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DF/JF: Battlefield 4 PS4 vs XB1 videos/screens (900p PS4, 720p XB1)

Zincalloy

Banned
I don't know how anyone can say the X1 looks better...the PS4 is CLEARLY a LOT better looking. Like holy shit. The increase in details is pretty damn obvious. One of my co-workers said he didn't see it...until I pointed out every single difference and his X1 fanboy self reluctantly agreed.
 
Yup, this is Xbox 360 vs Ps3 level of differences. Xbox fans have no reason to switch, in the same way PS3 fans didn't. The power difference will be much more noticeable in 1st party games however, where the games are specifically tailored to the platform.

True 'fanboys' weren't going to switch anyways, but we know they only really make up a small percentage of the people buying either platform.

PS2 was the last of that gen I bought. Xbox 360 was my main console last gen. PS4 will be my main console this gen.

People who care predominantly about multiplatform games have every reason to switch from 360 to PS4. Losing backwards compatibility killed a huge advantage Microsoft would have had in leveraging the online 360 user base.

reasons not to switch... they're basically none existent. I have to make a new friends list. That's it.
 
Calm down, son. No one has quoted me. People are saying they fucked up and admitted to it. I'd like to know how and a link. I've read how in between the five minutes of me asking and you getting mad that I asked.

I quoted you the GIF i made and what they did to make the comparison differ the way it did. And the admitting part can be found if you took the time to read the first thing in this thread after the IGN comparison...
 

jaypah

Member
wow

as of this morning I know exactly 0 people who are going to get the xbone - the last handful of "lets wait and see" guys just cancelled their pre orders because of this

Lol, and I can't get ANYBODY to switch. Almost had my best friend on the PS4 train but he just won't push the button. Madden, 2K and the Xbox controller...these dudes don't even play online much!
 

Marc

Member
So basically, the PS4 version looks better, runs considerably better and does this whilst managing 56% more pixels (900p) over the Xbox One versions 720p resolution. To me if anything, that sounds like more than a 30-40% performance difference. If they dropped the XO version to 720p, I'd have at least expected the frame rate to stay solid. Fact that it runs at a lower resolution and still has these performance woes with heavier frame drops etc is what surprises me.

Penello am cry. Let the games do the talking indeed. Lol.

Wow, trying to catch up on this thread is almost impossible. When you put it like that it is certainly a big gap, I wonder if the rumoured OS issues for Xbone is dragging its performance down as it shouldn't be that huge of a difference right? In real terms however, I would prefer better effects and such over extra FPS and pixels. Or both, yeah actually, I will have both please. :)

Anyway...

dothemarcdance93drh.gif
 

velociraptor

Junior Member
Yup, this is Xbox 360 vs Ps3 level of differences. Xbox fans have no reason to switch, in the same way PS3 fans didn't. The power difference will be much more noticeable in 1st party games however, where the games are specifically tailored to the platform. We can already see this with Killzone IMO.
I don't know about that. The level of difference is far greater than 360 v PS3.

Nevermind the smoother framerates and AA; the fact it's rendering at 50% more pixels says it all.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
The real story here is both of these new next gen systems are well behind a modern mid-range pc and that is appalling.

And yet no-one managed to build a complete PC rig that can compete with the PS4 if not for spending at least 600/700 dollars or more in the other thread with the PC comparison shots.

As someone who'd rather sit on the couch and play games on the big screen, this will do very nicely for 399$. Not to mention that it will only get better from here on out.
 
Yup, this is Xbox 360 vs Ps3 level of differences. Xbox fans have no reason to switch, in the same way PS3 fans didn't. The power difference will be much more noticeable in 1st party games however, where the games are specifically tailored to the platform. We can already see this with Killzone IMO.

Way bigger difference. Would be idiotic to say otherwise. If you care or not is up to you. There are HUGE differences and PS4 version comes on to of everything.
 
seems like JackFrags wasn't trolling about his opinion
@JackFrags
To me PS4 Multiplayer looked better than Xbox One Single Player which I found very suprising. More in my impressions video.
https://twitter.com/jackfrags/status/395046482266447872
since all videos are compressed and we are probably not going to get any less compressed vids for awhile I am looking forward to impressions from the people who had hands on times with the game
 

tkalamba

Member
I expected only a resolution difference. Not a higher resolution, better effects, post processing, AA and a better average frame rate. As you rightly mentioned, these additional improvements won't have come cheap in terms of resources. They seem like a lot more than 30-40%'s worth.

