Or, you know, they might just really like the game.
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Grand Theft Auto V - review thread [Embargo 3pm BST/7am PST]
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Or, you know, they might just really like the game.
I don't know about the combat as a whole but I saw one gif in the spoiler thread where a punch was thrown and I actually cringed and said "holy shit". It looked that painful....and good.
Good ol' szaromir. Just remember to breathe buddy. Don't want that blood pressure getting too high.
Escapist Review comments are hilarious. Everyone complains that he's "docking" the game for something that sounds appealing to them. Hasn't the review done it's job then? You gleaned information from it and decided that it's something you would like, yet all they can focus on are the stars at the bottom of it.
tripskylark
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oh shit what the hell, people like good video games? damn
flyinpiranha
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I should have said "could". This isn't that far fetched, we don't know how long digital footprints in society will last. Look at some of the topical literature and history we use now to interpret past happenings. Comics, one off books that weren't even popular at the time but became part of 'education'.
But whatever, I sense his genuine excitement and his want for videogames to be part of cultural history so I see the quote as an optimistic look at future generations looking back. Kind of like watching a 1950's sitcom and listening to all the references.
I can see it being taken as hyperbolic nonsense or as a statement coming from a hopeful and maybe a bit doe-eyed person looking at the industry. But it's a far cry from "masturbatory whatever".
King of the Potato People
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The Lost and the Damned was an example, the story was so dreary and the characters so irredeemable that I didn’t see the point of it.
Completely agree with red dead, game play was awesome, it set a new open world standard then, especially with the graphics too....story was also rather moving
GTA had fps issues on both consoles (for me anyway) and didnt really DIG Nico...
From what I seen of GTA 5, it seems every bit worth a 10/10, I dont suspect anything off at all, altho will hold full reservation until I complete it, but come on, 5 years in development, £170m/$265 and some are up in arms
Fine Ham Abounds
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I think the problem with every one of Sessler's reviews (at least of late, I never really followed the guy before this year) is that they end up saying more about him than the stuff he's reviewing. I'm not sure there's a great deal really wrong with that, but at the same time, how can you not roll your eyes when someone tells you Bioshock Infinite's plotline should be compared with Chinatown and Waiting for Godot?
It's not that the sentiment is inherently wrong, or that games should not or could not eventually be compared to literary works, it's that it's meaningless to compare unlike things using the same measuring stick, especially when there's an undeniable gulf in the level of maturity and weight of both media. I mean, I could tell you that watching Top Gun with surround sound is like making love to the Easter Bunny, but unless you've done both, what the fuck good is that information to you, and does that say more about me or Top Gun?
It's not that the sentiment is inherently wrong, or that games should not or could not eventually be compared to literary works, it's that it's meaningless to compare unlike things using the same measuring stick, especially when there's an undeniable gulf in the level of maturity and weight of both media. I mean, I could tell you that watching Top Gun with surround sound is like making love to the Easter Bunny, but unless you've done both, what the fuck good is that information to you, and does that say more about me or Top Gun?
weekend_warrior
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I like the last line from the Edge review-
Well, Last of Us was certainly worthy (despite its framerate troubles). Infinite was also of very high quality. It's not as if they didn't deserve a lot of the praise. There were issues one could raise about what they were or were not but the end result was still great.
This is the guy who cried and bashed a trophy name...
Well Bioshock Infinite and Last of Us are both without a doubt utterly superlative works so I dont see the problem.
LapinAgile
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It really isn't a dumb thing to say. We live in a very short term "relevancy bubble", if I stepped out today wearing 90's attire and adopting it's slang people would think I was either nuts or being funny. Time is constantly eroding the prior generations relevance into a new normal, my nieces will never believe computers didn't have touch screens (they will learn it I am sure, it just won't be important to their reality) And that's what he is getting at, the game is like a juiced up infomercial of how we live now. We see the satire because that is our reality now, people in future generations will lack the insight we have and take it as is. This isn't an English lit argument, it's about how generations view the world as time passes. And for the record I don't think it was a dumb thing to say. Maybe for someone who only lives in the "now".
