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[Pristine_Condition]

Kinda amazing that even after seeing a glimpse of Final Fantasy gameplay on PS4, and the announcement of the Dark Souls sequel, all it takes is registering a freaking domain name and this instantly becomes pretty much the most exciting JRPG on the planet for me right now.

 

[TurnipFritters]

As I've said before, why would anyone purposefully prefer this downgrade

for starters neither persona 3 or persona 4 looked anywhere near as good as nocturne. they were pretty much on par with smt4's dungeon graphics, so it'd really be more of a lateral move.

There's nothing to "get". People prefer different things, ussually for different valid reasons

you guys are weird

it's because, for some reason, i expect persona 5 to be a graphical powerhouse despite that never being the case for the persona series, here let me show you two out of context images from two different games in a different series to prove my point

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

this is videogames, people want the things that they personally prefer. Going by your logic then why not Persona 5 on PC? that would cause more shitstorms than ever yet it'd be the most capable version of the game.

If your a persona fan chances are that you own a ps3 by now (or should) or at least a vita. PC would be uncharted territory and not safe at all for Atlus.

 

[Nags]

It's not going to be on 3DS guys.
Like seriously.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Man, how about them Persona games!

They have some pretty fantastic music. I hope the game music is as upbeat as Persona 4, and the battles are as lively as well with constant commentary from party members.

Yup yup

 

[Glass Rebel]

How would a portable version be an enhanced port of a game on superior hardware? P5 is going to be on PS3 at absolute worst - a PSV or 3DS port would be a significant downgrade.

Man, I just don't get this whole portable obsession for Persona. With Square being a worthless pile of garbage, the consoles need major JRPGs - handhelds have enough already. :[

If there's more and better content it is "enhanced". I don't care what consoles "need". I want my turn-based JRPGs to portable.

 

[Squire]

Man, how about them Persona games!

They have some pretty fantastic music. I hope the game music is as upbeat as Persona 4, and the battles are as lively as well with constant commentary from party members.

Yup yup

Have you seen the community thread? I have a feeling you'd like it there!

 

[WrenchNinja]

Have you seen the community thread? I have a feeling you'd like it there!

I've never been! Are they a friendly bunch?

 

[Salsa]

If your a persona fan chances are that you own a ps3 by now (or should) or at least a vita. PC would be uncharted territory and not safe at all for Atlus.

im purely speaking from the more capable perspective, it's a theory just to serve a point, im not saying it'll happen

also im a Persona fan and I dont own a PS3. Why would I? there's no Persona for it!

 

[Goby]

The fact of the matter is, if Persona can't be bothered to release a console game in 2013, then JRPG players that want something nice looking are fucked everywhere except for Square Enix.

As I've said before, why would anyone purposefully prefer this downgrade

'I can play it on handhelds.' Yeah, there's also a dozen other JRPGs you can play on handhelds.

Hell, might I refer you to Shin Megami Tensei IV.

Yeah but now SMT IV can afford a plot, voice acting, characters, and more than 400 demons

 

[Dantis]

I've never been! Are they a friendly bunch?

Not really.

I guess my misunderstanding here is really that I never saw the Persona series as having such an exploratory art style. Nothing about the art in any of the games has seemed really anything more than above average to me. The statement about Okami makes sense, the issue here is that I really don't think comparing Persona to Okami is a fair comparison since I really don't think the visual direction and art style of Persona even touches something like Okami.

Each to there own I guess though.

Also, again, I really think we should just be excited about a new Persona after going through all of these spin-offs.

This is a weird post. I wish more games did have art as strong as Persona's. Soejima's art is pretty damn unique, and I'd argue just as much as Okami's. Okami's art was unique for its presentation, rather than its actual content. Persona's art is unique for the content, rather than presentation.

Outside of Masayuki Doi and Kazumi Kaneko, there really isn't anything like it in games.

 

[SaintR]

Enjoying a handheld game for its portability is in no way selfish. Wanting a console game (mainline Persona's have always been on consoles) to be on a handheld just for the reason that YOU enjoy playing on a handheld is.

Selfishness is placing concern with oneself or one's own interests above the well-being or interests of others.



I never said it did but Atlus knows where the Persona fanbase is at so it would be absurd for them to not put Persona 5 on the PS3.

This is a silly argument. You basically arguing semantics on the definition of selfishness while missing the entire point. We all have our preferences (selfishness/bias,etc). So why are we breaking this down?
And I don't mean this as a personal attack on you, it's just an irrelevant arguing point.

 

[Zukuu]

Plot twist, it comes out for PS2.

 

[airmangataosenai]

I could be happy with a full PS3 release.
I'd live with PS3/Vita.
I'd die and go to heaven for PS4.

