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Microsoft: Xbox One reversals haven't hurt us; "we're in an enviable position"
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They are like rouge washing machine on max centrifuge
Deadly Joker
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LocoCycle is played with a controller.
Man-is-Obsolete
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To be fair to him, it is game developer's jobs to create fun and unique experience that aren't just Dancing and a Sports mini game collection.
It's not his job to create those type of games. The platform needs a wider variety of games, and I think it is a legitimate complaint to leverage towards Kinect especially now that MS is packing it in to every purchase and has shown very little being developed for it and moved one of their premier games, Ryse, to traditional controls. It seems like MS is abandoning Kinect rather than giving it the support one would expect with a mandatory pack in.
Hence "normally."
Hilarious.
Yeah after they kept screaming to the public that things couldn't be changed at the flip of a switch and to buy a 360 if they want to play games offline they seemed to have found a switch conveniently not too long after abysmal pre order numbers were shown to them,
Unprecedented
Wasn't asking him to come up with a game idea. I was asking him what he wanted.
Okay
Well technically he's right, they are in an enviable position if they completely ignore Sony and the PS4.
What Microsoft need to do, is have consistent years of not messing up and have a strong proper exclusive line-up of games, what Microsoft can do before launch is go back in time and re-do their initial unveil where they didn't have to make any of the 180's in the first place.
What Microsoft need to do, is have consistent years of not messing up and have a strong proper exclusive line-up of games, what Microsoft can do before launch is go back in time and re-do their initial unveil where they didn't have to make any of the 180's in the first place.
I've just spat out my drink. Fucking bullshit.Microsoft said:
So you're more than willing to take it up the ass when the times comes? Wow.
And? None of that goes against the notion of them being agile as a company in regards to the Xbox One's development.
eh, look at the price difference of the PS3 and X360 at launch, it didn't kill the PS3
You really think the market has shifted its perception of this product?
Unprecedented agility.
NeoGAF is an fairly savvy community and is able to see when someone is trying the bend them over with only copper grease for lube....
The point is this statement is an arrogant mess and saying they're in an enviable position when frankly they aren't is hilarious.
You been defending them since DRMess so I don't think I should even respond to you anymore anyway.
BibiMaghoo
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''We want''
No MS, you clearly didn't 'want' to offer that to customers, hence why you didn't. Instead, the word you are looking for is 'made'. You were made to offer these things.
Say it like it is, then maybe people can start to believe you are not in fact, massive cnuts.
No MS, you clearly didn't 'want' to offer that to customers, hence why you didn't. Instead, the word you are looking for is 'made'. You were made to offer these things.
Say it like it is, then maybe people can start to believe you are not in fact, massive cnuts.
Define market. Who are we talking about? NeoGAF? Average Joe Shopper?
Either way, that's marketing's job, no?
Whiteshirt
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It didn't because the PS3 has the benefit of being the best priced Blu-Ray player that also played games as well.
But it was pretty dire until the PS Slim redeisgn. Sony did a lot of work to make the PS3 a viable console.
robertsan21
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Wow, they just dont stop do they.
Its just so sad.
I cant wait for the pre order numbers and sale numbers.
Its just so sad.
I cant wait for the pre order numbers and sale numbers.
After the holiday the price very much slowed down PS3 adoption.
I remember the Game Boy Advance/ PS3 battle gifs.
As far as I can tell they didn't redefine jack,
the high value customer still hate them for the shit they tried to pull and the others either don't care or are not buying it either.
That's marketing job to convince the customers that their product is worth parting with their money but clearly there's no indication that the market view them any differently than they did before.
If you listen to MSFT PR Surface is wild success after all.
Phoenix Fang
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Except he isn't lying thou. He is telling the truth so maybe you should stop telling him not to say what's on his mind.
in my humble opinion, MSFT tried to fuck us, DRM, used games, always online, 24 hour check, forced kinect, less powerful HW and $100 more.
They removed some "features" but we don't know if the will simply flip the switch in the future, besides all that, I don't like their focus on entertainment that are NOT games, fuck that.
They removed some "features" but we don't know if the will simply flip the switch in the future, besides all that, I don't like their focus on entertainment that are NOT games, fuck that.
If that was true, every Apple thread would also be target for insta-derails. It just happens to be that the Anti MS brigade is way more vocal or perhaps OT is more civilized
I'm curious about the UK numbers, the XB1 will sell great in the US as all of the features will be available but in it's former(?) UK stronghold this could be bad
Prince Vultan
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It's also a cross-gen title coming out on 360 as well. Up-port basically.
You guys are touching on stuff that's not present within anything I've posted. I said that Microsoft was agile as a company in regards to the way they handeled the Xbox One. Whether the shift is fruitful is certainly up for debate, as is the notion that they may have done irreparable with their initial vision, but there's no arguing that the changes they've made over the last 3 or so months have been the very definition of agile.
They reacted to product concerns in advance of actually launching. They're coming off a strong generation, and they have a lot of software support and a few features that differentiate them from competitors. I see where they're coming from. I still wouldn't have said it that way. Strong posturing isn't a smart move at this stage in the game, even if they think they deserve it.
I did. I was definitely convinced that I wasn't ordering an Xbox One when they revealed all the DRM. After the 180, I was back on the train.
I'm sure I'm not the only one.
The Frankman
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Microsoft - More Spins Than A Cold Rinse Cycle.
So that he can be chastised?
Called insecure? Accused of victimism? I've been there. It sucks.
Pound_lb003
Member
$500 does not get spent by ANY practical man, on a console (neither does $400).
There is an awful lot of emotion involved in parting with that much money, it's not a mechanical or functional decision.
And the message the mainstream received during E3, is what kills that feeling/emotion. It's not cool, it's not edgy. It's hapless and greedy - and Microsoft's reversals haven't had the same kind of coverage.
So, I am extremely interested to see how this impacts them. But I'd be erring on the side of caution, rather than talking about being in an enviable position.
There is an awful lot of emotion involved in parting with that much money, it's not a mechanical or functional decision.
And the message the mainstream received during E3, is what kills that feeling/emotion. It's not cool, it's not edgy. It's hapless and greedy - and Microsoft's reversals haven't had the same kind of coverage.
So, I am extremely interested to see how this impacts them. But I'd be erring on the side of caution, rather than talking about being in an enviable position.
Goodacre0081
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that is a good thing. I don't think we should forgive and forget so hastily and the bad news is obviously still trickling down to consumers.
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