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Summer 2013 Anime Thread Zero: grown men playing with dolls/who but WB Masochism

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fertygo

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And Tamako Market's design was basically that of K-ON!, but transplanted into a market setting. I don't quite understand this criticism.

And the show I was referring to as excellent at the very end was Hyouka.

I can't understand either, same chara designer, look, and all.

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Help me identify the problem.

Maybe Tamako's one have more bang to cover the massive forehead?
 

Kagami

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They're finally doing the card-unlock event for Kanna's last card in YomeColle, a year and a half after the anime.

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I'd make a joke about the card art turning out to be her crying face, but the card name is "Revolution...?" so it doesn't sound much like it'll involve tears.
This still leaves Remon with her locked card, but I'd guess if they're doing Kanna now, Remon will probably follow. (Ichika and Mio got theirs already,)
 
Still don't have a working computer right now so the full list will have to wait, but this was a boring sales week anyway. Here's the main stuff:

- Oregaoru/SNAFU BD 1 gets a stock boost up to 9659 sold total
- same for Hataraku which goes up to 11192 total

That's all for now.

Good shows from last season continues to sell, so woo.
 
They're finally doing the card-unlock event for Kanna's last card in YomeColle, a year and a half after the anime.

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I'd make a joke about the card art turning out to be her crying face, but the card name is "Revolution...?" so it doesn't sound much like it'll involve tears.
This still leaves Remon with her locked card, but I'd guess if they're doing Kanna now, Remon will probably follow. (Ichika and Mio got theirs already,)[/QUOTE]

That reminds me that I was finally going to look into YomeColle because they have K now.
 
Mo~tto! Ojamajo Doremi - 02

They can't do this, it's in Da Rules!
Doremi keeps her streak of being the world's unluckiest pretty girl, being separated from Hazuki-chan, Ai-chan and Onpu-chan as if this isn't enough she's in the same class as Tamaki Reika.
Better engrish than Kiniro Mosaic!
But in the end Asuka will learn japanese faster than the girls will learn english, but les't see for how long Asuka will keep using that english.
The new Mahodou is ready for business.
 
Is Kotaku not as widely hated here yet as it is on the gaming side? You guys seem legitimately surprised a Kotaku article isn't good.

kotaku's fine. Scheier is adorable defending his site at every moment, but he does good work (he did catch reggie offguard and get FE:A localization announcement out of him) and likes suikoden.

Not a fan of that lady writer who tries to find issue out of everything though.
 
As I understood it, the villagers were already dead (IIRC, in the first episode there's a comment about an odd smell from the woman who took care of the girl), and they explained in this episode why they need to put dead people to rest. It seems like their personality starts deteriorating after a while, and they become egocentric and envious of the living, even if their body and personality are seemingly intact initially.

Also, he seems to be actually alive, unlike the people who keep moving after dying.

That makes sense, but why would the guy need to be a prick about it and not just tell the poor girl whose life he fucked up?

And if being alive nets you the nickname "immortal", shouldn't there be a ton of people worthy of that title including Yuri?
 

Jex

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[UCHOTEN KAZOKU/This Eccentric Family] - 1

I can see why certain people are calling this the show of the season. Pleasant visuals, good direction and an excellent script. It's a rare tread to come across an anime that's actually well written, unfortunately, and it's usually the case that it's because the anime is adapting a novel, as is the case here.

I was genuinely shocked to see that this is a PA Works production considering that it contains none of there rather tired visual trademarks, which is certainly a good thing. The one thing that does bother me about is the 'background art', some of which is very clearly nothing more than a photograph with a photoshop filter over it. Ugh.

I will certainly watch the second episode.
 

Taruranto

Member
Maou at the McDonald #10

Finally decided to pick this up again, the second half has been rather blea(c)h so far. Asliel became useless, Lucifer is a non-character to crawl in some references and the girls are more and more just fanservice fuel (this episode was the worst offender),

Also, James from the Team Rocket is the antagonist and an
angel
, but i say meh.
 

