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[LowParry]

So XO is just a setting that makes it look sharper from the TV. lol gg DF!

 

[slapnuts]

The IGN video should be linked in the OP
http://uk.ign.com/videos/2013/10/28/battlefield-4-xbox-oneps4-graphics-comparison

"However, I can give you some impressions based on my time with the PlayStation 4 multiplayer and single-player. Purely from a gameplay perspective, I can say with confidence that Battlefield 4 on PlayStation 4 and PC are equally excellent. The two are visually comparable, with minor detail differences if you’re really trying to pick it apart. The single-player and multiplayer look beautiful, and DualShock 4 is the best thing to happen to PlayStation in terms of first-person shooters. The analog sticks give you much more room for precise movements than the PS3's DualShock 3, whose sticks I've always felt are a bit clumsy. With aim/fire moved back to the redesigned L2/R2, you’re now pulling a trigger rather than pushing a button. It just feels more natural than hooking my index fingers over the PS3 controller’s bumpers. I’ll probably use this controller to play PC games for the foreseeable future.

Playing with 64 players on consoles is something else. I’m used to that on PC, especially with Battlefield, but I prefer playing on a couch, on PSN or Xbox Live, and using a game pad. Battlefield 4 on PS4 really is the best of those worlds. The scale of the PlayStation 3 version’s maps is fine – as I mention in the review, they sacrifice space and scale without significantly damaging the gameplay – but the addition of 40 more players, additional control points, and vehicles really shows you what you’ve been missing if you’ve been playing Battlefield on consoles all these years."

http://www.ign.com/blogs/mitchy_d/2013/10/29/wheres-the-xbox-one-or-ps4-battlefield-4-review

wow, interesting!

 

[zomgbbqftw]

I'm confused. Why is the above gif the complete opposite of this gif in the original post?

The second gif shows what can be achieved by pumping up the sharpening, contrast and saturation settings on your TV. Essentially, the Bone version does all of this before sending the signal to your TV (or DF did, I'm not clear on that yet), but the same identical effect can be achieved on your TV settings. What the poster is trying to show is that there are more details in the PS4 version.

 

[SniperHunter]

Fxaa or the post processing aa in frost bite blurs out the image big time. Game looks sharp without it. I personally loved the blurry look.

Sitting back ps4 fans should be ok. But with 2xmsaa the game looks like cg imo.

 

[Toma]

Holy shit. Wtf is happening here? Have people actually been altering the PS4 version of the gif?

Yes, the PS4 version has been altered to show how you can make it look with the same sharp and oversaturated TV settings.

 

[Pseudo judo]

You can make the PS4 version look as sharp on your TV, its just post processing everyone can apply himself:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87940929&postcount=4020

While I agree the images look very much the same, I don't believe parity is the conclusion that many were hoping for.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Here is a video comparing PS4 and PC version:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battl...-PS4-x-Wie-gut-ist-Next-Gen-wirklich-1094755/

They said the colors look exactly the same in both versions, the differences are because of the capture device. And they also said the PC version had some raineffects missing on the windscreen during the car scene lol.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Because the person who made the gif, used sharpening on the PS4 picture, to showcase the difference between using it and not using it.

That is my understanding, the Xbox One picture is not messed around with in either the gif or the picture you linked

The purpose (as i understand it) is to show what sharpening can do, which is really what DF footage has essentially been about and why people are confused

So he only sharpened one image and not both of them? Doesn't that come off as completely disingenuous?

 

[panty]

You can make the PS4 version look as sharp on your TV, its just post processing everyone can apply himself:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=87940929&postcount=4020

So they captured them wrong, ie. they post-processed the X1 version? The field/view gif PS4 looks much better.

Because it looks like there is a sharpening filter applied to the Bone versions of the game either as standard on all output or by DF in post. The same effect can be achieved by setting your TV for higher sharpening.

Really? What the hell

 

[Valentus]

So after all this pages, the tl;dr could be that in every comparison video/shots, PS4 version is the one to put my money but DF comparison video?

Oh digital foundry, you MS fanboys, never change lol.

 

[Into]

Holy shit. Wtf is happening here? Have people actually been altering the PS4 version of the gif?

You made a thread regarding what one can do with sharpening and contrast.

The gif is there to show you what you can do with the PS4 version when you meddle with sharpening and contrast.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

Holy shit. Wtf is happening here? Have people actually been altering the PS4 version of the gif?

Holy shit you are incredible. Have you read this thread at all? The whole DF stuff for the Xbox One was altered.

 

[djjinx2]

Wow, that IGN multiplayer video.... Xbox One legit looks like a PS2 game there.

Word.

