Hold on a minute,
You said:
then the picture is posted and you reply
You get asked why they don't count.
Could you tell me what the fuck $500 GPUs have to do with which control scheme is "more preferable"?
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Ubisoft: "On PC, you don't usually care about performance"; just buy a bigger GPU
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You said:
Could you tell me what the fuck $500 GPUs have to do with which control scheme is "more preferable"?
jim-jam bongs
Member
PLAYER 3 HAS ENTERED THE GAME
Dictator93
Member
Hey, you didn't respond to my post about how inane your argument was.
Oh wait, you have no idea how to respond because you are horribly wrong.
Because magic!
Player 4 needs to show up. 3 is too sensible and level headed. 4 is just rabid and psychotic and that is far more entertaining.
Poor Crytek, someone should take the time machine back to 2007 and tell them they shouldn't release Crysis. It was too beautiful for its time, the leap was too great.
A quick google search will reveal that this is not an isolated article. The PC gaming industry is experiencing tremendous growth and that growth is widely predicted to continue.
http://techreport.com/news/25197/as-overall-pc-market-declines-growth-expected-in-gaming-hardware
http://hexus.net/gaming/news/hardware/60297-steam-continues-impressive-growth-face-pc-decline/
http://www.techspot.com/news/52070-pc-game-sales-hit-20-billion-last-year-no-signs-of-slowing.html
Your raging hate boner for the PC platform is kind of odd, man.
They're all KB/Mouse games so it looks like PC gamers don't care about controllers or the comfy couch experience. For games people can play with controllers, majority choose consoles over playing with a controller on their PC.
I personally will not play games on a desk, so PC is not for me.
Zaraki_Kenpachi
Member
Again, do you have any proof? A single link would be nice.
Last time I checked the changes from far cry, metro, and witcher this generation are better than anything uncharted has produced.
This is what majority of people choose to play for games you can 'play with controllers'.
Very frustrating to see gamers saying to another gamer that he's stupid because he doesn't like to play on their platform of choice. PC gamers aren't smarter in this game, they are the same.
Ah and yes, console owners are poorer and less intelligent than PC gamers, i forgot that.
Seriously? You're not a joke right?
One time you say gaming on PC is CHEAPER, and then another time: "PC market has the most disposable income". What the fuck?
edit: I'm not "player 4" entering the game, i love to play on PC, Paradox games and Civilization games (Football Manager a little). And i prefer KB/M for that kind of games.
Ah and yes, console owners are poorer and less intelligent than PC gamers, i forgot that.
Seriously? You're not a joke right?
One time you say gaming on PC is CHEAPER, and then another time: "PC market has the most disposable income". What the fuck?
edit: I'm not "player 4" entering the game, i love to play on PC, Paradox games and Civilization games (Football Manager a little). And i prefer KB/M for that kind of games.
PC version is harder. There's also better players on PC.
If you think I'm saying that as a PC elitist well
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CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
They have the most disposable income because they generally spend less.
I don't think it's a difficult concept to grasp.
and the min required spec for each of those didn't change(ie increase) from one to the other?
Show me which console game sold better on the PC compared to consoles?
The best sellers on PC are always games with KB/Mouse like Diablo and Simcity, etc. When was the last time a controller game was a best seller?
Has anyone mentioned yet that this is one dude, who is an Associate Producer on one game, giving his take? "Ubisoft" didn't say it.
I worked for the studio that handled the PC port for Far Cry 3 (Ubisoft Red Storm). To say that the guy (we'll call him Nathan W.) leading up the charge didn't care about PC performance, or to imply that word came down from Ubisoft not to, is laughable.
It's upsetting that gamers take this and turn it into some political battle. The top comment in that news article is "fuck you Ubisoft". People spend years of their lives caring about gaming minutiae and still get a literal "fuck you".
I worked for the studio that handled the PC port for Far Cry 3 (Ubisoft Red Storm). To say that the guy (we'll call him Nathan W.) leading up the charge didn't care about PC performance, or to imply that word came down from Ubisoft not to, is laughable.
It's upsetting that gamers take this and turn it into some political battle. The top comment in that news article is "fuck you Ubisoft". People spend years of their lives caring about gaming minutiae and still get a literal "fuck you".
It's an absurd concept.
"They have the less disposable income because as we see they generally spend less", is also true (in theory it's much more complicated than that and we are both false).
Playing with a controller on PC is niche since the nineties, you are enforcing open doors here.
But yes, you can play with a controller on PC with plenty of console ports. Fact is: PC gaming has nothing to do with console ports, PC gaming's goodness is elsewhere. It's League of Legends, World of Warcraft, DOTA, Counter-Strike, Valve games, Grand strategy games, 4X games, simulation games... Gaming market on PC is there and nowhere else.
