Yeah, I don't like that just because someone chooses to force their lifestyle out into the open, that it needs to be accepted and embraced.
There are a lot of things that people should just keep to themselves.
I don't really have anything against them, because it's not harming anyone, but really, I just can't understand why one would choose to expose that detail of their lives into the public.
It feels wrong to yell out to the world "I'm a sexual deviant! Accept me!". Keep that shit in your bedroom. You can do whatever you want, I just don't want to know about it.
They still haven't really addressed this...
No, the parody account is missing a letterPretty sure that is a parody account.
Pretty sure that is a parody account.
It was brought up an awful lot for something that has nothing to do with it. Reread the OP: declaring him a gay furry was literally the first paragraph, not explaining simply that he promoted an emote of someone he knew. In fact, I don't know of a recap that didn't fail to bring it up -- and one of the imgur recaps covers at such length it includes cropped porn.TThe fact he's gay, a furry - and has a boyfriend has nothing to do with it.
I wouldn't call it nonoffensive, I think it's uncalled for and crises a line, but it's not directly homophobic or --Here is the the completely non-offensive, non-hateful, non-homophobic, non-fursecution joke in it's entirety that led to Horror and other admins banning popular streamers, many of which rely on their streaming income to live.
Official response up on reddit.com:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1r64e8/apology_official_twitch_response_to_controversy/
optimizeprime is Emmett Shear, Twitch CEO
It was brought up an awful lot for something that has nothing to do with it. Reread the OP: declaring him a gay furry was literally the first paragraph, not explaining simply that he promoted an emote of someone he knew. In fact, I don't know of a recap that didn't fail to bring it up -- and one of the imgur recaps covers at such length it includes cropped porn.
I wouldn't call it nonoffensive, I think it's uncalled for and crises a line, but it's not directly homophobic or --
fuck, I'm sorry, but I just can't say that other word, it's too bloody stupid.
No, the parody account is missing a letter
Honestly when I saw that emote, I didn't even know it had anything to do with porn until it was pointed out. It just looked like some random cartoon dog as opposed to being some kind of message about sexual deviance.
What's the syntax to display the icon in chat?
NightLightWhat's the syntax to display the icon in chat?
Solid response from Twitch.
You would just type the emote name (case-sensitive). So I think it would have been NightLight.
NightLight
I don't disagree, but I also want talking about that. I was talking about how it was specifically mentioned in every single recap or post about the story. If it didn't matter it wouldn't be mentioned, but it was, often.However, his personal preferences were not brought up when some streamers just had a simple title of remove horror. This title was in no way offensive or even mentioned his personal preferences, only to remove him due to his abuse of power
You speaking about furries or the gays? I honestly can't tell because your argument could apply to either the way it's said, and I've heard it often used, almost exactly that way, to argue against holding hands while gay in public, yes, really.Yeah, I don't like that just because someone chooses to force their lifestyle out into the open, that it needs to be accepted and embraced.
There are a lot of things that people should just keep to themselves.
I don't really have anything against them, because it's not harming anyone, but really, I just can't understand why one would choose to expose that detail of their lives into the public.
It feels wrong to yell out to the world "I'm a sexual deviant! Accept me!". Keep that shit in your bedroom. You can do whatever you want, I just don't want to know about it.
What is NightLight? That's the name of the animal that Horror's boyfriend dresses up as or something?
Ugh, I'm done with this. Good response by Twitch.
Bravo, and well managed.
I don't disagree, but I also want talking about that. I was talking about how it was specifically mentioned in every single recap or pay about the story. If it didn't matter it wouldn't be mentioned, but it was, often.
The response to showing solidarity with the steamer? Sure, agreed. It wasn't bright up then. But when purple posted about it, it was, which is my point.
You speaking about furries or the gays? I honestly can't tell because your argument could apply to either the way it's said, and I've heard it often used, almost exactly that way, to argue against holding hands while gay in public, yes, really.
You speaking about furries or the gays? I honestly can't tell because your argument could apply to either the way it's said, and I've heard it often used, almost exactly that way, to argue against holding hands while gay in public, yes, really.
What is NightLight? That's the name of the animal that Horror's boyfriend dresses up as or something?
Ugh, it's too much for me, I can't understand this. Good response by Twitch.
NightLight is his name becauseWhat is NightLight? That's the name of the animal that Horror's boyfriend dresses up as or something?
Ugh, it's too much for me, I can't understand this. Good response by Twitch.
He is called night light because his wolf dick glows.
And would anybody have known this detail by simply glancing over the icon? Again, it looks like some dog with a stupid grin on its face, not a penis or whatever people seem to think it is.
