Beer Monkey
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They blew a huge opportunity. Force both systems to 720p, let the TV do the scaling, compare the image softness.
Plus, while you are at it, check to see if PS4 nails 60fps when you force it to 720p.
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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They blew a huge opportunity. Force both systems to 720p, let the TV do the scaling, compare the image softness.
Plus, while you are at it, check to see if PS4 nails 60fps when you force it to 720p.
Ploid 3.0
Member
I remember when I was fresh to the PC gaming. Dead Island just came out and gaffers was posting pictures. After much tweaking I posted my pics and people pretty much laughed at me asking what setting did I have. My blacks were crushed like a big dog. I couldn't see anything in shade on the island. It looked neat to me in a way. I liked it, but for gameplay about surroundings it became a problem, especially at night.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30760061&postcount=2934
The game demonstrates the PS4 is stronger. Its higher resolution, with AO, and runs better.
You can ignore gamma/contrast differences because you can calibrate that yourself.
You are getting less apparent texture detail though, but that's because of upscaling filters that are attempting to recreate detail lost from the lower resolution on X1. There will be cases where this looks worse or better.
disastermouse
Banned
Mr. PlayStation
Member
Fishing in Baku next gen console footage from JackFrags
This isn't a good thing lol. The term "crushed blacks" isn't the same as saying "Whoa bro he totally CRUSHED that dinner, the food was so good!"
You don't want crushed blacks. They obliterate detail.
FlutterPuffs
Member
Xbox One does look better at first glance. Although then, if any of you ever had to edit images/videos or even play around with your contrast settings, you'll soon realise that the resulting crushed blacks and artifacts from the image sharpening just makes everything looks shittier after a while.
Exactly. the PS4's look does seem 'soft' but it's a much better version to be honest.
Exactly. the PS4's look does seem 'soft' but it's a much better version to be honest.
clem84
Gold Member
That's what I'm seeing too.
Some of the textures seem more detailed on XO. The XO signal is also a little darker with better color definition.
In the framerate comparison video, XO is also ahead in some sequences. PS4 is ahead in others.
So... what's the explanation? PS4 is slightly more powerful. Was the PS4 version botched?
Yeah I'm looking at the footage again, and it's like you guys are mentioning. PS4 version is not really washed, XBO version is just over contrasted. Also, the seemingly abundant amount of powerlines are not doing the 720p any favors. The footage reminded me of watching Castlevania: LoS cutscenes on my PC monitor
Coldnoodle
Member
Ouch.
This is the interesting debacle.
BruiserBear
Banned
It's quite a strange choice from DICE.
It does not look better!
Panda In Space
Member
So the BIG question is why only the Xbox One version has the artificial sharpening while both the PC and PS4 are lacking it?
Is it due to the developer intention or MS?
Is it due to the developer intention or MS?
:lol :lol
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
Folks hit the little arrow and go back and read this post complete with images. The Xbone is sucking up assets into a darkness. It is seriously hurting my head to continue reading people preferring the oversharpened and crushed black images of the Xbone. To each their own, but you are losing so much detail.
Hey guys, look what I did. I upped the contrast, saturation, and sharpening of the PS4 image, and now it has all the colors you crave. You can do this on your TV (it has settings for these things):
What I am saying is, it is silly to say the PS4 version looks worse because of the oversaturation, over sharpened and contrasted filter of the XB1 version. TVs can make your PS4 version look like that. And then all that's left is to compare the other things, that your TV can't fix: resolution, and framerate, both of which the PS4 version is superior in.
FFS, the XB1 version doesn't have "more detail" it has a nasty sharpening filter which actually adds noise. The PS4 and PC versions look much smoother and don't have crushed black levels.
We are done.
I love brian altano =p
Read the article.
Accepting a poorer framerate and resolution is simply moving the goalposts from a few weeks ago. How low are your expectations now for a more expensive console?
black as the street wasDespite pushing ~50% more pixels, that ~40% difference in frame-rate as well;
CANT EVEN SEE THE FUCKING GUN HERE.
Why are people still quoting gies?
PS4 is running at a higher resolution...yet looks blurrier? Weird. The washed out color palette can probably be fixed by lowering gamma and increasing saturation, if that's the way you want to go.
PS4 version does maintain a more consistent frame rate but it's a lot closer than I thought it would be.