1.49 check the MP comparison!!! XBOne looks nasty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lspjyu31Joo

 

[Tiberius]

Here is a video comparing PS4 and PC version:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battl...-PS4-x-Wie-gut-ist-Next-Gen-wirklich-1094755/

can someone who understand german tell us which pc configuration was used ?

 

[Mr Moose]

So he only sharpened one image and not both of them? Doesn't that come off as completely disingenuous?

But that's what they did to the Xbox One version...?

 

[cchum]

For people complaining about DF 'tinkering with brightness', but didn't bother reading the article:

Contrast isn't brightness.....

 

[TheRealTalker]

the colour of the MP looks more vibrant compared to BF3s white and blue

thank you DICE

 

[something fishy]

it did occur to me that if these are the visuals they can manage when games are rushed out for launch then buyers of neither need to worry.

going to be a good gen.

 

[Freki]

So he only sharpened one image and not both of them? Doesn't that come off as completely disingenuous?

The Xbox image is already sharpened - this evens the playing field...

 

[mejin]

The cynic in me says they did it to make the Bone version look "better" to brogamers and cause controversy and get more clicks, but it could be that they just fucked up.

I hope so.

 

[Marvel]

Here is a video comparing PS4 and PC version:
http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Battl...-PS4-x-Wie-gut-ist-Next-Gen-wirklich-1094755/

Amazing video, thanks.

 

[Into]

So he only sharpened one image and not both of them? Doesn't that come off as completely disingenuous?

Digital Foundry did just that. And you never called them out on it.

The gif is essentially Digital Foundry but flipped on it side, to use sharpening and contrast on the PS4 version and not Xbone version. While the DF comparison is the opposite

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

You made a thread regarding what one can do with sharpening and contrast.

Are you referring to the 900p thread that was locked a few weeks ago? I'm not sure what other thread I made about sharpening and contrast.

Digital Foundry did just that. And you never called them out on it.

The gif is essentially Digital Foundry but flipped on it side, to use sharpening and contrast on the PS4 version and not Xbone version. While the DF comparison is the opposite

Don't you think it's a pointless comparison if you don't sharpen both? At least that way you can see how they both look when they're sharpened.

 

[SniperHunter]

Yes, the PS4 version has been altered to show how you can make it look with the same sharp and oversaturated TV settings.

You can't make it sharp if the post processing aa is set to high

 

[badb0y]

So after all this pages, the tl;dr could be that in every comparison video/shots, PS4 version is the one to put my money but DF comparison video?

Oh digital foundry, you MS fanboys, never change lol.

Even in the DF footage the PS4 consistently outperformed the Xbox One while pushing 50% more pixels with added affects not even available on the Xbox One.

 

[plagiarize]

The second gif shows what can be achieved by pumping up the sharpening, contrast and saturation settings on your TV. Essentially, the Bone version does all of this before sending the signal to your TV (or DF did, I'm not clear on that yet), but the same identical effect can be achieved on your TV settings. What the poster is trying to show is that there are more details in the PS4 version.

I really hope we don't start seeing devs pump up contrast and sharpness everywhere on PS4 to 'compete' with the XO's tinkering (if indeed it is the system doing it).

There's a reason I keep sharpness turned off on my TV, and why I put contrast where it should be.

But yeah, everyone saying 'they look almost the same!' or 'the PS4 one looks worse to me' need to watch the multiplayer footage on IGN. because... eeeegads.

 

[ArchedThunder]

So what I can gather from seeing the OP and parts of this thread is that:

-The Xbox One has sharper looking textures in single player

Is this right?


And considering a lot of people are pointing it out, how bad have DF actually screwed up with their capture? Are the comparisons from other sites better?

This is wrong, as pointed out in the thread the PS4 textures are ever so slightly better.

 

[Pseudo judo]

Holy shit you are incredible. Have you read this thread at all? The whole DF stuff for the Xbox One was altered.

Altered is the wrong word. Improperly captured would be better. The was no intent on DF part.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

So after all this pages, the tl;dr could be that in every comparison video/shots, PS4 version is the one to put my money but DF comparison video?

Oh digital foundry, you MS fanboys, never change lol.

No, the same Xbone sharpness/ PS4 blurriness is also evident in the Video Gamer comparisons. It's not just DF.

 

[Honey Bunny]

So he only sharpened one image and not both of them? Doesn't that come off as completely disingenuous?

Isn't that the point? The same as DF's capture kit or whatever has done to the XB1 version? I think.

 

[maxiell]

Yikes, now I see why they did not send the XB1 multiplayer out for review.

 

[RooMHM]

wow, interesting!

That s a bit delusional... Playing at 1080p+ with AA and/or supersampling at 120fps and full AF isnt minor differences.