 

[Data West]

Yeah but now SMT IV can afford a plot, voice acting, characters, and more than 400 demons

And yet early Japanese impressions all seem to say it's good but not as good as III.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

The only thing I'm hoping for is that the demons will be 3D models. What bugs me about SMTIV is the inconsistent art style of the demons. If the 3DS forces them to use sprites, I'd prefer it elsewhere, otherwise I don't really care.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

Man, how about them Persona games!

They have some pretty fantastic music. I hope the game music is as upbeat as Persona 4, and the battles are as lively as well with constant commentary from party members.

Yup yup

I prefer P3's music over P4's. The piano scores are wonderful.

 

[Salsa]

And yet early Japanese impressions all seem to say it's good but not as good as III.

I havent been keeping up with that stuff at all. What's the consensus on what is it that's not as good

 

[Squire]

I've never been! Are they a friendly bunch?

Naaah, they're jerks.

Not really.

^Case in point.

 

[clay_ghost]

Plot twist, it comes out for PS2.

Na it will be for the Wii, that why p5 is a bit different.

 

[TurnipFritters]

The only thing I'm hoping for is that the demons will be 3D models. What bugs me about SMTIV is the inconsistent art style of the demons. If the 3DS forces them to use sprites, I'd prefer it elsewhere, otherwise I don't really care.

it is unlikely persona 5 will abandon the artwork on the status screen that was seen in persona 3 and persona 4, so no matter what you're gonna get a face full of inconsistent art. you may even get to see the new smt4 demons in it, as well.

 

[Lunar15]

Not really.

Memes aside, everyone is hootin and hollerin about which platform it's on and I'm just here going "oh my god persona 5 is coming oh my god"

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

im purely speaking from the more capable perspective, it's a theory just to serve a point, im not saying it'll happen

also im a Persona fan and I dont own a PS3. Why would I? there's no Persona for it!

Persona 1 and 2 ---- PS1
Persona 3 and 4 ---- PS2
Persona 5 ---- ???

Theres a trend here. Also you forgot P4A you monster.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

WTH? Tales of ? Or even x for the wiiu?

Not everyone has a Wii U. And Tales is a super-niche series even within the JRPG community, and Xillia supposedly isn't all that great.

I think when people make JRPGs they have to be careful. These games are not going to sell in massive numbers and putting out a console version is probably going to run you a higher cost then putting it out on a handheld. Its not because people wanted to throw JRPGs on the handhelds is just what the market has dictated. Theres a higher chance of a return on a console like the 3DS then there is probably on the PS3. At the end of the day its a business decision. I understand your qualms but unless there is a resurgence in the popularity of the JRPG I don't know where you expect the that particular category of games to go but onto cheaper platforms.

Especially moving into newer and newer console generations I suspect you'll continue to see developers take to handhelds for JRPGs then the other way around.

If index thinks they can make more money by releasing it on the 3DS/Vita then well they will probably do it. The 3DS has a giant install base and Persona fans bought Vitas for P4G.

The PS3 DOES sell JRPGs very well though. And it also has vastly higher software sales in non-Japan territories than the 3DS does. The era of the DS being the only platform that sells games is over and done with now - the PS3 has shown remarkably solid sales for Tales games and a number of other major Japanese titles. If P4G did as well as it did on the mostly-dead Vita, P5 on PS3 would sell significantly better than that.

In any case, my stance is this: if Atlus takes Persona to the 3DS, I won't follow them. It is of course their choice to put the game where they want to put it, and it's also my choice whether or not to buy it. I will not just "take what I can get" - either they give me what I want, or they don't get my money. Simple consumerism.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

it is unlikely persona 5 will abandon the artwork on the status screen that was seen in persona 3 and persona 4, so no matter what you're gonna get a face full of inconsistent art. you may even get to see the new smt4 demons in it, as well.

Yeah, I don't mind the status screen art (I guess it can be interpreted as an artist's depiction of a demon?), I just hate it in battle. The 3D models make it look more... together I guess?

 

[Data West]

I havent been keeping up with that stuff at all. What's the consensus on what is it that's not as good

There's some even in the gaf thread. Dungeon design not being as interesting, game being too easy for an SMT title(particularly, the health and magic raising every level without having to invest points in it). Some people preferred the less is more story style of SMT, since it's how the series normally is.

That the combat system doesn't do anything fresh, since they didn't keep SJ's quirks that were added to the combat.

The music's great and it seems everyone thinks it's great in general, but I was hoping for something better than Nocturne and Strange Journey. I wouldn't be surprised if Soul Hackers was the best SMT title released this year.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Yeah, I don't mind the status screen art (I guess it can be interpreted as an artist's depiction of a demon?), I just hate it in battle. The 3D models make it look more... together I guess?

i think attempting to create a coherent style is important.

