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Microsoft officially pulls DRM from Xbox One, announces new policies
- Thread starter chubigans
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This. Still heaps of time for advertising and word of mouth to spread the DRM changes.
Now all they need to do is drop the price / kinectless sku and things will get interesting.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Same, I've watched almost all of his videos.
goldenpp72
Member
Now confirm they won't steal my MS points in a year, drop the price and confirm the specs are in line with Ps4, and maybe all will be forgiven for this cluster fuck.
Alx
Member
MS wouldn't have opted out. So first party games could have been shared. Now they can't.
Seven Force
Banned
Looking back through the thread where the DRM was initially announced is amazing now.
The eventual wall of shame for this debacle is going to be huge.
The eventual wall of shame for this debacle is going to be huge.
ultrazilla
Member
Are you always this incredibly shortsighted? They created a fucking PR nightmare for their company. It's probably the WORST thing you can do when trying to launch a new product.
Make no mistake, this epic cluster fuck will be studied by schools and businesses on how NOT to launch a new product.
KojiKnight
Member
Was never a big fan of totalbiscuit, but he lost any shred of possible respect I could have ever had for him. Seems to me like he didn't have a real foot in this argument and since his "side" lost he's just going to try and low blow people to make a point.
The fuck's he going to realize he just makes crappy gaming videos on the internet, what has he done for these same people he's so proud to use as a bash for everyone else?
The fuck's he going to realize he just makes crappy gaming videos on the internet, what has he done for these same people he's so proud to use as a bash for everyone else?
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Dion Blaster
Member
Buy it digitally then. Nothing is stopping you. DRM on physical is what's terrible.
He's right, though.
What if someone wanted all the benefits of digital while still having a box to put on my shelf, though? They can't have that now.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
The respect I ever had for this guy is fading away like Xbone DRM policies.
I personally think major news outlets would have had a military shitstorm about the DRM making even non games dislike MS.
"This is what DRM is and why it is bad for gamers." vs. "Micrsoft's DRM policy and the effects on military overseas entertainment"
Liquidsnake
Banned
Its June. They have plenty of time. At least they didn't wait till 2 weeks after launch.
You want new online experiences and better XBox live so we give you game sharing and instant game changing.
You hate it and now want offline gaming and discs and no cloud, so we take Sony's route and remove DRM, region restrictions and always online.
Ooooooo but noooooo now you hate OFFLINE GAMING. NOW YOU WANT GAME SHARING AND CLOUD.
WELL YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU LIKE.
WHAT THE FUCK YOU THINK YOU WANT???
THAT IS WHY WE DO TV APPS AND AVATAR SHOES ALL DAY, DADS AND KIDS WILL ALWAYS LIKE THEM!!!!!!!!
Both of you, take a bow. Excellent work.
SymbolicGamer
Banned
What if you don't have TV?
I bet Major Nelson's pissed off. He's been riding that DRM dick pretty hard the past few days. Looks like a complete dumbass now.
I'm worried about this too. But for the time being, it's atleast been delayed for one more generation.
I'm worried about this too. But for the time being, it's atleast been delayed for one more generation.
katsubento
Member
Good for them. Now it's just the weaker specs, Kinect, and higher price they need to sell people some people here on. I'm not planning on XBox One on launch, but if they do decide to start listening I may decide on it later.
Dorimukyasuto
Member
Well, still gonna just be PS3 and Vita for me for a couple years anyway. Kinda feel bad for Sony but they still vastly improved their (already decent) image, IMO.
Xv Elite vX
Banned
THIS!
Muffdraul
Member
Sony lacks ambition.
LittleJohnny
Banned
You want to know what sucks? I understand that there were a lot of people this was going to affect negatively, but I know for a fact that most of the people crying about it weren't going to be affected at all because they always do have access to the internet, kept their 360 online all the time anyway and were basically upset based on principle...