Blusby

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So fellas, how's watching your girl cartoons been? I, as a respectable man have started watching Milky Holmes, because it's truly in the top echelon of Highbrow entertainment.
I actually finished [C] and found that it could have been really good with more episodes and less cg, the cg revolution is a horrible, horrible thing.
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Kiniro Mosaic - 02

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Youko x Aya for #1 OTP! My goodness!

OTP potential so good they even hint it in the credits! Absolutely in love with this show.

Hahahaha at Alice trying to knock down the teacher a peg or two with her English only to have it backfire.
 

iavi

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No Umakoshi was a key animator not an animation director for the movie, he wasn't behind the glowing eye trails,he wasn't in charge of the visual style of the movie.

the animation director where

Chief Animation Director: Masayuki Sato(animation director for op strong world)

Animation Director:
Naoki Tate(animation director op tv,op movie 9)
Ryō Ōnishi(op tv and toriko tv animation director)
Takahiro Kagami(yu-gi-oh and death note animation director)

The glowing red eye trail was probably assistant animation director Masayuki Takagi idea as his done it before a few times with zoro in the anime (warning spoiler)(animation director but animate by some else).

Umakoshi did do some great key animation I spotted in the later parts of movie.


Guess that makes sense. I really feel like I've fallen out of my understanding of the prod roles as of late.
 

survivor

Banned
Tamayura ~hitotose~ 7
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When will Fuu ever learn to take a good picture?
So I take it, Shouko's message was to Fuu's dad? Explains why she was crying and the "write a message to people in heaven" thing. Although I'm still not sure what's her connection. It will be explained right?
 
Watamote 2

So apparently I'm the only one coming out of this episode in a good mood. The anxiety of meeting old friends followed by having a good time with them by just being yourself was all kinds of heartwarming to me. That and fat Sugita's portrait of her making her day was just fantastic. They tried to play off how trivial the picture was to make as something tragic but it just makes me appreciate how simple gestures can make a huge difference. Also doubles as a nice commentary on how bland the generic pretty girl look is especially in contrast to Tomoko's unique character design. Sucks that Tomoko's cynicism and jealousy prevents her from feeling good about cheering up her friend. Just goes to show that the pressure on a girl to be in a relationship, look pretty, and be popular does twisted things to their outlook on things. Still in spite of it all she has a surprising amount of shounen burning spirit, she retreats to the scolding of yandere boys for now but I'm sure she'll work up the courage to give it another pathetic shot.

In short, Watamote is shaping up to be the feel good show of the season for me.
 

/XX/

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A reminder that today... July, 16 (well, yesterday already in Japan), marks the day Boktai: The Sun is in Your Hand was first released a decade ago.

Kind of related to this thread because that means a decade ago the following CM, a work supervised by Nobuyoshi Nishimura, was airing on Japanese TV stations:

GBA 続ボクらの太陽 太陽少年ジャンゴ CM - YouTube
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2uxU8T1fFxY

Time goes too fast for my liking...
 

SDBurton

World's #1 Cosmonaut Enthusiast
Watamote 2

So apparently I'm the only one coming out of this episode in a good mood. The anxiety of meeting old friends followed by having a good time with them by just being yourself was all kinds of heartwarming to me. That and fat Sugita's portrait of her making her day was just fantastic. They tried to play off how trivial the picture was to make as something tragic but it just makes me appreciate how simple gestures can make a huge difference. Also doubles as a nice commentary on how bland the generic pretty girl look is especially in contrast to Tomoko's unique character design. Sucks that Tomoko's cynicism and jealousy prevents her from feeling good about cheering up her friend. Just goes to show that the pressure on a girl to be in a relationship, look pretty, and be popular does twisted things to their outlook on things. Still in spite of it all she has a surprising amount of shounen burning spirit, she retreats to the scolding of yandere boys for now but I'm sure she'll work up the courage to give it another pathetic shot.

In short, Watamote is shaping up to be the feel good show of the season for me.

Not at all, I loved the episode as well. :)
 

Dynedom

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Patlabor Early Days 03 - The 450 Million Year Old Trap

aka Patlabor Rim

So after a long gap, I've jumped back into this series. I still think the Patlabors themselves are very neat looking mecha. I love how mechanical they look as in, they're not really over-designed (the design seems functional rather than purely cosmetic). You can see how almost every part has a purpose and how it would move, interact, etc.

