Backfoggen
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The implementation of AO in BF4 looks rather cheap, I doubt there will be a noticable hit.
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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The implementation of AO in BF4 looks rather cheap, I doubt there will be a noticable hit.
Well let's hope Dice doesn't jump on the trend and go full retard on levels/contrasts on every single version. If xb1 fans are happy with it, good for them, but i don't want that on ps4..
Listen to this man
McHuj
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Dude this is a launch game. Go back and look at PS360 launch games and ask the same question. The answer is the same.
I'm not surprised both versions look bad, with PS4 looking less bad.
Sorry about that. You shouldn't promote it like that either though.
I get the point but it's not how the PS4 version actually looks like so it's not suitable for comparisons.
Someone pointed out to you that they both use AMD gpu's and likely the same scaling hardware and you said "Maybe, but I'll take DF's word for it." DF said nothing about hardware scaling so what exactly are you taking their word on? To answer your question, the fault of a bad software upscale would be DICE's screw up.
What? The DF team has the worst stuff (see why -> OP)
Check IGN, Videogamer.com, Jackfrags stuff.
Looks to me like BF4 simply isn't the game to be using to highlight one consoles superiority over the other.
Both versions look pretty average to me.
I suppose if the overwhelming majority of BF4 gamers are graphics heads then they'll pick the PS4. But I think Microsoft is betting that the Xbox One as a package will be greater than the sum of it's parts.
Oh, and I'm not a graphics head so to me the two look remarkably similar. I was expecting a blow out, instead I got a...wait, what?
Both versions look pretty average to me.
I suppose if the overwhelming majority of BF4 gamers are graphics heads then they'll pick the PS4. But I think Microsoft is betting that the Xbox One as a package will be greater than the sum of it's parts.
Oh, and I'm not a graphics head so to me the two look remarkably similar. I was expecting a blow out, instead I got a...wait, what?
Daffy Duck
Member
What does AO stand for?
Yes, and thats the point. You can do that on your TV and make it look exactly the same.
But it is! Dude...
This is exactly how you can play it on your PS4 if you prefer that look.
VanquishUK
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I try to be as unbiased as possible. For the majority of current gen, my main gaming machine was a 360, towards the end I switched over to PC. I was planning on buying the Xbox One, but after learning more about it I decided to switch to the PS4. Shortly after I decided to skip next-gen altogether and stay with the PC. I see no benefit in spending £350 on a console with an (in my opinion) inferior experience. I might as well spend £200-£300 on a new GPU for my PC.
I'm not a fanboy of anything, I buy the things that I feel are more suited to my needs and desires.
Nothing's free.
Vire
Member
In theory, yes it could reduce performance. But AO is very cheap in terms of processing power.
With optimization, I doubt there will be any difference between framerate.
Ambient Occlusion...I Just learned this to lol
DieEnteWurzel
Member
Am I missing something? This gif (http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif) was introduced to show PS4 footage with over sharpening applied right?
(same thing that supposedly happened to the X1 footage)
(same thing that supposedly happened to the X1 footage)
So i have watched both the Videogamer and DF vids and to me the Xbox One version looks more vivid, has better textures and looks sharper while the PS4 version looks sharper with stuff in the distance while the Xbox One has more jaggies for stuff in the distance.
The IGN comparison pics do make the PS4 version look a lot sharper though which is strange after watching both comparison vids.
One things for certain though, the difference is minute and a lot less than people were expecting on here when they were getting their popcorn ready last night, i wish i had stopped up now!.
The IGN comparison pics do make the PS4 version look a lot sharper though which is strange after watching both comparison vids.
One things for certain though, the difference is minute and a lot less than people were expecting on here when they were getting their popcorn ready last night, i wish i had stopped up now!.
BigDaddyFatSack
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Xbone's version looks better despite the resolution difference. PS4 version looks washed out as usual. Reminds me of COD on 360 vs. PS3 and PS3 version always looking washed out. I suspect money is involved here as usual.
To be honest, both Sony and MS made a huge mistake by choosing AMD's weak CPU and it shows obviously.
Disappointing. At this point I'm reconsidering my preorders.
To be honest, both Sony and MS made a huge mistake by choosing AMD's weak CPU and it shows obviously.
Disappointing. At this point I'm reconsidering my preorders.
Sure but it's not the best comparison because both pictures were altered.
nope its a cross gen title. ryse,quantum break,killzone and infamous look miles better than this
shinra-bansho
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The XB1 image hasn't been softened afaik.