Ultimadrago
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Can't Waittttt
I too am looking forward to it. It's always a good laugh inevitably seeing a number of posters riled up about it getting good scores. I'm ready to get my hands on it!
I said "some of you", and what some of you guys are saying is equivalent to having to say "in my opinion" anytime someone gives an opinion. It's unnecessary, and if your "that guy" I'm talking about, well than you know who you are.
last of us deserved it. GTA IV deserved it at the time. Bioshock Infinite could not have deserved it less, reviewers were paid off there.
I think this ones definately a case of deserving all praise
Same here. Also the Eurogamer excerpts
The fucking exact same problem as IV (and most other 'oscar winning' Rockstar stories). Reads like some serious moneyhatting / afraid to get fanboy ire for EG to still give it a 9 after that. A 9 for a game that can't even remain interesting for the first playthrough and sustain its own narrative. Boggles my mind.
SolidSnakeUS
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Anyone see how the Gamespot review went off in a few areas on how they treat women? In a game where you kill, crash, maim and so on for pleasure and fun, treating women in a poor light is crossing the line... what?
Burgess_101
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See I would say The Last of Us is grossly overrated.
Same here, I loved RDR but GTAIV was a big disappointment IMO.
I'll wait for some impressions from gaf before getting too excited about the game.
TheContact
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Its been up for an hour and a half. 9.8
I don't know how many more times I have to say it but I understood what he was saying.
opticalmace
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I feel like this should be printed and framed somewhere.
WrenchNinja
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That's an unusual amount of perfects.
I feel less convinced.
I feel less convinced.
Clearly they did that to touch on the recent fiasco regarding females in gta and houser saying F that
SparkleMotion
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It will still be hard to top The Last of Us for my personal game of the year, as that felt unlike anything I had ever played before.
Deadly Cyclone
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This is an interesting example. The first season has a 74 MC score, the second 85 and the consecutive seasons ramp up even higher. I wonder if the increasing popularity of the show influenced the reviewers or it genuinely gets better. Or the ones that reviewed the show lowly didn't bother watching the following seasons. I stopped watching midway through the second season as the show was getting more and more boring, so I have no idea how to explain this.
Not really. I just have a hard time imagining any game being universally loved by every single person on the planet, particularly one as highly flawed as GTA games have historically been. That's why I would like to see examples in cinema/books, and one has been actually delivered.
The new "Oscar worthy story"
AyaisMUsikWhore
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Which is thoroughly not true based on popular opinion. It deserved all the praise it got seeing as for an overused genre, it was the best there is.
MiamiWesker
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Why should the story have that much impact in a game where you can spend 50 + hours doing whatever you want. You story focused people are ridiculous, WE PLAY VIDEO GAMES, we don't watch them.
I am getting really sick of every review being about story first and gameplay second, everything is backwards. I honestly dont give three craps what the reviewer thinks about the story.
I understand why Sessler rubs some people the wrong way, his style isn't exactly the most subtle around, but I don't think it's as bad as what you describe. I mean you mentioned three games. That's three out of probably hundreds that have come out this year. It's okay if a few of them are great :lol
SkyTurnsRed
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I was going to come in and say this.
Personal attacks from Fjordson without any arguments whatsoever. That's a new one
He said that?!
LapinAgile
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Lol ok. Agree to disagree then. I know you understood, but I take umbrage with your interpretation. Back to hyping the hype!
chickdigger802
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I can't see any of the protags being high level martial artists, but as long as combat isn't that weirdly robotic thing that was in GTAIV, RDR, and la noire, ill live.
sleeping dogs quenched my thirst for open world melee anyways
Charles Dickens is the Dark Souls of English lit. comparisons.
We play because of motive.
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