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Infinity Ward ops to show PS4 footage for COD IGN vids- a series first since MS deal?

Nonentity

Member
Excited about the Marksman Rifles. We'll see, the squad stuff could be okay. I'm hyped that infinite sprinting with Marathon is back. Can't wait to knife people. Yeah, I'm that guy.
 

Skeff

Member
It's not strange, X1 was obviously planned for a spring 2014 release and everybody is still in full crunch mode to get the games out in time for launch. The PS4 versions are further ahead in development and thus are the ones shown.

CoD:ghosts is already gold, there is no more crunch time.
 

RulkezX

Member
That cannot be next gen footage.

No hyperbole, compared to BF and Killzone ( and even the TitanFall video I just watched) it looks really bad.
 

hexen

Neo Member
Watching this after the Killzone Shadowfall trailer only intensifed my indiference towards this game. This might be the first COD I skip.

true. due to the graphical benchmark of worthy next-gen launch titles, cod's engine more than ever looks dated.
 
I must say, for whatever reason online video compression ruins the look of this game more than any other I can think of. I played it at Gamestop Expo last month and it looks really crisp and nice. I will be interested to see how people feel about the visuals when it is actually running on their TVs.
 

Bailers

Member
It's not strange, X1 was obviously planned for a spring 2014 release and everybody is still in full crunch mode to get the games out in time for launch. The PS4 versions are further ahead in development and thus are the ones shown.


Even if that were true, you'd think there would be enough footage from the X1 to show at this point.

It's just very strange, almost tin foil hat strange. Why would MS not allow footage? Why would they not want their branding to go with this game's visuals? There's only one explanation that makes sense to me. I guess we'll find out in a few more weeks. I won't be surprised if something hits the fan between now and then.
 

Kacho

Member
Looks good to me. This isn't supposed to be a graphical showpiece so I'm happy with the visuals in the video. It's just a nicer looking Call of Duty. I'll have a lot of fun with this.
 

HariKari

Member
I must say, for whatever reason online video compression ruins the look of this game more than any other I can think of. I played it at Gamestop Expo last month and it looks really crisp and nice. I will be interested to see how people feel about the visuals when it is actually running on their TVs.

Look at the terrible animations and the tracers straight out of 1999. CoD needs a break and a new engine so badly.
 
Look at the terrible animations and the tracers straight out of 1999. CoD needs a break and a new engine so badly.

The animations don't look as bad when the game is actually running at 60fps. I am definitely not saying that the game will be the best looking game out there on day 1 of launch, but I think people will be pleasantly surprised when they see it in person.
 
Wow right from the start this game hits you with a bad case of the uglies. I don't understand how a franchise that sells so much gets so little invested in it.

game looks complete unchanged since for ever. Looks like an uprezzed version of the last COD.
 
That cannot be next gen footage.

No hyperbole, compared to BF and Killzone ( and even the TitanFall video I just watched) it looks really bad.
You're including Titanfall in that, really?

Titanfall looks poor for next-gen (and even then we don't know if that is PC footage or not, I don't think we've seen it confirmed on X1 yet, maybe we have).

I'd say that this and Titanfall are on a similar level. They're both Box City and there isn't high detail all over the place. To me they look like 1080p current gen games.

Nothing to make you go 'wow dem grafix', but offer a cleaner and clearer image quality than current gen games which is fine, I mean COD has never been a game to break graphical boundaries.
 

Afrikan

Member
Here's some actual gameplay

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/10/22/call-of-duty-ghosts-squads-mode-wargame-gameplay

And they do have 1080p ready to go this time.

Graphically this looks so bad, how is this seriously accepted???

I mean, I LOVED how Call of Duty 4 looked and moved.....but MY GOD this is suppose to be next gen no?

if the PS4 version really does look *better* than the X1 version, then HOLY SHIT I can't imagine how X1 version can look.

Come on Activision.. Come on maaaaaaan.
 
The animations don't look as bad when the game is actually running at 60fps. I am definitely not saying that the game will be the best looking game out there on day 1 of launch, but I think people will be pleasantly surprised when they see it in person.

I'm surprised that more sites haven't switched to a player that supports 60fps. I know Game Informer and Eurogamer have 60fps players, but those are the only two sites that I can think of.
 

RoboPlato

I'd be in the dick
I'm surprised that more sites haven't switched a player that supports 60fps. I know Game Informer and Eurogamer have 60fps players, but those are the only two sites that I can think of.

We really need 60fps players with higher bitrates to become standard.
 

p3tran

Banned
It's 1080p/60fps on XB1 and PS4, according to IW.

Originally Posted by Ravidrath

This is anecdotal from E3, but...

I've heard the architecture with the ESRAM is actually a major hurdle in development because you need to manually fill and flush it.

So unless MS's APIs have improved to the point that this is essentially automatic, the bandwidth and hardware speed are probably irrelevant.

For reference, the story going around E3 went something like this:

"ATVI was doing the CoD: Ghosts port to nextgen. It took three weeks for PS4 and came out at 90 FPS unoptimized, and four months on Xbone and came out at 15 FPS."
No way, can't be true


so what gives? these two things are so radically different that it is 100% impossible that they are both truth.

that quote that has been running about, implies putting 5:1 the work for 1/5 the result.
so "both 1080p/60" is impossible in those terms.

time to put one of the two to bed. which one?
 
I'm surprised that more sites haven't switched a player that supports 60fps. I know Game Informer and Eurogamer have 60fps players, but those are the only two sites that I can think of.

I think video quality all around is gonna have to improve for next-gen games to really shine. Thankfully we have sites like Gamersyde that are trying to release videos in as high quality as they can get away with.
 

RulkezX

Member
You're including Titanfall in that, really?

