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Media Create Sales: Week 49, 2013 (Dec 02 - Dec 08)

PsionBolt

Member
Re: SAO Vita doing 500k.
Infinity Moment only did a bit over 200k, if I recall correctly. Maybe 210 or 220. I wouldn't expect Hollow Fragment to set the charts on fire, especially given Vita's low install base and whatnot.
 

Mpl90

Two copies sold? That's not a bomb guys, stop trolling!!!
On this note, how many upcoming 3DS games does Capcom have announced?

So far none, but I suppose they'll announce something in the next future. Ace Attorney 5 sold quite well for them, we all know Monster Hunter 4 has been a gigantic success...if even Square has started announcing 3DS games again recently (and I'd say even quite frequently), why not Capcom?
 
Please tell me what I got wrong. You were replying to a poster who said 'looks like Wii U will outsell Vita for Christmas' ??

me
Is WiiU still lagging behind the Vita in terms of holiday sales? I did predict the Vita will sell more over the holidays.

metalslimer
I don't think there is any hope of that.

prin
Vita beating Wii U. for Christmas. No idea on numbers but I'm guessing he's expecting the wii u to continue with it's normal holiday bump and the Vita to continue to do what it's been doing (staying reasonably consisten.

me
From Nov-Present:

As you can see I started the comparison which will sell more over the holidays. Please follow the convo before just jumping in with snarky comments that have little validity.
 
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Deleted member 125677

Unconfirmed Member
As you can see I started the comparison which will sell more over the holidays. Please follow the convo before just jumping in with snarky comments that have little validity.


Ok, so mid-november is holiday sales? Not being snarky now, serious question
 

Principate

Saint Titanfall
So far none, but I suppose they'll announce something in the next future. Ace Attorney 5 sold quite well for them, we all know Monster Hunter 4 has been a gigantic success...if even Square has started announcing 3DS games again recently (and I'd say even quite frequently), why not Capcom?

Yeah seems like square even has plans for a trilogy considering they've trademarked Bravely third and have announced second. Plus this re-release actually did quite well for something that's essentially an enhanced edition of the original.
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
It's not their first bomb on the system either, they've already had E.X. Troopers and Revelations. This is just the bomb with the highest hopes (for some dumb reason).



None, as far as I recall.

I think Gaist Crusher was the only upcoming one?

So far none, but I suppose they'll announce something in the next future. Ace Attorney 5 sold quite well for them, we all know Monster Hunter 4 has been a gigantic success...if even Square has started announcing 3DS games again recently (and I'd say even quite frequently), why not Capcom?

Huh, that's what I thought, but I wasn't sure.

MH4G is assuredly coming, and presumably an Ace Attorney game, though I'll be interested to see what else (besides those two series) follows.

As for Square Enix, I feel they announced pretty much what I expected six months ago in terms of more DQ spin-offs and the Bravely Default sequel. The one surprise for me was that Theatrhythm was actually a 3DS game instead of an iOS/Android game, though that doesn't seem ridiculous given it sold pretty well up front in Japan on 3DS and can always be ported later. I don't feel they've announced anything unexpected yet though that would imply an increase of support over just releasing DQ games and BD, especially since they announced this would be the last Theatrhythm title.
 

Frillen

Member
Are you seriously comparing the incredible/mainstream/developer hype the PS4 is getting to the nonexistent/gaf Vita hype?, for real?

You're going to be disappointed if you think the PS4 will light up Japan. It will have a weaker launch games wise compared to the PS3. Japan has moved on to handhelds and smartphones over the last few years. The PS4 has an incredible hype in the western market, but there's not a whole lot in Japan, hence why Sony delayed it to 2014. It might sell well at launch (which pretty much every system does, Wii U and Vita included), but it will struggle to hit PS3 LTD, unless Japan suddenly makes a 180 and goes back to consoles, which looks very unlikely at this point.
 

AniHawk

Member
Cheers for that. There's no LA data or you're conflating the two?

I'll be very interested to see the sales that ALBW gets, as it'll answer the question of whether Japan went off Zelda wholesale, or just didn't like the switch to 3D(as happened with super mario).

i can't find original la sales unfortunately. the only ladx numbers i have are from the year after it released. sales are probably closer to 300k-400k.

i feel that anything greater than 400k for albw would be a decent success. spirit tracks and phantom hourglass largely sold to a new userbase, i think.
 
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Uncanny ratio.
 
It's not their first bomb on the system either, they've already had E.X. Troopers and Revelations. This is just the bomb with the highest hopes (for some dumb reason).
EXT and Revelaitons bombed just as badly on the other systems they released for, not just the 3DS. This seems like a recurring pattern for BBB Capcom titles recently. Them investing in the blue ocean of mobile gaming is starting to make a but more sense now.
 

Celine

Member
i can't find original la sales unfortunately. the only ladx numbers i have are from the year after it released. sales are probably closer to 300k-400k.

i feel that anything greater than 400k for albw would be a decent success. spirit tracks and phantom hourglass largely sold to a new userbase, i think.
LA : 540K

Should be shipment data.