But was REALLY annoying is that a lot of people complaining were Sony fans who never intended to get an Xbox One anyway and were just trolling the Xbox One, I would say as much as half of the complaints were never getting an Xbox One and have now ruined it for all of us who were ready for the future. The benefits truly outweighed some of the bad imo, family game sharing was indeed TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE *cries
Conflict NZ
Member
Everyone give yourselves a pat on the back, you kept gamestop in business for the next generation.
GravityMan
Member
The suits at Microsoft who thought up and made the decision to add the DRM to the X1 in the first place need to lose their jobs. Period. Don Mattrick also needs to be fired. Possibly Major Nelson too. Seriously, heads need to fucking roll up there in Redmond, WA. Anyone with half a clue and a pulse on current society & market knows that restricting used games and forcing always online is asking for serious trouble.
This policy reversal is a good step in the right direction, but it's not good enough:
- Remove the required Kinect (don't even bundle it with the console). One SKU, Kinect-free.
- Drop the launch price down to at least $399...$349 would be ideal since the X1 has weaker components than PS4
- Get rid of the whole "live TV" integration (almost nobody cares about it)
- Make online multiplayer free, or revise Xbox Live Gold so that it actually has real value, similar to PS Plus. Stop putting Netflix etc behind a paywall.
Do all that, and maybe Xbox One will start to look slightly more appealing to more consumers (not me). That said, it's very unlikely that MS can accomplish the above and still make their release date. Especially if hardware mass production has already begun.
This policy reversal is a good step in the right direction, but it's not good enough:
- Remove the required Kinect (don't even bundle it with the console). One SKU, Kinect-free.
- Drop the launch price down to at least $399...$349 would be ideal since the X1 has weaker components than PS4
- Get rid of the whole "live TV" integration (almost nobody cares about it)
- Make online multiplayer free, or revise Xbox Live Gold so that it actually has real value, similar to PS Plus. Stop putting Netflix etc behind a paywall.
Do all that, and maybe Xbox One will start to look slightly more appealing to more consumers (not me). That said, it's very unlikely that MS can accomplish the above and still make their release date. Especially if hardware mass production has already begun.
Um, why? Why not buy the disc at a far cheaper price and still have the convenience of digital and digital sharing?
See? Wasn't that easier?
Oh damage has been done. Otherwise MS won't even do this stunt.
BTW you were the one who called this MS's action as 'biggest fan service ever'. such BS.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
The thing is it used to be that we could buy digitally OR buy a disc and you could share your games digitally with family. Now it's a choice between sharing and having to use the disc or buying digitally and not being able to share. So for people who were comfortable with the DRM and were already going to buy the box this is a downgrade.
Having said that, in an interview with Kotaku Marc Whitten said they won't have share available "at launch" so there is hope that we'll see that feature brought back at some point.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
What? Where did Sony ever show that they weren't going to try this gen?
Sad thing is there are 85 favorites.
He also should have said "Why are you guys even complaining about this DRM, people are dying of starvation in the world. #thirdworldproblems"
He is right, but also absolutely out of place. The hashtagging might not have changed Sony into doing the DMR thing because they already had almost decided what to do, but they surely changed Microsoft (even if their image is already hurt and a lot of people will remember the XBone / 180 for what has happened). Sure, it's nowhere in the same level, so what? Can't be happy about it anymore because of it?
Manmademan
Member
Good. Now let's hope no company is stupid enough to try this ever again.
The Power Of Snap
Member
There's an offline cloud. Like in windows xp.
Funny thing is how they justify DRM
always online stuff with "but you can play all my games in your house no Disc", "see always online has great benefits", M. Nelson sayings how great it is "what problem Joe".
I am not sure if you seen Aaron Greenberg On video talking and selling this DRM as the greatest thing ever for MS digital console future. Even saying "If you dont have internet dont get our console"
Wonder how he feels now.
always online stuff with "but you can play all my games in your house no Disc", "see always online has great benefits", M. Nelson sayings how great it is "what problem Joe".
I am not sure if you seen Aaron Greenberg On video talking and selling this DRM as the greatest thing ever for MS digital console future. Even saying "If you dont have internet dont get our console"
Wonder how he feels now.
Wow, this guy is a douche.