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[David H Wong]

3770, 8 GB and 2GB VRAM video card was considered mid range in 2011?

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

 

[Sethos]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

Uhh, someone's bitter.

 

[Nethaniah]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

Oh boy.

 

[Durante]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

Wow. Do you feel better now?

 

[hooijdonk17]

I meet the minimum specs. Barely. Lol.

 

[shem935]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

But how does it make you feel? *sits on psychologists comfy couch*

 

[MaLDo]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

This meet minimum requeriments of Watch Dogs (a bit better, because 3.8 ghz cpu, 8 GB RAM and 2 GB VRAM) for 430 €.

www.pccomponentes.com/pccly/Ed3b5dC2

You can buy win7x64 licence for 30$


Important thing here is, when you walk to pc gaming, you discover a new world of better graphics and framerate for your bucks and then you have to draw your own limit. And that will be higher than what this 430€ pc could offer. Your mind only accepts restrictions in resolution, effects, vsync, aliasing and framerate when you buy a console. Then all is suddenly ok (as long as it is a bit better than your rival console).

Think about this:

You will pay a few more bucks if you can buy a ps4 special edition that run Shadowfall at 60 fps? And a few more to play DriveClub at 60 fps? And a few more to avoid vsync problems in every PS4 game until 2018? And..... so on.

You'd be surprised to discover that each ps4 buyer would pay a different price becuase preferences. In pc gaming you can set your own limit. In consoles, you only can hope developers will fix that vsync issues, distracting aliasing or performance problems you are seeing in that trailer.

 

[Geoff9920]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

Looks like someone forgot to take his meds this morning.

 

[jet1911]

Wow. Do you feel better now?

A new gen is about to begin, the meltdown season is incoming.

 

[silentQ]

Anybody who has the Core i5 3570K, I just got done overclocking my processor in light of this announcement and I got it 4.3 GHZ and it ran stress tests for 6 hours straight and it never got over 66 C so I wouldn't worry about running this game on an i5 3570K. Its obvious this processor still has a lot of wiggle room and its already more than enough for the recommended processor specs.

Bring it Watch_Dogs.

 

[captainnapalm]

Sigh, I've been soldiering on with my old quad core and 4 gigs of ram for years, but I guess that's it.

 

[VillageBC]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

Technically, $494 but that didn't include an OS(Well SteamOS =)) or keyboard/mouse/controller. But it was an FX-6300, 8gb RAM + 7850. So shouldn't really have any issues running this coming generation of games.

Of course, if are already a PC gamer then you could just spend $400 on a GPU and you're set. =)

 

[iceatcs]

Goddammit. Just one more generation my GPU is over (GTX560). Never thought it will be that short.
8 cores, already!

It seem require to have a big upgrade on my PC tower if I want keep it gaming for another 3 years. Better wording, a NEW pc.

 

[RSTEIN]

Anybody who has the Core i5 3570K, I just got done overclocking my processor in light of this announcement and I got it 4.3 GHZ and it ran stress tests for 6 hours straight and it never got over 66 C so I wouldn't worry about running this game on an i5 3570K. Its obvious this processor still has a lot of wiggle room and its already more than enough for the recommended processor specs.

Bring it Watch_Dogs.

I have a 3570k at 4.4Ghz but I'm getting slightly worried about these games recommending i7s. I think I'll be good but I wonder if the raw speed of an overclocked 3570 won't be as good as a processor with virtual cores due to the fact that they're making the games for 8 core Xbone/PS4.

 

[diffusionx]

But it was an FX-6300, 8gb RAM + 7850. So shouldn't really have any issues running this coming generation of games.

I don't think this will be the case.

Consoles are fixed platforms but developers can and do target better PC hardware over time.

 

[KKRT00]

Good thing then that I'm not getting the PS3 or the 360 version if that is a concern.

WiiU version is current-gen, its the same performance ratio as PS3 and 360, so it will run about the same as them.

 

[iNvid02]

Haven't you heard? You can build a PC that can run any game for $400. They say so in every single PC vs Console war thread. And you can play it on your comfy couch with a game pad with no problems or hassle whatsoever! Totally! Really! You can! YOU CAN, DAMN IT!!!

i bet thats a load off your chest

 

[silentQ]

I have a 3570k at 4.4Ghz but I'm getting slightly worried about these games recommending i7s. I think I'll be good but I wonder if the raw speed of an overclocked 3570 won't be as good as a processor with virtual cores due to the fact that they're making the games for 8 core Xbone/PS4.

Agreeded, I have my worries but I think for at least the first 2-3 years as far as playing console ports the 3570k should do the trick maybe late cycle might be a problem but by that point it might be beneficial to upgrade anyway for other high end games.

 

[Windom Earle]

Hmm, feels weird to not be far above recommended... I feel a storm is coming. Or the usual shit Ubi port.

 

[Barrel Cannon]

We are probably reaching the point where current gen consoles will start receiving barebones downports like the PS2 did in 2006-2008. If they have a separate build for watchdogs on XB1/PS4, it makes sense that the PC requirements would be for that build.