There's some even in the gaf thread. Dungeon design not being as interesting, game being too easy for an SMT title(particularly, the health and magic raising every level without having to invest points in it). Some people preferred the less is more story style of SMT, since it's how the series normally is.

That the combat system doesn't do anything fresh, since they didn't keep SJ's quirks that were added to the combat.

SJ's "quirks" didn't build on the press turn system and could largely be ignored and i'm fairly certain that you gain HP and MP in SMT3 regardless of if you put points into it.

 

[Glass Rebel]

There's some even in the gaf thread. Dungeon design not being as interesting, game being too easy for an SMT title(particularly, the health and magic raising every level without having to invest points in it). Some people preferred the less is more story style of SMT, since it's how the series normally is.

That the combat system doesn't do anything fresh, since they didn't keep SJ's quirks that were added to the combat.

The music's great and it seems everyone thinks it's great in general, but I was hoping for something better than Nocturne and Strange Journey. I wouldn't be surprised if Soul Hackers was the best SMT title released this year.

Sounds like Persona 3DS would be perfect then!

 

[Canis lupus]

Kinda hoping for PS4 release, but then again last gen they didn't give a fuck about new consoles and released P4 and Devil Summoner 2 on the PS2 so this will be either for the PS3 or handhelds.

 

[Dantis]

The music's great and it seems everyone thinks it's great in general, but I was hoping for something better than Nocturne and Strange Journey. I wouldn't be surprised if Soul Hackers was the best SMT title released this year.

Well it's good to know that you kept your expectations realistic.

 

[clay_ghost]

Not everyone has a Wii U. And Tales is a super-niche series even within the JRPG community, and Xillia supposedly isn't all that great.



The PS3 DOES sell JRPGs very well though. And it also has vastly higher software sales in non-Japan territories than the 3DS does. The era of the DS being the only platform that sells games is over and done with now - the PS3 has shown remarkably solid sales for Tales games and a number of other major Japanese titles. If P4G did as well as it did on the mostly-dead Vita, P5 on PS3 would sell significantly better than that.

In any case, my stance is this: if Atlus takes Persona to the 3DS, I won't follow them. It is of course their choice to put the game where they want to put it, and it's also my choice whether or not to buy it. I will not just "take what I can get" - either they give me what I want, or they don't get my money. Simple consumerism.

You were asking for console RPGs... And tox is at least above average.any way tox2 have really good reviews.

I am wondering if you will buy a wiiu if p5 Is Wiiu exclusive?it is at least a bit more powerful than ps3.

 

[7threst]

Persona on a handheld like 3DS or Vita? That would make me freaking happy! It totally suits the way I enjoy JRPG's these days.Then again, I would like to see what Atlus is capable of doing with Persona when bringing it to Wii U. I expect it to come out on PS3 though.

 

[Data West]

Well it's good to know that you kept your expectations realistic.

It's not like Nocturne's perfect. I enjoyed SMT 2 more than Nocturne. I really loved Strange Journey, but that's because I get my kicks out of sci-fi SMT.


...OK, I'll accept handheld Persona if it means console DDS spiritual sequel.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

i think attempting to create a coherent style is important.

I really wish they'd go through and update all the art. They don't even have to change the designs, just make it more cohesive. I suppose it might be a lot of work, but it would fix some of my complaints about the more modern games.

 

[TurnipFritters]

I really wish they'd go through and update all the art. They don't even have to change the designs, just make it more cohesive. I suppose it might be a lot of work, but it would fix some of my complaints about the more modern games.

given the style of presentation they chose, i believe smt4 would have benefited immensely from doing this.

ideally, for persona 5, all the persona designs (all of them, including non-story/party member ones) would be reworked to form a coherent style. i liked the direction that p2 ep had, where a lot of the designs had been altered to look more mask-like and otherworldly, and it would be neat to see them bring back that aesthetic for p5.

 

[PlanetSmasher]

You were asking for console RPGs... And tox is at least above average.any way tox2 have really good reviews.

I want good console RPGs. If I just wanted console RPGs in general, I'd suffer through Gust's crap or those ridiculous Neptunia games. Tales...eh. Tales hasn't been at its prime for years. Graces had a good battle system, but everything else about it was pretty awful.

I am wondering if you will buy a wiiu if p5 Is Wiiu exclusive?it is at least a bit more powerful than ps3.

Probably not. I don't buy consoles just to play one single game, unless they're dirt cheap.

 

[KillerTravis]

Yeah, there's no better way to say it. Some people still don't get it. I don't know what to tell them.