I have great hopes fot ALBW as stated previously in this thread:
>700K

EDIT
Famitsu:
LADX: 315K
OoA/OoS: 375K/375K
 

Nirolak

Mrgrgr
How is selling +500k "not doing so good" ?

Yeah, given that it will presumably not stop selling at least 5K a week for quite a while, I presume it will hit around the LTD of the last titles despite having a harder to work with platform situation.
 

L Thammy

Member
I don't think the issue with AniHawk's statement was "the Vita is a force". There's a certain audience for the Vita, and it's not unreasonable to believe that games that fit that audience will do well there, perhaps even better than they could on 3DS.

The problem is that he attributed that to the PlayStation name, which the Vita has had even when at its worst. I think that the Vita's software lineup has more to do with inertia; developers who made stuff with the PSP will continue to make stuff for its successor unless they actively make a decision to move their support elsewhere (Square Enix and Konami to mobile, Capcom to 3DS and probably now to mobile). In the case of games with lengthy development like God Eater 2, that might be just because they started off before they knew the situation any better.

Vita has definitely gotten healthier, but that's because the bigger software has started arrive. Similarly, people will start snapping up the PS4 when the software situation looks good, not because of the PlayStation name on the box.
 

LOCK

Member
The Wii U bump is larger than I expected. I wonder if it can get a 100k week.

The 3DS is still low, but I expect larger bumps for week 50 and 51. I wouldn't be shocked if week 51 is 500k+.

DQ is 200k+ on the Wii U. The expansion is doing great.
 
Excellent news for Wii U. I feel all this thing needs is more positive word of mouth. It's actually an awesome console, it's just very difficult to market. It will take a lot more work to actually make it a success, but I wouldn't call it dead yet.
 

CSM

Neo Member
Basically too little, too little for the WiiU:
Code:
Week 46:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |    
|  Wii   | 2007 |  36,230  | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  15,965  | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  15,906  | [/B]
----------------------------

Week 47:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |    
|  Wii   | 2007 |  54,362  | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  37,400  | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  21,002  | [/B]
----------------------------

Week 48:
---------------------------
| System | Year |  Sales  |   
|  Wii   | 2007 |  74,764 |
|  GC    | 2002 |  35,100 | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  27,325 | [/B]
---------------------------

Week 49:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  115,057 | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |   48,762 |[/B]
|  GC    | 2002 |   26,200 |
----------------------------

Week 46 - 49
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  280,413 | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  114,665 |
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  112,995 |[/B]
----------------------------

Week 49  LTD  
------------------------------
| System | Year |    Sales   |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  4,060,486 |
|  GC    | 2002 |  1,788,806 |
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  1,247,112 | [/B]
------------------------------
 

cw_sasuke

If all DLC came tied to $13 figurines, I'd consider all DLC to be free
Yeah, given that it will presumably not stop selling at least 5K a week for quite a while, I presume it will hit around the LTD of the last titles despite having a harder to work with platform situation.

Yes, and they already confirmed to support the game for a long time with updates and patches. They definitely will release another Burst or GotY version, once the Online Multiplayer Update is out.

Selling that much if you arent Nintendo, MH or DQ is nothing to write off - especially on these platforms.
 

Kandinsky

Member
Japanese developers are backing the Vita way more than the PS4. Take off the next gen goggles and see the forest for the trees.

In Japan? There is barely anything announced for PS4 from Japanese 3rd parties.....
Give it some time, I honestly believe the console will sell purely on tech/price/hype alone for at least 6 month (40-45k/week, with a strong launch of 600k or so) and will get third party announcements every other week starting Feb.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Sony needs to keep the pressure on with the Vita TV. Great little system and to get more devs to release back catalog stuff of missing PSP titles to also help that library as PSP stuff works pretty damned good same with PS1 titles.

We have more PS Vita titles on the way, so thats not too much of an issue with wanting more titles out. Though others still need to be patched to be added to the official supported list.

One good thing with the PSV TV is not only it has its own category for supported PSV TV Vita games, but also will tell you if you are trying to get something that isnt supported.

(Owns 2 here)
 

Frillen

Member
Give it some time, I honestly believe the console will sell purely on tech/price/hype alone for at least 6 month (40-45k/week, with a strong launch of 600k or so) and will get third party announcements every other week starting Feb.

Whatever makes you sleep at night, bud!
 
The Wii U bump is larger than I expected. I wonder if it can get a 100k week.

The 3DS is still low, but I expect larger bumps for week 50 and 51. I wouldn't be shocked if week 51 is 500k+.

DQ is 200k+ on the Wii U. The expansion is doing great.

Not going to happen, 500k+ HW sales in a single week is extremely rare.

Using the database in the op, weeks where a HW sold 500k+ in a single week (Famitsu):

Code:
PS2:
2000-02-28	630,552

GBA
2001-03-19	611,504

NDS:
2005-12-19	614,748

3DS:
2011-12-19	510,629
 

Jamix012

Member
Give it some time, I honestly believe the console will sell purely on tech/price/hype alone for at least 6 month (40-45k/week, with a strong launch of 600k or so) and will get third party announcements every other week starting Feb.