PS4 version does maintain a more consistent frame rate but it's a lot closer than I thought it would be.
Alright, I just "corrected" the levels of the PS4 side to match the X1 side closer. All I did was crush the black and white levels. I did *not* touch the colors at all. Notice the SSAO on the PS4 version around the hand.
It's unfortunate that the captures are so different, making comparisons difficult.
I did the same thing to confirm before you posted. People thinking the Xbox version is better due to a video capture cock up, while boasting nearly 1/2 the resolution are in for heartbreak this generation.
Speedy Blue Dude
Banned
Xbox One seriously looks better to me, more crisp and colorful. Honestly, I don't care if they crushed blacks to do it, it looks better because of it. Whatever way they want to use to make their games look the best, they should do it. I almost wish the PS4 crushed blacks as well.
pretty done
Member
lol
My god its like ps3 vs 360 all over again.
I think the PS4 is the victor here because jaggies were one of my biggest woes this gen.Though when you take into account the better looking textures of the X1, the PS4 advantage is even less of an advantage the 360 had over some PS3 games, such as fallout 3 and RDR.
- PS4 has less jaggies
- X1 has better texture detail (check out the hair on the black guys head, his hair is clealy more detailed in the x1 version)
- More vibrant colours on the X1 (not and advantage, becuase everyone will have there tv's calibrated properly)
So can our tech wizards explain the difference in these shot? To me it looks like better textures, but if all I have to do is tune my TV or something, I'd like to know.
BRocknRolla
Member
Of course the color saturations couldn't have been the same. It would have gone too far to put these kind of debates aside to have an easy point of comparison. No, now we get to keep this stupidity going. I don't know what I expected.
Jackfrags, who people have been waiting for with bated breath, even says the PS4 mp looks better than the Xbox One sp. Evidently that doesn't mean anything anymore though thanks to this comparison. I'm out. This is never going to end.
Thanks for putting this stupidity in perspective. Too bad we're already dead.
Jackfrags, who people have been waiting for with bated breath, even says the PS4 mp looks better than the Xbox One sp. Evidently that doesn't mean anything anymore though thanks to this comparison. I'm out. This is never going to end.
Hey guys, look what I did. I upped the contrast, saturation, and sharpening of the PS4 image, and now it has all the colors you crave. You can do this on your TV (it has settings for these things):
What I am saying is, it is silly to say the PS4 version looks worse because of the oversaturation, over sharpened and contrasted filter of the XB1 version. TVs can make your PS4 version look like that. And then all that's left is to compare the other things, that your TV can't fix: resolution, and framerate, both of which the PS4 version is superior in.
Thanks for putting this stupidity in perspective. Too bad we're already dead.
Shitty scaler. Now go watch a native 1080p PS4 game like Killzone. Huge difference.
Aquamarine
Member
Yep, Xbox version is artificially sharp thanks to post-processing
PS4:
PS4 "Xbone Mode" (Sharpening + Black Crush):
Xbox One:
Thanks for the comparison. This needs to be made clear on every page.
Kibbles
Member
Yep, Xbox version is artificially sharp thanks to post-processing
PS4:
PS4 "Xbone Mode" (Sharpening + Black Crush):
Xbox One:
Xbone Mode is going to become a thing isn't it?
This is the shot here where you can see what those huge black spots are doing to the overall image. Just look at the dash at what you're missing on the XBO. In motion on your TV this is going to be very noticeable.
SRTtoZ
Member
lol, I meant to say "cannot even see the details".
Vire
Member
Hey guys, look what I did. I upped the contrast, saturation, and sharpening of the PS4 image, and now it has all the colors you crave. You can do this on your TV (it has settings for these things):
What I am saying is, it to say the PS4 version looks worse because of the oversaturation, over sharpened and contrasted filter of the XB1 version. TVs can make your PS4 version look like that. And then all that's left is to compare the other things, that your TV can't fix: resolution, and framerate, both of which the PS4 version is superior in.
Good post. Thanks for the insight.
Apocryphon
Member
BF4 and Killzone it is for me!
Both console versions look good, though the strange higher contrast on XO is mildly off putting in certain scenes... while making things like explosions looks better.
Both console versions look good, though the strange higher contrast on XO is mildly off putting in certain scenes... while making things like explosions looks better.