But the 3DS game has better textures and you can see your current equipment. How is Nocturne more impressive in that gif?

 

[clay_ghost]

I want good console RPGs. If I just wanted console RPGs in general, I'd suffer through Gust's crap or those ridiculous Neptunia games. Tales...eh. Tales hasn't been at its prime for years. Graces had a good battle system, but everything else about it was pretty awful.



Probably not. I don't buy consoles just to play one single game, unless they're dirt cheap.

I see er.
I however do not agree with what you said about tox

well it will most likely be ps3 any way lol. If x is as good as xenoblade , there will be two great jrpg for you to buy !

I really want to see how smt x fireemblem plays like.....

 

[PlanetSmasher]

But the 3DS game has better textures and you can see your current equipment. How is Nocturne more impressive in that gif?

This point is completely meaningless considering the 3DS game's battle system doesn't ever show your character or your demons engaged in combat.

I see er.
I however do not agree with what you said about tox

well it will most likely be ps3 any way lol. If x is as good as xenoblade , there will be two great jrpg for you to buy !

I really want to see how smt x fireemblem plays like.....

I need a lot more than two games to sell me on a console. At least five, preferably ten. And honestly, considering the trailers for X made it seem to be multiplayer-focused, I really don't have any interest in it. I never even finished Xenoblade.

But yes, hopefully P5 is just a PS3 game so all of my worry ends up being for naught.

 

[TurnipFritters]

This point is completely meaningless considering the 3DS game's battle system doesn't ever show your character or your demons engaged in combat.

except you can see your current equipment when you're running around on the map, which was their point

 

[Young Magus]

Well looks like something finally turned up. Interested either way with how it goes: ps4, ps3, dreamcast, 3ds, gamegear, cast of high schoolers, cast of retirees in a old folks home, it doesn't matter really. I have some faith in Atlus to know that the game will be grade A+ quality.

but what about those of us who like all of them D:

You/we are a dying breed my friend.

that's why you're my favorite persona community thread poster

Spoiler

just kidding, you're all my favorite!

We....we think you cool too mang ;_;

 

[KillerTravis]

This point is completely meaningless considering the 3DS game's battle system doesn't ever show your character or your demons engaged in combat.

Except we are seeing images of the main character in a dungeon. Images were the 3DS game looks better.

The post says "look at this downgrade" when there's not actually one there.

 

[WrenchNinja]

Wow, Nocturne looks so good. Very simple but sleek. Is that really a PS2 screenshot?

 

[PlanetSmasher]

except you can see your current equipment when you're running around on the map, which was their point

Showing the player's equipment is meaningless unless you get to actually see the character using it.

Except we are seeing images of the main character in a dungeon. Images were the 3DS version looks better.

The post says "look at this downgrade" when there's not actually one there.

Personally, I don't think the 3DS game looks better at all. Its resolution is godawful, the environments look unbelievably ugly compared to Nocturne's stylish, no-nonsense design, and the battle system is absolutely hideous. So yeah, it's a downgrade in my book.

 

[RedAssedApe]

21 pages for a domain registration lol

 

[Seth Balmore]

Be still, my heart.

 

[Paper Sparrow]

given the style of presentation they chose, i believe smt4 would have benefited immensely from doing this.

ideally, for persona 5, all the persona designs (all of them, including non-story/party member ones) would be reworked to form a coherent style. i liked the direction that p2 ep had, where a lot of the designs had been altered to look more mask-like and otherworldly, and it would be neat to see them bring back that aesthetic for p5.

It would be amazing if the personas/demons had different styles depending on the game they are in. It could give the non-Kaneko artists a chance to shine (or fail miserably).

I hope Persona 4's success allows them to do this. It is a big opportunity to stand out from the crowd.

 

[Sylver]

It's not an indie game so it won't go for VITA.

 

[KillerTravis]

Showing the player's equipment is meaningless unless you get to actually see the character using it.



Personally, I don't think the 3DS game looks better at all. Its resolution is godawful, the environments look unbelievably ugly compared to Nocturne's stylish, no-nonsense design, and the battle system is absolutely hideous. So yeah, it's a downgrade in my book.

Well I hope you have played the game, because based on the material we've been exposed to so far I'd say SMT IV's dungeons look technically more impressive than Nocturne's.

The resolution is no problem when you play it on the 3DS screen and it actually looks better than the blurriness you get on your TV from PS2/Wii games.

 

[TurnipFritters]

Wow, Nocturne looks so good. Very simple but sleek. Is that really a PS2 screenshot?

it's off an emulator

It would be amazing if the personas/demons had different styles depending on the game they are in. It could give the non-Kaneko artists a chance to shine (or fail miserably).

it would. i do not expect that to happen, but it's a nice dream.