 

[Stillmatic]

Digital Foundry. Someone who worked with them mentioned it.

Wow, are you serious? So DF applied a sharpen filter themselves to the Xbox One footage to make it look sharper?

 

[Toma]

can someone who understand german tell us which pc configuration was used ?

Very expensive PC, high end Radeon Graphics card. Almost the same graphically. They estimate that BF4 might even look worse on a sub 1000€ pc than on ps4.

 

[ekim]

can someone who understand german tell us which pc configuration was used ?

They don't get specific on that. They just said it was a high-end rig with a Radeon GPU.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Both sub 1080p wtf.

this is the biggest thing I've taken away? KZ is doing it, and looks really heavy on effects as well. Wasup Dice? Hopefully this is just launch rush and 3rd parties will get a better handle on the consoles. 900p is nothing to brag about IMO...

also, why did the initial videos favor the X1? Not calling conspiracy theory but it's clear the X1 one was altered versus the PS4, now you can see the difference clearly? WHo's responsible for this?

Is COD 1080p for both platforms?

 

[jett]

Well, that's quite the upscaling shitjob on the PS4 version. Xbone looks sharper in several of those pictures despite the 50% loss of resolution. It's like the dark days of QAA on the PS3. Besides performance they seem to be the same in terms of everything else.

 

[djjinx2]

Yikes, now I see why they did not send the XB1 multiplayer out for review.

Seriously, the MS lovers celebrating glorious delicious tears really need to take a look at that shit

 

[something fishy]

Word.

1.49 check the MP comparison!!! XBOne looks nasty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lspjyu31Joo

ps2 levels though?

seems we have short memories of how bad that was

 

[le.phat]

http://abload.de/img/i3uk6taw6tdxd8fonn.gif

You can really see the effect of upscaled 720P in the HUD on the Xbone version. It looks so muddy and blurry.

Other then that, it's hard to see specifics in the picture; The ps4 image is just allround nicer, crisper, better defined, richer or whatever you want to call it. Let's call it better.

Shit, this is a cross gen port, and xBone is already suffering, is it because of the rush to launch on time ? Then why does the ps4 version look so much better ?

 

[cchum]

haha....what have you done GAF?

http://n4g.com/news/1382809/digital...ttlefield-4-ps4-xb1-video-capature#selcomment

 

[Mikey Jr.]

It is pretty much confirmed that ps4 will be the place to go for better multiplats. A complete switch from last gen. As a ps4 gamer, this makes me happy. Best third party versions, plus Sonys first party. Great.

 

[Rebel Leader]

Digital Foundry. Someone who worked with them mentioned it.

What makes you know this?

 

[BurnOutBrighter]

Goddamnit. The bone has an EVEN WORSE gamma curve problem. What the hell, that black crush is insane. If you shift the settings around you'll probably just end up crushing the whites. Gross.

Agreed. PS4 version only looks "washed out" because the Xbone is reproducing gamma incorrectly. Note how there is less detail in the darker parts of images but you can see that detail in the PS4 version.

No matter how "vibrant" you think it ends up looking, crushed blacks are bad, period.

 

[Waldo Lydecker]

Digital Foundry, I don't trust them.

 

[zomgbbqftw]

Altered is the wrong word. Improperly captured would be better. The was no intent on DF part.

For that we have only their word. Until they redo the test after release day and reconfigure everything I'm tending towards clickbait and trying to even out any gaps. Leadbetter has shown form in the past as has DF.

 

[Salvor.Hardin]

Also, to those complaining about AO, DICE has already confirmed that XB1 version will have it in the final retail release.

 

[Mr Moose]

haha....what have you done GAF?

http://n4g.com/news/1382809/digital...ttlefield-4-ps4-xb1-video-capature#selcomment

LMAO at least more people will know now.

Also, to those complaining about AO, Activision has already confirmed that XB1 version will have it in the final retail release.

DICE, but wouldn't that... do something to the Xbox One version? I mean, sure, it'll give it shadows, but... You can't add things and not take things away.

 

[Ol No Bones]

Watched ign video. The resolution is obviosly going to be more noticeable when I'm playing the actual game but the Xbox one version is very nice compared to the ps4. Unless you are really concerned about everything being perfect I do see a reason to not buy for either console. If you care that much about this you should probably buy on PC anyway.

 

[Into]

haha....what have you done GAF?

http://n4g.com/news/1382809/digital...ttlefield-4-ps4-xb1-video-capature#selcomment

Digital Foundry Admits To Botching Battlefield 4 PS4/XB1 Video Capature

Its very disappointing, people were counting on them.

Not like it means the world if the PS4 version looks slightly better (slightly depending on your own tolerance and expectations)