The overall feeling I got from this episode was a tongue-in-cheek dig at Japanese monster movies. You had the scientist who walked a fine line between lunacy and genius and I found it difficult to take him seriously or not
until the very end when his Kaiju actually showed up.

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A truly refined palate.

Funnier still are the reactions by the various characters. You have Shige who seems to be
out for some sort of bizarre revenge/mission to save humanity after his encounter with the monster
, Ohta finally got an excuse to
use his shiny new shotgun....except he can't bring himself to shoot the damn thing by the end. Being a gun nut with a conscious is suffering.
. I think my favorite reaction was Asuma who clearly
wanted to act out a Japanese monster movie. His reaction when the professor walks into the Restaurant is priceless.
.

I think the final hint that this was definitely at least partly satire was how the episode itself ended. I mean, I myself was doubting whether
there was actually a monster or if it was just some robot.
I mean, it fits within the context of the series. You're teased with the question and they finally answer it. In the end, it was purposely anticlimactic/uneventful
despite it actually being a monster
. Okay, maybe calling it uneventful is unfair seeing as how
the monster did have that noted resemblance to Yamazaki (talk about a random twist, haha). Still, monster shows up, stares and leaves and disappears forever!
.

In terms of the art, it's still a fairly pretty episode although maybe my starved desire for non-CG / handdrawn animation is skewing my views a bit here. The animation itself is very fluid .There are obviously some visual inconsistencies:

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Awkward angle leads to Matsui being a victim of what I like to call "Zordon-head"

The music for the most part is still unmemorable for me but it's not bad either. I guess it fits. The juxtaposition of dramatic music
during Yamazaki's face to face with the Kaiju
and the hilarious monologue by Asuma ("A little time passed and then...a lot") was funny though.

An interesting episode to say the least.
 
Patlabor Early Days 03 - The 450 Million Year Old Trap

I think the final hint that this was definitely at least partly satire was how the episode itself ended. I mean, I myself was doubting whether
there was actually a monster or if it was just some robot.
I mean, it fits within the context of the series. You're teased with the question and they finally answer it. In the end, it was purposely anticlimactic/uneventful
despite it actually being a monster
. Okay, maybe calling it uneventful is unfair seeing as how
the monster did have that noted resemblance to Yamazaki (talk about a random twist, haha). Still, monster shows up, stares and leaves and disappears forever!
.

In an interview, the writer of this episode, Kazunori Ito, said that he ran out of time to conclude the episode properly and so had to rush the final scenes more than he would have liked. So I don't think the anticlimactic ending is evidence of a satirical intent.
 
Casshern Sins 2

Everything is fine until Casshern appears. Then it's an inevitable descent from there for everyone.

MOTHER FUCKING FRIENDER YO! THE BEST BEFRIENDER A MAN COULD EVER HAVE!

Not too big on the cuts being done though. It feels rather jank. JUST LIKE DEM ROBOTS~
 

Tenumi

Banned
Let's Play! Suite Precure: 17


Why are you happy at this predicament, Hummy?

This was actually a pretty good episode. Nice character development for Hibiki, learning about and bonding with her mother. No Cure Muse sighting, either.
 

Dynedom

Member
Alright Metrotab, as promised. Warning: LoGH discussion!:

Legend of the Galactic Heroes - 110 (FINALE): The End of The Dream

~ The legend ends, and history begins. ~

And so the book closes, in a matter most reminiscent of Greek tragedy. No fanfare, no long speeches filled with bravura, a sacrifice so dry and uncompassionate it barely registers as an event, merely the denouement of a tale that has unfolded over the military careers of two young men in which neither truly got what he desired. I could see some might find this kind of ending anticlimactic, maybe even boring, but I loved it. It truly gave the feeling of a giant passing away in slumber.

I think the episode ended the series perfectly and opens up a lot of discussion on
the contrasting natures of Yang and Reinhard's respective deaths
. I always love discussing that with people. Overall, it was calm and poetic end to a brilliant show.