That's pretty crazy man, but I wish you luck with that prediction. If they stock enough I suppose a 600k launch isn't completely out of the realm of possibility but anything above 20k a week a month after launch will surprise me.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Basically too little, too little for the WiiU:
Code:
Week 46:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |    
|  Wii   | 2007 |  36,230  | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  15,965  | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  15,906  | [/B]
----------------------------

Week 47:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |    
|  Wii   | 2007 |  54,362  | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  37,400  | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  21,002  | [/B]
----------------------------

Week 48:
---------------------------
| System | Year |  Sales  |   
|  Wii   | 2007 |  74,764 |
|  GC    | 2002 |  35,100 | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  27,325 | [/B]
---------------------------

Week 49:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  115,057 | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |   48,762 |[/B]
|  GC    | 2002 |   26,200 |
----------------------------

Week 46 - 49
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  280,413 | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  114,665 |
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  112,995 |[/B]
----------------------------

Week 49  LTD  
------------------------------
| System | Year |    Sales   |
|  Wii   | 2013 |  4,060,486 |
|  GC    | 2002 |  1,788,806 |
[B]|  WiiU  | 2007 |  1,247,112 | [/B]
------------------------------

Personally, considering this fairly random holiday week pushed the sales up to near the GameCube's holiday numbers, I think that's nice at least. We'll see how the remaining holiday weeks go, but it's still surprising. The GameCube had a ton more games at that time from what I'm reading. Also you flipped the years for the Wii and Wii U in the last graph.
 

Kandinsky

Member
That's pretty crazy man, but I wish you luck with that prediction. If they stock enough I suppose a 600k launch isn't completely out of the realm of possibility but anything above 20k a week a month after launch will surprise me.

Yeah that sounds a little on the high side, lets change it to 35-40k.
 
It's free falling with around 550k shipped day one, the LTD might be respectable but that's not the whole story, especially for a multi platform title.

It's something like Kingdom Hearts 3D.

No it's not. Kingdom Hearts 3D was bomb because it didn't sell anywhere near its predecessor (Birth by Sleep). God Eater 2 is easily matching previous God Eater games. It has done well.
 

Madao

Member
Basically too little, too little for the WiiU:
Code:
Week 46:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |    
|  Wii   | 2007 |  36,230  | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  15,965  | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  15,906  | [/B]
----------------------------

Week 47:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |    
|  Wii   | 2007 |  54,362  | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  37,400  | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  21,002  | [/B]
----------------------------

Week 48:
---------------------------
| System | Year |  Sales  |   
|  Wii   | 2007 |  74,764 |
|  GC    | 2002 |  35,100 | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  27,325 | [/B]
---------------------------

Week 49:
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  115,057 | 
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |   48,762 |[/B]
|  GC    | 2002 |   26,200 |
----------------------------

Week 46 - 49
----------------------------
| System | Year |   Sales  |
|  Wii   | 2007 |  280,413 | 
|  GC    | 2002 |  114,665 |
[B]|  WiiU  | 2013 |  112,995 |[/B]
----------------------------

Week 49  LTD  
------------------------------
| System | Year |    Sales   |
|  Wii   | 2013 |  4,060,486 |
|  GC    | 2002 |  1,788,806 |
[B]|  WiiU  | 2007 |  1,247,112 | [/B]
------------------------------

Wii U's console saving power revealed: time travel.
 
No it's not. Kingdom Hearts 3D was bomb because it didn't sell anywhere near its predecessor (Birth by Sleep). God Eater 2 is easily matching previous God Eater games. It has done well.

That Kingdom Hearts 3D comparison is baffling. GE2 will end up having a LTD on par with previous entries or maybe even higher. KH3D on the other hand......yeah we all know what happened.
 

ZSaberLink

Media Create Maven
Also, while there are pretty much always obligatory posts saying "this won't last, it's an anomaly, etc.", there seem to be a lot more this time than usual. Just enjoy the usual holiday bump and have fun =). If people are happy, let them be, it's the time of year for it after all.

It's a bigger Wii U holiday bump than I expected. For those who are thinking it's DQX, I doubt it. I think it's mostly a holiday bump because this DQX is an expansion game that requires the original game. I do think it's nice that a good number of people also bought the game on the Wii U. It at least means people are somewhat happy with it, and it seems to be nearly sold out (80-100%).

Does anyone know the original DQX's LTD on Wii & Wii U?

For those asking about Mario & Sonic's sales, the Mario & Sonic Winter Games opened at 19k on Wii. Thus I guess I'm not surprised by the Wii U version not charting.
 

Yamauchi

Banned
Nintendo is fortunate to basically have this holiday season to themselves in Japan. It's their last chance to capitalize on their headstart, and it looks like they might actually do decently over the next 4 weeks.
 

CrisKre

Member
That is both pleasant and surprising to see for Wii U.
Those are very respectable numbers, bump or not.
Hope they keep it up! I love the system.
 
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