I am happy to eat crow. I didn't think there would be much of a difference at launch if any, evidently I was wrong. The PS4 version is clearly the superior version here.

DICE has already said the XO version is missing many features, such as AO so it really isn't a good comparison to judge on.
 

goonergaz

Member
Can we all stop perpetuating this stupid idea?

There is no such thing as diminishing returns.

Compared to some of the screenshots I've seen in the PC thread, the IQ of the PS4/XBO version looks pretty horrendous.

There is still a long way to go in terms of improvements. Biggest crime of this game is the fact it'll run at sub native resolutions. 1080p and a good quality AA solution makes a world of difference image quality.

I also wonder whether these versions have AF.

I dunno, it's kinda true...I wouldn't say these games look ~8x The last of Us in quality but then when I get KZ on launch day I might do a 180 on that comment!
 
True 'fanboys' weren't going to switch anyways, but we know they only really make up a small percentage of the people buying either platform.

PS2 was the last of that gen I bought. Xbox 360 was my main console last gen. PS4 will be my main console this gen.

People who care predominantly about multiplatform games have every reason to switch from 360 to PS4. Losing backwards compatibility killed a huge advantage Microsoft would have had in leveraging the online 360 user base.

reasons not to switch... they're basically none existent. I have to make a new friends list. That's it.

People who don't care about MS exclusives clearly aren't Xbox fans. So yeah, those people are just better served getting a PS4 because it's cheaper and the ganes look better on it.
 

Toma

Let me show you through these halls, my friend, where treasures of indie gaming await...
So, AO is "many" features now? Shit gets spun out of control here.

They said AO and sorta implied it wasnt the only thing thats being added. I'd assumed they would have been a bit more specific if its another "big" feature though.
 

jaypah

Member
I don't know about that. The level of difference is a lot far greater than 360 v PS3.

Nevermind the smoother framerates and AA; the fact it's rendering at 50% more pixels says it all.

Yeah, nothing about this is as small as the PS3/360 difference. Like, you could go into a store blind and know that you're getting the best version of a game if you pick up the PS4 version. DF comparisons will only be used to gauge just how much better the PS4 version is or to find out how a game performs.
 
Do we know if the sharpening filter in the XBox One is a fixed function part of their scaler?

That look is going to really fatigue the eyes during long play sessions. And it's ugly.
 

btrboyev

Member
And yet no-one managed to build a complete PC rig that can compete with the PS4 if not for spending at least 600/700 dollars or more in the other thread with the PC comparison shots.

As someone who'd rather sit on the couch and play games on the big screen, this will do very nicely for 399$. Not to mention that it will only get better from here on out.


I'm just saying we should be expecting better after 8 years if sub full HD and we are still there. The hardware if these two systems should be that big of a learning curve considering the components they are using in them.
 
Can we all stop perpetuating this stupid idea?

There is no such thing as diminishing returns.

Compared to some of the screenshots I've seen in the PC thread, the IQ of the PS4/XBO version looks pretty horrendous.

There is still a long way to go in terms of improvements. Biggest crime of this game is the fact it'll run at sub native resolutions. 1080p and a good quality AA solution makes a world of difference image quality.

I also wonder whether these versions have AF.

If FXAA is so horrendous for IQ i wonder what solution Guerrilla used with KZ SF because compared to BF 4 the IQ in KZSF is manificient.
 

Bundy

Banned
I think most people who where interested in the Xbox can walk away happy from this comparison. Considering the hype for the differences in the PS4 and XBO versions, this was a non event. It's not pronounced enough to deter someone who was interested in getting MS new system. But there is enough of a difference that PS4's fans can whip out the gif's and feel superior.

Its a win win.
Well, I wouldn't call worse IQ (50% lower pixel rate), sometimes even sub 720p, worse framerate, aliasing issues, etc. ...... a win and I wouldn't walk away happy from this.. but hey.... to each his own. ;)
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
They said AO and sorta implied it wasnt the only thing thats being added. I'd assumed they would have been a bit more specific if its another "big" feature though.

Still. They only mentioned AO, and it becomes "many", which then becomes "tons", which then becomes "The day one patch will bump the res up to 1080 and the framerate to 60 with 16xMSAA guys!"

This weird game of telephone is getting out of hand.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
Do we know if the sharpening filter in the XBox One is a fixed function part of their scaler?

That look is going to really fatigue the eyes during long play sessions. And it's ugly.

I would "guess" that it's an optional part of the scaler. If it were a non-optional part of it.. omfgno..
 

