StoppedInTracks
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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)
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zomgbbqftw
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I don't know whether I want to give DF the benefit of the doubt and say they messed it up by accident rather than having a more malicious intent of specifically fucking with the gamma settings on the PS4 capture to make it look washed out. I hope that when they get final hardware for both they spend time tweaking their capture settings so they can get proper output on each of them, not having a higher than normal gamma on PS4 and very low gamma on the Bone.
May have already been answered but yes, you can just change the contrast and sharpness settings in your TVs picture menu. Most TVs should have these options.
Man, if that black crush means optimized settings, I'd hate to see unoptimized results.
PrimaNocta
Member
Xbox is a bit darker but...it looks sharper in many areas. Still waiting on Titanfall to purchase one but I'd give xbox a slight edge based on these videos & pics.
No.
Well, you could construct a case where AO hides jaggies by being drawn over a previously (without AO) high-contrast edge. But notable aliasing is generally not at places where AO applies.
Amazing screen from the IGN footage:
LOLOL
Since we are comparing amazing compressed videos, here is the same map on PS4 and PC, not telling you which one is which! lol ... (you can see it
)
Pseudo judo
Member
I never differentiated between hardware and software. Are you saying the software upscaler had nothing to do with Sony and is the fault of DF?
StoppedInTracks
Member
I'd like to know this too, can this effect definitely be replicated on a TV? It makes the PS4 version look much better.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Several possibilities:
1. The capture for Xbone was done at 720p, whereas the PS4 one was done at 1080p so the scaling was introduced for PS4.
2. Both were captured at 1080p but the scaling software/hardware in Xbone introduced brightness/contrast toggle whereas the PS4 scaling/hardware keep the image as it was. You can't upscale an image to be something bigger and not losing clarity. BUT covering it with high brightness/contrast does not exactly eliminate the problem. It just makes the image looks pleasing in some instances.
3. The capture method that DF used employs a gamma setting that brings out the best in Xbone's output but doesn't do justice to PS4 because the gamma in each console were preset differently.
The difference in aliasing is that because of the hardware difference?
Rebel Leader
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Since we are comparing amazing compressed videos, here is the same map on PS4 and PC, not telling you which one is which! lol ... (you can see it
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Bottom is PC cause I see the V
zomgbbqftw
Banned
PS5 version. Wait 7 years.
Ah i take back what i said earlier, the PS4 version does look better in those pics. Strange though as i honestly thought the Xbpx One version looked better in the 'Videogamer' vid.
Huggers
Member
See looking at that makes me question DF's motives. Either that or they just messed up by mistake, which seems odd
You can do this on your TV. PS4 is crazily superior in every aspect, if you prefer the "X1" look, you just need to put saturation and sharpness on your TV up on the PS4 version and you have the same look.
All the people who are saying they prefer the X1 version, just talk about a look of the game that anyone can have on either console, but it doesnt change that the PS4 one is massively superior.
Yeah Sony should probably push their power advantage more than they currently are , it's only a smart business move as you kind of put it. I was always an Xbox fan but this time around i am going with PS4 first..I will probably get a Xbox One later down the road for some of their exclusives. I think Sony's exclusives will really shine though - this is where i believe we'll see that bigger difference graphically. I say in a year or two from now we will began to see some remarkable titles from Sony's exclusives lineup.
Like i mentioned before...Sony has really gone back to its roots as they were with the Original Playstation console..i was such a hardcore xbox gamer and still am to a degree but i was just so impressed with how they handled the development of their PS4 hardware. I mean they really made one heck of a machine this time around that it's just way to hard to pass up like i was able to with PS3 for the first few years after it launched. Cerny and gang really did a hell of a job with PS4..it's a developer's dream machine.
I expect to see a ton of new IP's coming out of the PS4 console like we saw with the Original Playstation console.
TheRealTalker
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so PS4 footage looks washed out due to the press using foreign recording gear
900p.... hmmm wonder if both versions resolutions would be larger if Dice had more time
900p.... hmmm wonder if both versions resolutions would be larger if Dice had more time
Turin Turambar
Member
It's a bit disheartening how a sharpening filter and some higher contrast/saturation tweaks will serve to convince 70% of the mainstream public, as the image "pop up" more.
Americanmushroom
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lol.
IAmRandom31
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Why would Sony have anything to do with a SOFTWARE upscaler for BF4?
As for the discussion at hand. I am truly amazed at what the X1 is able to display IQ wise with BF4. 720p, lower framerates, no AO, no AA from what I see, etc. etc. I guess when games are native 1080p on the PS4 this " upscaler " thing won't be an issue, which is nice since BF4 is one of the only launch titles not 1080p on the PS4.
http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif
The best comparison
Things close up and further away both look much better on the PS4. No contrast fiddling, no DF meddling, nothing just the same shot used.
The best comparison
Things close up and further away both look much better on the PS4. No contrast fiddling, no DF meddling, nothing just the same shot used.
Hehe I know, just wanted to point out what's so bad about that picture and everyone jumping on it, but it's getting ignored again, oh well.
thelurkinghorror
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For the OP. Had to edit my screen captures. Someone pointed out my name was in the pics lol.
Jack Youtube upload
DF Youtube upload
Crop this shit!
Prisoner KSC2-303
Member
Yep, I've got a feeling we'll be seeing a lot of questionable comparisons between now and launch, captured in a variety of ways.
As ever, the truth is usually lost somewhere in the midst.
The maddest thing is people looking at colours and gamma on their PC screens, 99% of which won't be even vaguely calibrated to any reasonable standard. It's also why BD screen comparisons are nigh on meaningless on the net.
You're assuming that the OP is talking about hardware upscaling. How did you reach that conclusion?
Yua are missing worse framerate and lack of effects on xbone version AO alone is taxing on hardware and there is no AO on xbone
No, it's just a way to try and approximate the way light bounces in real life. We use it a lot on cgi tv shows because it's cheap and fast to render.
zomgbbqftw
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Just set your TV's sharpening from the default of 50 to around 80 and you will get a similar look. For the colours, set the PS4 output to RGB limited and your TV to RGB full then set the colour mode to vivid or individually set the contrast to around 80 and the saturation to around 80, lower the brightness to around 30 and set the backlight to maximum to compensate.
Those are TV showroom settings as well.
Pseudo judo
Member
Beats me. Read the last couple of pages of this thread. I'm as confused as you are tbh.
PS4 is clearly superior. 1080p would have been nice though.
Impeccable
Member
Don't apologize for seeing something different.
Uno Venova
Banned
They have the worst comparison though don't they?
*yet
I won't buy any version, and if I had to get one it would be for PC because I don't plan on getting a next gen console.
I'm just pointing the lack of severe differences between the PC and the PS4 version (that one can check from the comparisons between both), whose
negligibility would make the PC version look bad if the PS4 version looked, as stated by some PC fanboy, "awful"
OriginalThinking
Member
Yeah that GIF really make it obvious. I'm sure once we see non compressed 1080p footage running at the original frame rates of each version we'll see a marked difference too. YouTube and web players in general are going to struggle to really show off the next gen titles as intended.
Watch the IGN comparison and get ready for a rude awakening
And
http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif
Look at the ground, grass, rocks, look at the distance.
DF screwed up
I said goddamn.
I haven't got a clue as i have literaly just got up and only saying it as i see it.
One thing i will say is that we may as well be looking at a PS3/360 comparison here they are that close, to me anyway.
BlazingDarkness
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No, it's because of the post-processing/upscaling.