The only thing which would have made it better for me, was an epilogue, a look into the future that Reinhard and Yang had crafted. Hildegard's regency, the young Kaiser Alexander, the continued support of the High Admiralty, the new republic Heinessen, Attenborough in parliament, Julian's wedding and life... But those aren't tales part of this legend.

While I myself would have enjoyed this, that's a lot to cover in one episode and maybe it borders on "too much of a good thing". That or maybe they ran out of budget. :( Another take I like to have (to lessen the heartbreak) is that the "open-ended" nature of not having the epilogue you suggested added to the message that "life must go on". You have to imagine it yourself and come to your own conclusions on how they play out. It means that things moved on without us seeing it.

Lastly, von Oberstein's death saddens me. Von Oberstein was a character that grew on me tremendously. I didn't trust this traitor, and I disliked his meddling in Reinhard's affairs, especially concerning Kircheis' position in the Fleet. But throughout the series, he proved a loyal and highly skilled servant, who was willing to attract all negativity and hatred towards his position, in order to let the Kaiser shine more. And, he had a dog he clearly loved. That's a bonus point for me.
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You know what question I'm about to ask you:
Do you think he purposely took that explosion for the Kaiser?
Oberstein was a necessary character to the series and to Reinhard. Jexhius put it best at one point in that Oberstein did the things no-one wanted to do but had to be done
(allowing for an entire civilization to get nuked clearly cements his dark determination)
.

Thoughts on the series:

I'm not good at writing analytical paragraphs, so I'm just gonna write my simple thoughts on each element of the show.

- The story was of a grand scope, rich in imagination and mature in its execution. The slow pacing is often derided, but fitted me perfectly. At some point, around season 2, the pacing and the developments of the storyline became so well crafted, I nearly got addicted to the show. It just got better and better each episode. Although this crescendo wasn't maintained, overall watching one or two episodes LoGH was a highlight of the day. It felt like reading a good book, just before going to bed.

I admit that on my second watch last year, I marathoned the shit out of this series. I think for a first viewing, what you suggested laster on in your post is correct. Take it 1-2 episodes a day. There is a large cast of characters, multiple plot threads and you have to really soak it all in. If you have a great memory, then marathon away. I found that I'd usually through an entire arc (or parts of an arc) at a time. Generally, if there was a cliffhanger, I'd keep going. The series really does suck you in once it gets going. I could never stop during the major battles. I just kept watching into the wee hours of the night.

- I feel very confident putting this work of art (because this show definitely is art, irregardless for the contempt one might have for works of animation) in the small list of transcendent masterpieces. If I were to compare it to a similar work in other media, I am leaning towards Tolstoy's War and Peace (which, I wonder, might have formed some inspiration for the original author of LoGH?) and the Wagnerian opera's (which share the same grandiose cadre).

I have to agree with this. It's a show that truly transcends it's medium. I'd put this up against the great sci-fi novels, movies, live-action TV series and whatever else you can throw in. It stuck the amazing the amazing balance you talked about below and it was, at the end of the day, a character driven show. My definition of a space opera is such that it has to be character driven. This was LoGH in a nutshell.

- LoGH's combination of starfleet battles (sometimes incredibly tense), diplomatic maneuvering and political one-upmanship proved infectious. As someone who is in love with grand strategy games (unfortunately without much skill), LoGH suited my interests in that regard completely. What is most surprising is the amount of humor it contains, mostly of the cynical variety. Yang's crew especially had these in large amounts, with the constant bickering between Poplan, Attenborough and Schenkopf taking most of the stage. There were some funny moments too, like von Eisenach speaking and Reinhard's enormeous flower bouquet and even larger blushes.

You get a real sense of history when watching this show. When I talk about events, I feel like I'm reciting something from a history text. I can't relate any other show I've watched to a similar experience. The only other works in any medium that is comparable is the Tolkienverse. The constant chess games, who the key players were, etc. You really invest a lot into the series.

I agree with your point about the humor and the character interactions. It brought a sense of humanity to the whole thing. It's a bit weird to describe but I felt that the characters were still grounded in reality.