OldAsUrSock
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You only want things to fit in your point of view. You have ignored everything that goes against your POV because you are too stubborn to accept you are wrong. People told you that for PC gaming you can game on the couch, you can play with a controller, you get crashes just like consoles and people showed you that PC has the largest earnings, but you still just want to deny. You want to get rid of PC exclusives just for the earnings to fit in your narrow mindset instead of broadening your views after being proved wrong. This makes you look bad.
If you could play any of them to begin with, the changes are still more dramatic than what you saw in uncharted even with your bringing up that point. Rather someone who could easily play at mid range pc settings for metro or witcher could easily still play at lesser settings in the sequels and still see big changes just not as big as maxing it out. I know cause I only bought my 7950 within last two months and that is the only big change to one of my big gaming rigs in years.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Is this him?!
I don't think people are saying Coldfoot is stupid for not playing games on PC, rather that his reasons for not playing games on PC are stupid. And the passion with which he argues them is perplexing, in a thread about PC gaming no less. He doesn't want to play games on PC, good for him. Why is he even here? Why is he so desperate to show that his decision is the right and correct one?
jonscrambler
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just what is the point of dividing PC games into "KB/M games" and "controller games"?
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CONNECTION LOST PLAYER 3 LEFT THE GAME
nogoodnamesleft
Banned
I see the comfy couch console brigade is out in extreme force yet again
And how much does that sell compared to console versions, or games like Simcity, DOTA, Diablo, Starcraft on the PC? Current top seller means nothing, you know this.
PC and Consoles have largely different audiences. Trying to replicate the couch experience on a PC when the underlying OS is a KB/Mouse driven OS like Windows is not a high priority and more like fitting a square peg into a round hole.
Providing unique experiences for PC results in the largest sales if we look at the best selling PC games, they are not possible on console, and not because of hardware power.
speculawyer
Member
Well . . . there is a logic to it. You are going to spend your time optimizing the code where the biggest audience is.
Problem is, when you don't respect someone opinion and call him an idiot, there's a huge possibility the guy will turn in defense mode.
Don't call him stupid or idiot, argue and defend your opinion, we're not on GameFAQs here.
Senor Kami
Banned
I thought hardcore pc gaming was all about the constant push for the most powerful cards available and that a major complaint this gen was that the elongated console cycle slowed that down.
CheesecakeRecipe
Stormy Grey
The problem is, people have been giving him facts and he has been turning them down. This post highlights the exact problem being seen here:
It's never going to change, because this is who Coldfoot is. He will never accept anything that doesn't fit his view. It's really not worth trying to prove anything to him because he'll backpedal or move goalposts to try and continue his inane arguements.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Wait, who called him an idiot?
Sleeping Lesson
Member
Because the government doesn't want us to unite under a single ideology because the inside job chem trails while the sheeple won't listen to the masonic illuminati Ron Paul 2012
So what? How many PS3 and 360 out there? How many PCs?
How many subscription games?
This graph compares oranges with apples.
but not everyone has PC rigs that are so over powered that they blast through the top 20% of taxing titles.
i would say most PC owners might upgrade to be able to play some new title at mid to high settings at a solid 30fps .... and they are fine, for a year , when the next big title comes out and they are forced into a ram upgrade etc etc.
i would say most PC owners might upgrade to be able to play some new title at mid to high settings at a solid 30fps .... and they are fine, for a year , when the next big title comes out and they are forced into a ram upgrade etc etc.
jim-jam bongs
Member
Oh you are SO player 4
Muffdraul
Member
Hate to defend an Ubisoft rep, but it seems to me all he meant was that when you're developing for a console you don't have the freedom to just upgrade when you need more power. You can't say, "OK our particle effect renderer might be biting off way more than it can chew right now, but in a year the ATI 998REX7 cards will be out and by the time this game comes out most people will have them, so no need to freak out about it now." You have no choice but to stay within the console's limits. He wasn't talking about PC philosophy per se, just the limits of console development.
But that's OK, please continue the monkey shit fight... carry on.
But that's OK, please continue the monkey shit fight... carry on.
derExperte
Member
Not sure where you moved your goalposts to since posting this but does Super Meat Boy count? Or Skyrim, that sold extremely well over a very long period of time and it wouldn't suprise me if it has surpassed the PS3 version.
Have you actually read coldfoot's responses?
Okay, apparently not.
No, it shows the revenue generated on each platforms. The way it earns the money is irrevalent.
MrCunningham
Member
This post is sarcasm at its finest.
So wait, someone asserts that PC gamers have more disposable income, you say that's an insult but then later agree:
Then somebody posts a graph supporting the fact that PC gamers spend more and then you just instantly dismiss it because apparently those games don't count just because.
Right. And you wonder why people are reacting negatively, this is some shameful troll shit right now man. To think you were the one going off talking about gamefaqs level of discourse too.
I know, it's frustrating seeing this shit though.
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