That said, after 4 years (and one vid card upgrade), it looks like we have finally reached the point where my rig is just treading water over that minimum specs line... When my wife finishes mat leave, it will be time for a new build.

lol... that's what you think

 

[RSTEIN]

Agreeded, I have my worries but I think for at least the first 2-3 years as far as playing console ports the 3570k should do the trick maybe late cycle might be a problem but by that point it might be beneficial to upgrade anyway for other high end games.

Yeah, I really want to wait until 20nm cards hit. Hopefully 3570k/770 can last 2 years or so.

 

[chickdigger802]

I have a 3570k at 4.4Ghz but I'm getting slightly worried about these games recommending i7s. I think I'll be good but I wonder if the raw speed of an overclocked 3570 won't be as good as a processor with virtual cores due to the fact that they're making the games for 8 core Xbone/PS4.

no point in waiting now. wait for them to come out and figure out your bottleneck



I really hope watch_dogs has detailed video preferences. Let me turn off all the fancy debris physics and rain physics for 20 more fps.

 

[Effect]

WiiU version is current-gen, its the same performance ratio as PS3 and 360, so it will run about the same as them.

Until otherwise proven that's not the case as far as I'm concerned. So I will not believe that. The Wii U is more capable then the PS3/360. Period. That shouldn't even be up for debate and I'm not going to debate that. Assassin's Creed 4 is said to be in between the PS3/360 and PS4/XB1 versions. Makes more sense to assume that Watch_Dogs would end up the same and not be just like the PS3/360 versions.

 

[Hayabusi]

Ok, so my 5770 isn't even compatible anymore?
Time to upgrade I think. :-D

 

[Phil0sophy]

Ram is probably one of the cheapest components inside a PC these days, I am surprised that people do not have 8GB+ as the standard these days to be honest especially if you are going to build a gaming PC, why not spend the extra 30-40 on some more ram?

 

[DESTROYA]

I hope my laptop can handle it?

MSI GT60

CPU--4800MQ--GPU 780MGTX--16GB RAM--SUPER RAID.

 

[banjoted]

I hope it blows the next gen versions away in comparison. If it's even a slightly better port than the Assassin's Creed games, I'll be happy.

edit: it is somewhat surprising that my rather new 3570k at 4.2GHz will perform worse than an 3770k. Is this coded for 8 threads?

Yes, it is, but as we saw with the Battlefield 4 beta, being optimised for 8 cores isn't necessarily resulting in better performance on an 8-core CPU if that CPU is notably inferior to a better 4 core alternative (I'm talking i5-3570k vs FX 8350 here).

Truth is an i5-3570k is going to run this nicely. Perhaps not AS nicely as an i7-3770k, but you have to ask yourself if an extra few fps or an extra level of AA is worth the extra cost or not. If you absolutely have to have the absolute best no matter what then the answer is yes. If you're happy instead with still phenomenal, next-gen beating performance that is fractionally below then the answer is no.

Either way, an i5 machine is going to very likely give significantly better results than we'll ever see on PS4 or Xbox One.

 

[PetriP-TNT]

Oh well, only like 6 more GeForce Experience updates until I can run it Ultra/60fps.

 

[Wiktor]

Those specs makes me hopefull it will look gen ahead of 360/PS3 versions. Go Ubisoft!

 

[Schweinehund]

i-7 makes me question the validity of these specs.

 

[Vinterbird]

Anybody who has the Core i5 3570K, I just got done overclocking my processor in light of this announcement and I got it 4.3 GHZ and it ran stress tests for 6 hours straight and it never got over 66 C so I wouldn't worry about running this game on an i5 3570K. Its obvious this processor still has a lot of wiggle room and its already more than enough for the recommended processor specs.

Bring it Watch_Dogs.

Do you have a link to the guide you used for overclocking?

 

[velociraptor]

Technically, $494 but that didn't include an OS(Well SteamOS =)) or keyboard/mouse/controller. But it was an FX-6300, 8gb RAM + 7850. So shouldn't really have any issues running this coming generation of games.

Of course, if are already a PC gamer then you could just spend $400 on a GPU and you're set. =)

But the point is that a 7850 is not good enough. You likely need a 7970 to play these console ports at an acceptable framerate at minimum.

 

[AstroZombie]

But the point is that a 7850 is not good enough. You likely need a 7970 to play these console ports at minimum.

You're either overestimating the next-gen consoles or developer incompetence.

 

[Ryoku]

But the point is that a 7850 is not good enough. You likely need a 7970 to play these console ports at minimum.

Lolwut

 

[velociraptor]

You're either overestimating the next-gen consoles of developer incompetence.

I mentioned the 7970 for two reasons.
1. 60FPS
2. So the card can last an entire generation

 

[silentQ]

Do you have a link to the guide you used for overclocking?

http://www.overclock.net/t/1291703/ivy-bridge-overclocking-guide-asus-motherboards

I went pretty by the book with the guide it only took a couple of minutes to put all the settings into the bios settings. It said to start with 43(4.3GHZ) as your multiplier and 1.200V for your cpu voltage settings and move up and down from there but after doing that I was more than happy with that original setting so I just kept it and ran the long stress tests on it with Prime95. Also it recommends doing a 12 Hour Stress test but after running for 6 hours nothing was moving as far the temperature it was super stable at 66 C tops and idle at 34 C give or take a degree.