Guerilla

Member
Wow, trying to catch up on this thread is almost impossible. When you put it like that it is certainly a big gap, I wonder if the rumoured OS issues for Xbone is dragging its performance down as it shouldn't be that huge of a difference right? In real terms however, I would prefer better effects and such over extra FPS and pixels. Or both, yeah actually, I will have both please. :)

Anyway...

dothemarcdance93drh.gif

Haha, this is awesome. Is it new?
 
I was buying PS4 anyways, but wasn't necessarily going to get BF4. However it looks like DICE did a pretty good job with the PS4 version, so maybe I'll pick it up.
 
DF images should be removed altogether as they are not representive of anything than DF incompetence.

I just wanted to show the difference between their original picture and how it's a cock up compared to everything else. If you look at the X1 pictures in comparison with those, you can see the color range is literally exactly the same.
 

skc

Banned
It's interesting what results you get when you do a twitter search for xboxone ps4 bf4

Looks like to the average (read casual) gamer, there's hardly any difference. I think Microsoft are slightly relieved on that front.
 

Raptor

Member
This question has probably being asked a million times but since there is like a million pages now I have to ask because I literally don't have time to read all of it, so I apologize for any inconvenience:

The blurriness compared to the One of the PS4 shots are not how it will look like right? there is something wrong with how it was captured?

Reason is because I HATE blurry IQ, I just HATE IT!!

It was one of the reasons I changed PS3 for a Xbox 360 after I got it.

Is very conflicting this stuff because I thought blurriness was caused by lower Rez but the PS4 version of this game is 900p, it should not look blurry.

KZ SF is sharp as all fuck compared to some of the shots.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
Damn ps4 version is a blurry mess

SO IS PC IKNORITE

The blurriness compared to the One of the PS4 shots are not how it will look like right? there is something wrong with how it was captured?

"blurriness" in the comparison is because the xbone has a sharpen filter applied to its upscaler along with DF further sharpening the image (along with color and contrast changes on the xbone footage). PS4 (and PC) versions aren't blurry. XBONE version is artificially sharpened with a post-process effect. If that is the sort of thing that appeals to you, getting the PS4 version and cranking up the sharpness on your TV will accomplish the exact same thing. And no I'm not being snarky about it. That's literally the difference you are seeing on the XBONE footage.
 
Calm down, son. No one has quoted me. People are saying they fucked up and admitted to it. I'd like to know how and a link. I've read how in between the five minutes of me asking and you getting mad that I asked.

There was a thread where someone from DF gave an explanation of what happened, it got closed if I'm not mistaken, To my knowledge, the site hasn't officially mentioned any wrong doing, but the colors do pop out on the Xboxone version.
 

PhatSaqs

Banned
Still. They only mentioned AO, and it becomes "many", which then becomes "tons", which then becomes "The day one patch will bump the res up to 1080 and the framerate to 60 with 16xMSAA guys!"

This weird game of telephone is getting out of hand.
Dude they're on record as saying there is other stuff to tweak. Chill...
 

repeater

Member
Leadbetter posted a response on Eurogamer as an "Editor's blog".. He doesn't seem to have any regrets whatsoever. Is GAF gonna crash again now? :(

EDIT: Link if it hasn't been posted yet.
 
Do we know if the sharpening filter in the XBox One is a fixed function part of their scaler?

That look is going to really fatigue the eyes during long play sessions. And it's ugly.

I'd really like to know this too. If it isn't optional currently, they need to make sure that gets patched in, even if they want to leave it on by default.
 

Bedlam

Member
The real story here is both of these new next gen systems are well behind a modern mid-range pc and that is appalling.
CoD2 looked way better on mid-range pc's than on 360 as well. When I played Stalker in 2007, there was nothing even close to it on consoles.

People need to stop pretending that it used to be different. Consoles have always been a power/cost compromise.
 
Wow opinions are severely contrasting in here

I'm of the opinion that for the average gamer they won't care

PS4 is clearly the superior version though and that DF footage, oh my that DF footage

Curious if opinions will change any when playing these games on 40"+ screens?
 

velociraptor

Junior Member
It's interesting what results you get when you do a twitter search for xboxone ps4 bf4

Looks like to the average (read casual) gamer, there's hardly any difference. I think Microsoft are slightly relieved on that front.
Internet videos = compression. Not a great indication.

But it's true, the game looks largely the same. The PS4/XB1 versions also look largely the same as the PC version.

But it's the finer details that count.
 
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