able to detect it.

They could potentially release decoy copies online that flag you for a ban.

 

[Crayons]

Hope Nintendo releases a firmware update blocking this.

This.
Piracy was so widespread on the DS everyone and their mom knew how to do it. We can't have this again.

I just wish there was region free.

 

[Rich!]

They could potentially release decoy copies online that flag you for a ban.

Not likely. Most users would stick to the verified scene releases.

 

[Grampa Simpson]

I personally expect this to result in 40-in-1 cartridges available from random guys at pubs.

It's kind of a shame, but for that matter, so is Nintendo's long term pricing strategy on software.

 

[L.O.R.D]

the solution is simple
nintendo make all the other game with special chip in the cartridge, that will make this thing useless ( at least for future games )

 

[PhantomR]

Good news!

http://ap.nintendo.com


Do your part. Take these assholes down.

 

[MatthewB92]

Notices it had wireless off. Best way to hide it I guess.

 

[ffdgh]

Let there be updates! I won't deny that I would love a hack that let's me back up my game saves tho.

 

[tajd]

disgusting hope nintendo nip this in the bud

 

[L.O.R.D]

Let there be updates! I won't deny that I would love a hack that let's me back up my game saves tho.

there is device that make you back up your save game any time
its work with 3DS and DS

 

[Caffeine]

so the gateway cart is still region locked as she is using it on a japan white 3ds ll with wifi off

nintendo just nuke these guys

 

[Abandond]

All I want is to break region lock on my 3DS to import some of that japanese goodness.

 

[Byronic Hero]

http://ap.nintendo.com


Do your part. Take these assholes down.

I keep getting an error when I get to the second step.

 

[hydragonwarrior]

95% used for piracy (see asian outlet stores). 5% will be legit users and probably only from neogaf.

 

[Shoyz]

so the gateway cart is still region locked as she is using it on a japan white 3ds ll with wifi off

nintendo just nuke these guys

European XL*

 

[akaoni]

Well I came in hoping for region-free 3DS. Disappointed.

 

[Sacul64]

Do you honestly think I give a fuck what people will do with it? I'll use it so I don't have to carry 30 games around with me all the time.

You will when devs use this as an excuse to drop support. All so you you have an attention problem that requires you to carry 30 games around? I carry one Kart and have all my digital games.

 

[K' Dash]

Nintendo sells all their games digitally, and you can put them on an SD card. You don't need this "collector's tool." People are going to use it to "collect" games they rented or borrowed or pirated.

don't spread lies, you don't know what you're talking about, you CAN NOT back up games, if you lose your console you won't be able to recover them.

 

[captmcblack]

the solution is simple
nintendo make all the other game with special chip in the cartridge, that will make this thing useless ( at least for future games )

If they do this, the hackers will simply emulate the chips or patch the files to bypass the chips; that's how they used to do these things with SNES and N64.

The key will be the firmware blocks.

 

[razoftblend]

What if when Miiverse gets released on 3DS whoever is playing a pirated game or games without Nintendo's signature gets a flag on their comments for everyone to see (and potentially avoid) within the Miiverse communities rather than from within the game? This could work as a sort of DRM to warn people. Kind of like public execution.

edit: and let's not forget Streetpass and Spotpass

 

[frankie_baby]

95% used for piracy (see asian outlet stores). 5% will be legit users and probably only from neogaf.

Likely closer to 0.5%

 

[Shaanyboi]

hangon.... DS was one of the best selling handhelds of all time and piracy was easy and rampant.... How did this damage DS?

You realize the DS was had carts too, right? R4? How did it kill the DS?

It didn't kill the DS. But it did slowly kill software sales and support of publishers and other developers. Alot of them backing away from the platform for the very reason that piracy was getting to obscene. Nintendo obviously still did well, as did their software, and that was primarily due to kids and their parents. But among the enthusiast crowd, there were a ton of people that were using R4's.

don't spread lies, you don't know what you're talking about, you CAN NOT back up games, if you lose your console you won't be able to recover them.

If you lose your console, you're going to lose your R4 card too.

 

[manueldelalas]

This is completely useless, I'm very happy with my 20 3DS games on my SD Card for now.

I'm still waiting for dl version of Kid Icarus and Monkey Ball though...