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[GribbleGrunger]

“Ten years ago, you could argue that a console’s power was summed up in terms of a few of its specs, but Xbox One is designed as a powerful machine to deliver the best blockbuster games today and for the next decade.

Xbox One architecture is much more complex than what any single figure can convey. It was designed with balanced performance in mind, and we think the games we continue to show running on near-final hardware demonstrate that performance. In the end, we’ll let the consoles and their games speak for themselves.”

original source provided:

http://kotaku.com/report-ps4-is-50-...m_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

Near final hardware? At first I thought this was old news but having followed the source it is indeed to do with the recent EDGE article. In which case, how can it be 'near final hardware' if they've already started to ship the console? They posted pictures up to prove it didn't they?

 

[Diddy Kong]

This gon' be good

 

[Ricerocket]

near-final means they havn't added the dGPU in yet.

 

[R3TRODYCE]

Eh, graphically both consoles have impressed me so I won't discount either.

 

[ekim]

Near final hardware? At first I thought this was old news but having followed the source it is indeed to do with the recent EDGE article. In which case, how can it be 'near final hardware' if they've already started to ship the console? They posted pictures up to prove it didn't they?



original source provided:

http://kotaku.com/report-ps4-is-50-...m_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

They showed the games on near final HW at GC and co. and will show on Tgs and Eurogamer Expo.

 

[Fracas]

This is getting ridiculous.

Not the thread I mean, just the constant back and forth between PR machines.

 

[mangochutney]

They mean they're demo'ing games on units that are near-final hardware at PAX, gamescom etc.

So yes they're boxing up final hardware but footage and hands-on are on the older, near-final units. Which are probably identical, except the overclocks hardware wise.

 

[fantomena]

 

[potam]

In summary:

Microsoft: "Nuh uh!"

 

[titiklabingapat]

The PR department should pat itself in the back. It's a pretty good response that neither admits or denies anything.

 

[Zuhzuhzombie!!]

Xbox being more complex is a hindrance to its power, not a boon.

 

[Captain Tuttle]

Man they're really back on their heels, huh?

Painful to watch

 

[maplelord93]

don't know what any of you expect them to say other than this.

 

[Prince Vultan]

we’ll let the consoles and their games speak for themselves.

So why respond to the article at all?

 

[Eggbok]

Well they didn't deny that the PS4 was better sooo.......

 

[Spaaaaaaaaace]

I kinda wish I could hear Major Nelsons thoughts on this, also CBOAT. I thought MN signed up to participate in these debates. Anyway, I'm getting a PS4 not only for the power, but because how MS has treated their consumers lately. Mostly before the 180.

 

[Chamber]

Not sure why they even bothered to respond, especially just to say nothing.

 

[slicedmass]

my old 8800gts q6600 2.4ghz 4GB ddr2 dual channel rig is pretty balanced, runs like shit though. (these days)

 

[CrunchyFrog]

 

[Pound_lb003]

The PR department should pat itself in the back. It's a pretty good response that neither admits or denies anything.

Yep, this is the only good response.

Well done.

 

[GetemMa]

 

[Speedy Blue Dude]

Near final hardware? At first I thought this was old news but having followed the source it is indeed to do with the recent EDGE article. In which case, how can it be 'near final hardware' if they've already started to ship the console? They posted pictures up to prove it didn't they?



original source provided:

http://kotaku.com/report-ps4-is-50-...m_source=Kotaku_Twitter&utm_medium=Socialflow

Uhh... read the quote again? Think you might be interpreting that wrong.

think the games we continue to show running on near-final hardware demonstrate that performance

we continue to show running on near-final hardware

Everything they've shown so far have been on Dev-Kits. Have we seen any new footage that wasn't from PAX recently, which was still running on old builds and dev-kits? They haven't shown any new game footage yet, and all old footage WAS on old builds.

 

[bidguy]

thats wii u right

 

[Mugatu]

Isn't this a bit like the Angry Joe comment? There's a hint of "you're too dumb to understand this stuff, just take our word for it."

I might be off base though, I just think this argument would be a lot more effective if they stopped talking stressing specs themselves.

 

[mangochutney]

The PR department should pat itself in the back. It's a pretty good response that neither admits or denies anything.

Which is as good as admitting it.

If it's false you nip it in the bud, and give your reasons why.

If it's true, but negative for you, you don't acknowledge it and try to divert the conversation onto other things, a la 'did you see Ryse on our near-final console'.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Translation: we are blackmailing and bribing publishers so they don't shame us by releasing better looking games on ps4..

 

[Thai]

It was designed with balanced performance in mind

Yea, well, PS4 was designed with maximum performance in mind!

 

[anexanhume]

LOL did we mention ten years ago we launched the console with the best specs?


edit: They're saying near final hardware because they can do day 1 firmware updates to up clocks.

 

[Derrick01]

"We'll let the games speak for themselves until we feel like going onto forums and spreading FUD about the clear specs advantage our competitor has".

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Typical PR stuff. I mean they are not going to say that the PS4 totally blows them out of the water.

 

[funkystudent]

Sure.

I would rather they say some BS like that then try and spout some tech buzz words to confuse people.

 

[monlo]

I really wish MS responded saying the Xbone Cloud would help match the PS4 in pure speed

 

[Vashetti]

One day specs don't matter, the next day they're upclocking to boost the specs

No consistency with MS at all.

 

[maplelord93]

So why respond to the article at all?

because sites kept asking for a response? damned if they do, damned if they don't.

 

[BruceLeeRoy]

Good response and its all that needs to be said.

"We believe in our product and will let the games do the talking"

nuff said.

 

[Zok310]

Awwww poor kid.

 

[Fox_Mulder]

arthur gies told us xbone is more efficient and balanced first

 

[maplelord93]

One day specs don't matter, the next day they're upclocking to boost the specs

No consistency with MS at all.

you do know the product was a work in progress, you just don't up-clock in a single day.

 

[Proelite]

Should have said we believe there is more to games than just graphics, and Kinect 2.0 provides an unparalleled gaming experience.

 

[legacyzero]

 

[VanWinkle]

They didn't say the article was wrong. So gather from that what you will.

They do have a point that the games are more important than the graphics, though. And I'm sure Xbox One will have some great games.

 

[ethomaz]

lol they got hurt.

 

[Cels]

The PR department should pat itself in the back. It's a pretty good response that neither admits or denies anything.

i don't know about "pretty good," it's pretty standard to give a non-answer when you are in a position of weakness like MS is with respect to hardware power

 

[Beermeister]

PlayStation 4 is currently around 50% faster than its rival Xbox One.

Xbox One architecture is much more complex than what any single figure can convey.

50%

EDGE - Microsoft 1-0.

 

[maplelord93]

Should have said we believe there is more to games than just graphics, and Kinect 2.0 provides an unparalleled gaming experience.

that would have been an epic fail, peoples response would be kinect isnt going to give you 50% power

 

[leakey]

OP Microsoft will deliver, right?

 

[DragonSworne]

How exactly is the Xbox One architecture balanced?

It looks like a mess to me.

 

[AranhaHunter]

IMHO, MS execs are right in saying, "wait for the games".

 

[ethomaz]

near-final means they havn't added the dGPU in yet.

Everybody knows it is a post-launch accessory jk

 

[RoKKeR]

Oh boy.