Ol No Bones
Banned
I'm sure in action the jaggies will be apparent to me but I can't help but laugh at the people in here that thought the xb1 version would look like pong.
But that should be even more apparent on XBO no ?
Impeccable
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Well the gap is much LARGER than I expected so...
mejin
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WoW
Rising_Hei
Member
No, its just to fight all these guys coming in here, yelling how much better the X1 version looks who are not realizing they arent actually talking about a console version difference but TV settings. That was horrible a few pages back.
Mr.Marston
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Amazing screen from the IGN footage:
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Not? Sorry - I stand corrected. The blurred UI made me think it.
The game is running at 60 though.
TheRealTalker
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right thanks.... trying to get up to date
Pseudo judo
Member
Why would the developer announce new tech to be added that will make that version of the game worse?
Quite literally, since the ground textures look miles apart.
Hmmm that's a good point. Someone should try to sharpen the X1 screenshot equally though to have a fair comparison.
And could you please make the gif a little slower this time?
robertsan21
Member
Ok, thanks for the info, they both look bad for a next gen games but PS4 version looks way better in everyway. there is no denying that. Cant wait to see whats coming for next gen in terms of graphics. its going to be a great gen.
So what I can gather from seeing the OP and parts of this thread is that:
-The Xbox One has sharper looking textures in single player
-A few effects are missing from the Xbox One version that are present in the PS4 version (?)
-Resolution is higher on the PS4
-AA is better on the PS4
-Framerate in the single player is slightly more stable on the PS4
Is this right?
And considering a lot of people are pointing it out, how bad have DF actually screwed up with their capture? Are the comparisons from other sites better?
-The Xbox One has sharper looking textures in single player
-A few effects are missing from the Xbox One version that are present in the PS4 version (?)
-Resolution is higher on the PS4
-AA is better on the PS4
-Framerate in the single player is slightly more stable on the PS4
Is this right?
And considering a lot of people are pointing it out, how bad have DF actually screwed up with their capture? Are the comparisons from other sites better?
The UI doesn't match up with the image. It looks like the PS4 is running on a TV with overscan turned on since all the UI elements are close to the edges of the screen - or BF4 has an option where you can adjust the image size for TVs.
Mr Moose
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This guy has some great footage: http://www.youtube.com/user/jackfrags?feature=watch
He said: PS4 MP > Xbox One SP
Because... Resources?
I don't know why this bad comparison-video is used when we have better material like the ign-video, where no color issues are around?
In every other video you can see clearly see the PS4 advantages. But well, this is probably the answer why some people prefer this video.
I find it just redicilous to use videos where comparisons aren't possible because of other conditions.
In every other video you can see clearly see the PS4 advantages. But well, this is probably the answer why some people prefer this video.
I find it just redicilous to use videos where comparisons aren't possible because of other conditions.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Do people actually believe this? Crazy.
Moon_frogger
Member
So? Don't n64 games run at 60?
SneakyStephan
Banned
yes, depending on the method used (and from what i've seen on pc the engine it's used in,( it butchered fps in sr3 at release , shitty fuckin port) it seems to lower fps by 5-15 percent or so in games on pc
If you can maintain a good framerate while using it it's sooo worth it though
I usually turn off all the useless crap that only degrades image quality like fxaa, blur, color grading, dof etc and rather spend that performance on AO
I'm getting confused now, is that gif the one that's been sharpened on the PS4 version? People seem to be saying it looks so much better on PS4 in that comparison (which I agree with 100%), but a few pages ago everyone was claiming that sharpening the image would "ruin" it?
As others have said, there's a sharpening filter somewhere along the line in the X1 version. The contrast is also messed up.
If you like that look you could twiddle your TV settings.
I think one other participating factor in perceived 'softness' could be the AO though. AO is often tagged as 'softer lighting' in layman's terms, it can reduces contrast between adjacent surfaces. It's not a softening of the image structure though. If we treat the PC version as a ground truth, the PS4 version has the same colour characteristics, while the X1 version is an outlier on contrast and filtering. But some of that, at least, could be DF's captures, and if that's fixed and AO is added into the mix on the X1 version it should probably be less of an outlier on the contrast/colour front.
Stoffinator
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this. Keep in mind that scene is in motion. So the blur is just motion blur.
Yep i agree with that. I think its impressive that they have got a launch game like this to run at 60fps but the likes of Killzone and Ryse destroy it imo.