And would anybody have known this detail by simply glancing over the icon? Again, it looks like some dog with a stupid grin on its face, not a penis or whatever people seem to think it is.
Official response up on reddit.com:
http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/1r64e8/apology_official_twitch_response_to_controversy/
optimizeprime is Emmett Shear, Twitch CEO
Twitch Administrators are volunteer moderators who are not employed by Twitch. The activities depicted here and being falsely attributed to Twitch staff were undertaken by a volunteer admin who has since been removed from the program.
Well done, however, this doesn't seem to include the TwitchTVSupport twitter account that also displayed very unprofessional material. Hopefully that management will be resolved as well.
Fair enough. I didn't want to kneejerk if I misunderstood you; I've had to put up with hearing that reasoning so often as it applies to LGBT stuff that it acts as a sore spot for me I'm afraid. I could care less about people feeling that way about furries.Furries, not LGBT culture itself.
No matter how far strides in LGBT acceptance will go, extreme deviation like "furries" will never be accepted. Fethishism in general.
If they're Twitch moderators shouldn't they be called "Twitch Moderators"? Admin implies staff...
Exactly my problem with it.If you saw what channel the emote was from, the channel owner was very open about his persona. Then with a simple google search of his user name, or looking at his twitter, it would lead you to the comics in question.
LOLFair enough. I didn't want to kneejerk if I misunderstood you; I've had to put up with hearing that reasoning so often as it applies to LGBT stuff that it acts as a sore spot for me I'm afraid. I could care less about people feeling that way about furries.
If they're Twitch moderators shouldn't they be called "Twitch Moderators"? Admin implies staff...
They were moderators for more than just one channel
In twitch, a moderator is a user selected by the broadcaster to moderate their channel and only their channel
Fair enough. I didn't want to kneejerk if I misunderstood you; I've had to put up with hearing that reasoning so often as it applies to LGBT stuff that it acts as a sore spot for me I'm afraid.
So those are Channel Moderators, these are Twitch Moderators.
At the same time, they did not post this on official channels. No, they had to post this to reddit. I feel like they are not apologizing to the general public for their actions, only pleasing those that are hoping for an official statement.
This is also a fair point.
I completely agree. There's been a long overdue name change coming to that group. The current front runner is just "Global Moderators."
And it's not just that. The volunteers are taking the brunt of the damage but not Horror. All he's doing is stepping back FROM PUBLIC MODERATING.
He can still do this from behind the scenes.
Solid response from Twitch. Well, I hope it's over now. People made mistakes and it will be dealt with.
Those things always happen, if you mix private stuff with work stuff. Sucks for Horror, that he isn't the lead admin anymore. I talked a coupple of times with him and he always seemed like a nice guy. Best of luck to him.
Chris92 made a horrible mistake, by speaking for Twitch and censor things. It's something, that you should never do, if you haven't permission to do so. Especially, if you are not working officially for that company. Companies can and will sue you for doing this.
Now going back to watch some streams.
I personally looked at the response as something they're still looking into so his status may not stay that way, it's just a way to let people cool down a bit knowing he won't be in the public face for a bit.
I agree he should lose all power, though.
I'm curious to know the relationship between the different parties involved. The main twitch employees that we've heard from at this point are the CEO Emmett Shear, an employee named Jasonmz, and another employee named Horror.
Jasonmz claims to be Horror's boss, where does Jasonmz sit in the heirarchy in relation to Mr. Shear?
I imagine myself being in the CEO's position, coming in to work one day and seeing all this shit, and then these two loser rogue employees fucked everything up on their own accord, and then as CEO having to repair the damage. As the CEO, I would genuinely be sorry if this situation had been out of my control, so I can totally see this happening.
At least Emmett appears to be far more mature and professional than Jasonmz and Horror.
Is this the same Jason being accused of abusing the @TwitchTVSupport account (if you believe the comments on reddit in response to the official apology)?
I dig where you're coming from; I'm a private person about some things, including that, so I can relate. Thanks for taking the time to explain things. Sorry again for snapping.Yeah, it's a really thin line, I don't want to come off as homophobic, but it's almost impossible not to.
I think it's fine that he's gay, no problem whatsoever, I just want to make it clear that I think it's kind of silly that he is so open about the specifics of his relationships.
I don't talk about what my girlfriend and I do in the bedroom, either. Because we do some crazy shit that a lot of people don't really want to know about. It's just the way it is.
If you saw what channel the emote was from, the channel owner was very open about his persona. Then with a simple google search of his user name, or looking at his twitter, it would lead you to the comics in question.