Titanfall looks poor for next-gen (and even then we don't know if that is PC footage or not, I don't think we've seen it confirmed on X1 yet, maybe we have).

I'd say that this and Titanfall are on a similar level. They're both Box City and there isn't high detail all over the place. To me they look like 1080p current gen games.

Nothing to make you go 'wow dem grafix', but offer a cleaner and clearer image quality than current gen games which is fine, I mean COD has never been a game to break graphical boundaries.

Well I just watched this video right after I watched the TitanFall video.

I said that "even" TitanFall makes this look bad, implying that TitanFall doesn't look great itself.

But have you watched this video, because compression or not, that game looks current gen, not PC current gen , stinky console current gen.

Edit : Anecdotally , I had friends at Eurogamer expo that said COD looked one of the worst games at the show.
 

Pop

Member
It does look bad but I won't fully judge from that blurry video. I never expect COD to bring the graphics(and they should at least try).
 
Yes, there are square ones too, depending on the baffling design. Also, suppressor.

Game looks like ass. I literally cannot tell the difference between that and MW2.

Textures definitely are a step up, and look sharper and more defined up close. But the rest... yeah, not that great to be honest.
 

HariKari

Member
so what gives? these two things are so radically different that it is 100% impossible that they are both truth.

that quote that has been running about, implies putting 5:1 the work for 1/5 the result.
so "both 1080p/60" is impossible in those terms.

time to put one of the two to bed. which one?

About the only thing you can read from those tea leaves is that the PS4 is less complicated and easier to develop for, which should surprise no one.
 

LowParry

Member
I don't know what you people expect when the game is going current gen and next gen. I suspect the next COD game will get the graphical push it needs.
Yeah right.

Game is fun as hell still though.
 

Skeff

Member
Forced parity tin hat?

Lazy Devs for this one, I believe that's clear to everyone an probably has been clear for a few years.

Actually not lazy devs, I'll go for greedy managers, I'm sure the Devs are working hard.

I don't know what you people expect when the game is going current gen and next gen. I suspect the next COD game will get the graphical push it needs.
Yeah right.

Game is fun as hell still though.

People probably expect something along the lines of assassins creed, it's also an annual title now, but next gen and current gen have different graphical features. This is just higher resolution.
 

StuBurns

Banned
I don't know what you people expect when the game is going current gen and next gen. I suspect the next COD game will get the graphical push it needs.
Yeah right.

Game is fun as hell still though.
Well, I remember them talking about this totally upgraded engine, but it looks the same as it has since 4 basically. Also, the Activision dude said he thought it looked better than BF4. It doesn't even look as good as BC2.

Yes, of course that stuff is marketing shit, but I at least expected them to move the needle, at least a little bit.
 

p3tran

Banned
About the only thing you can read from those tea leaves is that the PS4 is less complicated and easier to develop for, which should surprise no one.

no.
one of those two claims is true, and the other is a blatant lie.
one is the complete opposite of the other.
I cant see how you can extract any other meaning from this, unless one has textures and the other wireframes
 
so what gives? these two things are so radically different that it is 100% impossible that they are both truth.

that quote that has been running about, implies putting 5:1 the work for 1/5 the result.
so "both 1080p/60" is impossible in those terms.

time to put one of the two to bed. which one?
step 1: port the engine.
step 2: optimize the engine to the hardware.

I always took those quotes to be about step 1 only. Porting the engine took less time on ps4 and the engine ran really well without specific optimizations. A straight port of the engine on xbone took longer and before doing specific xbone tweaks the game ran terribly.

just speculation on my part, but it was always clear to me that there was a lot more work done on the xbone version after that 15fps rumoured build.
 
Well I just watched this video right after I watched the TitanFall video.

I said that "even" TitanFall makes this look bad, implying that TitanFall doesn't look great itself.

But have you watched this video, because compression or not, that game looks current gen, not PC current gen , stinky console current gen.

Edit : Anecdotally , I had friends at Eurogamer expo that said COD looked one of the worst games at the show.
Yes I have watched the video.

And - are you a PS3 COD player? I am a seasoned one and I can quite clearly see a marked difference in image quality.

As I say - you don't get blown away with detail, the animations are the same etc - but in terms of image fidelity and quality it is a step above - hence my original statement, they look like 1080p current gen games.
 

LowParry

Member
Well, I remember them talking about this totally upgraded engine, but it looks the same as it has since 4 basically. Also, the Activision dude said he thought it looked better than BF4. It doesn't even look as good as BC2.

Yes, of course that stuff is marketing shit, but I at least expected them to move the needle, at least a little bit.

Oh man that's laughable. Haha! I just boils down to what you play with shooters. Want more tactical? Go BF. Want that arcade feeling? COD. I'm actually more excited with this new way of sound they're doing with COD.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Oh man that's laughable. Haha! I just boils down to what you play with shooters. Want more tactical? Go BF. Want that arcade feeling? COD. I'm actually more excited with this new way of sound they're doing with COD.
What's laughable? That I expected an upgraded engine on a ten fold performance platform to look a little better?
 

hawk2025

Member
no.
one of those two claims is true, and the other is a blatant lie.
one is the complete opposite of the other.
I cant see how you can extract any other meaning from this, unless one has textures and the other wireframes


What?

It could simply mean that it took even longer and more optimization to get the X1 version up to snuff. The quotes are not complete opposites, since the concept of "time" actually exists.
 

Chamber

love on your sleeve
Well, I remember them talking about this totally upgraded engine, but it looks the same as it has since 4 basically. Also, the Activision dude said he thought it looked better than BF4. It doesn't even look as good as BC2.

Yes, of course that stuff is marketing shit, but I at least expected them to move the needle, at least a little bit.

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When was that?
 
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