My specs:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/silentq15/saved/2kIe

 

[kharma45]

But the point is that a 7850 is not good enough. You likely need a 7970 to play these console ports at minimum.

hahaha no

 

[Durante]

But the point is that a 7850 is not good enough. You likely need a 7970 to play these console ports at minimum.

No, you need a HD5850 to play this game at minimum. It says so in the OP.

I mentioned the 7970 for two reasons.
1. 60FPS
2. So the card can last an entire generation

That's not "at minimum". In fact, for this particular game, 60 FPS is already twice of what the "next-gen" console versions achieve.

 

[AstroZombie]

I mentioned the 7970 for two reasons.
1. 60FPS
2. So the card can last an entire generation

This is very different from what you've previously said.

 

[velociraptor]

This is very different from what you've previously said.

You're right.

Post amended.

OK, a 7850 might run this game. But at what framerate? resolution? settings? I'm positive that the card will struggle next year as we transition into the new generation. I would be very surprised if this card would run the PC version as good as the console version all things considered.

The entire draw of playing games on the PC is that they are superior compared to console ports. If it can't run at 60FPS, then what is the point?

 

[iceatcs]

But the point is that a 7850 is not good enough. You likely need a 7970 to play these console ports at an acceptable framerate at minimum.

Don't forgot most high end GPUs not really made for 1080p, but for much higher than 1080p like 2K or crazy 4K.
So most of these GPUs are way good enough for 1080p.

But I do agree 7850 won't last all next gen (if it will more than 5 years). Maybe okay for few years.

 

[Unai]

I can't wait for the digital foundry threads.

 

[angular graphics]

The entire draw of playing games on the PC is that they are superior compared to console ports. If it can't run at 60FPS, then what is the point?

Really now..

 

[Durante]

The entire draw of playing games on the PC is that they are superior compared to console ports. If it can't run at 60FPS, then what is the point?

That seems like an incredibly silly question to me.
In case you are serious, there are tons of reasons. Here's a start. Even at perfect technical parity I'd much rather play on PC.
And of course, even at 30 FPS you could still have superior technical aspects, such as resolution, LoD, draw distance, you name it.

 

[velociraptor]

That seems like an incredibly silly question to me.
In case you are serious, there are tons of reasons. Here's a start. Even at perfect technical parity I'd much rather play on PC.
And of course, even at 30 FPS you could still have superior technical aspects, such as resolution, LoD, draw distance, you name it.

To each to their own. I understand that PC gaming has advantages of it's own although they aren't applicable to every game you play. Now this is simply personal experience, but games which run at 30FPS on the PC somehow feel worse than 30FPS on the console. I tend to get really bad stuttering (or it just feels like crap to control) on my rig unless the framerate is +45FPS. However, Humble Bundle and Steam sales are a reason why I do most of my gaming on the PC

 

[angular graphics]

That seems like an incredibly silly question to me.
In case you are serious, there are tons of reasons. Here's a start. Even at perfect technical parity I'd much rather play on PC.
And of course, even at 30 FPS you could still have superior technical aspects, such as resolution, LoD, draw distance, you name it.

And this: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=527394

 

[KKRT00]

The entire draw of playing games on the PC is that they are superior compared to console ports. If it can't run at 60FPS, then what is the point?

I dont know maybe some people value also: Options? Full backward compatibility? Cheaper games? Free and better online? Mods? Exclusives? More freedom in terms of input devices?
That kinda stuff. You dont need 60fps, higher res or better graphics to justify getting into PC gaming, those are just some components of it.

Also, its not like You cant change that 7850 for something different and much more powerful 2-3 years from now if You want to.

 

[velociraptor]

I dont know maybe some people value also: Options? Full backward compatibility? Cheaper games? Free and better online? Mods? Exclusives? More freedom in terms of input devices?
That kinda stuff. You dont need 60fps, higher res or better graphics to justify getting into PC gaming, those are just some components of it.

Also its not like You cant change that 7850 for something different and much more powerful 2-3 years from now.

Preaching to the choir mate. I'm fully aware of this. For me, it's just about the sales and 60FPS. Nothing more, nothing less.

 

[OldAsUrSock]

You're right.

Post amended.

OK, a 7850 might run this game. But at what framerate? resolution? settings? I'm positive that the card will struggle next year as we transition into the new generation. I would be very surprised if this card would run the PC version as good as the console version all things considered.

The entire draw of playing games on the PC is that they are superior compared to console ports. If it can't run at 60FPS, then what is the point?

OC is amazing on the 7850. You should try it.

 

[Durante]

I dont know maybe some people value also: Options? Full backward compatibility? Cheaper games? Free and better online? Mods? Exclusives? More freedom in terms of input devices?
That kinda stuff. You dont need 60fps, higher res or better graphics to justify getting into PC gaming, those are just some components of it.

It still hasn't fully registered for me that you'll be expected to pay for online on both new consoles. That's a pretty important point!