- The characters were incredible. Not everyone got to share the same amount of attention, but throughout the show you really start to like and get familiar with these men and women of war. Mittermeyer, von Oberstein, Bucock, von Bittenfeld, von Reuental, Poplan, Cazellnu, etcetera, etcetera, these are names I don't think I will ever forget. I personally am partial towards the Imperial High Admiralty, who functioned as some kind of legendary Crown Council filled with the most competent men available, a pool of resources any monarch would dream. On the other hand, the trio of Poplan-Attenborough-von Schenkopf gave this show much of its spirit and light-hearted tones. But both crews will stay with me for a long time.

There will come a day when I have an encyclopedic knowledge of the characters in this show and I will feel damn proud. Damn proud. A related point to this, which I'd like your opinion, is that one of my main takeaways from this show was not so much how characters lived but how they died. Morbid I know but I walk away from LoGH with almost every named character's death having some sort of impact/meaning. I'm not talking about the obvious main/major characters but I just felt that death in this series always had some meaning. It fed into backstories, prophecies, metaphors, key events, progressions, you name it. Contrast this to a Tomino work where literally 80% of the cast can die and with little meaning at all. LoGH just has a masterful way of handling its characters and their roles in the bigger picture. I mean, yes there were some "throwaway" deaths but I honestly believe they're in the minority.

- The music, well, what's to say about the music? An amazing collection of classical music, and it all fitted the show beautifully. Not to be elitist, but classical music has this grace other genres find hard to approximate, and it was an excellent cadre for this show. The opening bars of Mahler's Third Symphony specifically will always be connected with LoGH for me.

Wholeheartedly agree. Music is a huge takeaway for me from this series. It was just so elegantly done. I can't imagine LoGH with anything but a cladsical soundtrack. I hope that doesn't make me sound elitist either. I remember Symphony No 1 in C-Minor by Buckner being in the series somewhere. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp1sG09g3Kc. Can you have starship battles to anything but stuff like this?

- The artwork is harsh and uninviting, and probably is its toughest component for modern viewers. Luckily, I have no eye for the graphical arts, and I felt it was at least very functional. I did enjoy the lavish Renaissance themes for the Empire. Neo-Prussia? A weird thing about the art is how it manages to embed its own charm. I'm sure others can explain this better, but to me, it clicked and 'felt' right once I got over the age it showed.

There are certainly some pretty looking backdrops and scenes in the show but I would never champion the series' cause by how it looks. It will always be about overall direction, music, story, characterization, etc. I mean, the series wasn't ugly and we can be thankful for that.

- Lastly, the dialogue was amazing. Each episode I tried to pick one line that best represented the matter and insights at hand, and sometimes it was difficult choosing between several quips. Yang Wenli, specifically, was the leader in this department. Great writing there.

The dialog made the series. Obsertein's cold and calculated nature, Kircheis' somehwat stoic yet warm one. The interactions between Kircheis and Reinhard, Yang and Dusty/Minci. I mean, it goes on and on. The voice acting itself I thought was spot on too. People may dismiss LoGH as 80% discussion, 20% action and they may be right. It's just that the talking is good.

And that's the end of an amazing, months-long journey. It's not always easy for me to write down my thoughts on art work, mostly because I am more emotive than thoughtful while enjoying it, but it was fun to write this little logbook. I hope everyone enjoyed reading them. I was very wary to avoid spoilers in the quotes and the images (I think), so I hope others might feel inspired to pick this show up.

I specifically forbade myself from marathoning portions of this show, just so I could absorb the emotional tension more, and I'm glad I did so. I would advise everyone to watch this show at their leisure.

This show gets, what else, a rating of 10/10. It joins a couple of other anime, but in honesty surpasses those. It's really quite unique.

Prosit!

And now I feel the hole one gets after finishing a marvelous novel.

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Dynedom

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In an interview, the writer of this episode, Kazunori Ito, said that he ran out of time to conclude the episode properly and so had to rush the final scenes more than he would have liked. So I don't think the anticlimactic ending is evidence of a satirical intent.

Okay. Then it was at the least a tribute.
 
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