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Why is The Witcher 2 10x more difficult than the first one?
- Thread starter RoadHazard
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They both have reverse difficulty curves; the first chapter or so in both is pretty brutal but past that you're practically on godmode outside one or two difficulty spikes. Witcher 2 is comparatively harder in the sense that as it has action combat there's more room to mess up, but the difficulty still drops rapidly somewhere towards the end of the first main chapter.
They wanted to make Dark Souls combat and connect it with Batman auto combo.
What they got is kind of batman combat (but way worse) with Dark Souls mobs hit hard without proper flexible fighting system that Dark Souls has.
Imo they should choose one and try to make it fun. From Geralts point of view and according to lore Batman like combat would be best since Geralt combat style is ultrafast in books not suitable for DS slow combat
What they got is kind of batman combat (but way worse) with Dark Souls mobs hit hard without proper flexible fighting system that Dark Souls has.
Imo they should choose one and try to make it fun. From Geralts point of view and according to lore Batman like combat would be best since Geralt combat style is ultrafast in books not suitable for DS slow combat
This. It gets way easier as you progress.
I think part of the problem is, you start out with very little, and some aspects are locked behind the skill tree. Like improved block, improved rolling etc.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
This dog was broken, man. More so than letho.
ThreePiMatt
Member
The Witcher 1 combat was laughably easy. Witcher 2 started off kind of tough but once you got the hang of it I thought it also became pretty easy as well. I don't think I had any real difficulties with TW2 post-Flotsam.
The only boss that gave me a problem was The Observer other then that I found the game very easy.
Yeah, yeah, from the second chapter. But the boss of Chapter 1 was harder than anything in TW2. Especially if you are trying to save the witch.
PinkCrayon
Member
Don't worry, just when you start getting the hang of it the combat will all of a sudden get easy and boring.
Funchameleon
Banned
Yeah TW2 starts frustrating and rapidly gets VASTLY easier as you progress to the point that only the rare boss fights have any challenge (and often not in a very good way). One of the many things that make it a bad game.
i played through the game using this and I liked it a lot
Oni Link 666
Member
I think the Witcher 1 is a lot more difficult due to its more limited combat system. I also found the Witcher 2 difficult when starting out, but it gets much easier once you really learn how to play it and start leveling up and using your potions correctly and all that. You're pretty much a Jedi by the end of the game.
It's sad how many people are so bad at TW2.
This dog was broken, man. More so than letho.
Only difficult spot of the first game. Awful mostly given that the fight commences without warning immediately after a long cutscene after emerging from a dungeon. You are given no opportunity to heal up, buff with potions, etc... Just suddenly thrown into the fight. Death means potentially restarting from a save long before the encounter(though I think it autosaves at start of long cutscene still not giving any chance to prepare).
Fight isn't too bad if you had at least buffed up Aard, but this was a really shoddy moment in W1. Rest of the game was insanely simple to the point of feeling god mode is turned on, even on hardest difficulty, just given how brutally OP you can get working up the tech tree. (Witcher 2 is identical, working down any of the trees just makes you so OP for the mid/late game even on "Dark" diff).
I LOVE the games, but the combat in both is dreadful. Severely imbalanced in favor of the player, leaving the eventual feeling of being just tedious to deal with. The narrative, choices, structure, and relationships make the two games worth visiting, but they are rather poor "games".
RoadHazard
Gold Member
Yeah, that's what I'm using. Doesn't feel all that great, because there's no actual full analog movement. Geralt still just either walks or runs, and he can't turn smoothly. And the menus are an absolute chore to use, including the quick menu where you choose signs and other stuff. You'd think they would make it so you could just point the analog stick to the sign/thing you want (the menu is shaped like a circle, after all), but no, you have to move the selection over to what you want to select using the D-pad. Really slow and clunky. So not a great experience.
Lana Del Rey
Banned
"This game could have learnt from assasins creed".
Ehm.
Edit : Haha he sounds like he's about to cry the further you get into the video.
A.Romero
Member
I remember I had a really hard time at the beginning of the game
. Later, I had a hard time with the bugs in the forest due to not having a silver sword and thinking I would get it for free somehow from the dwarf blacksmith.
I got stuck in a couple of places later on but nothing too difficult to stomach. Plus, I enjoyed the game a lot.
I remember starting it again later on and feeling the game was much easier than the first time. I think it just has to "click".
BTW, I didn't fall onto the roll roll roll scenario most people talk about except for a couple of fights.
My advice: Use your arsenal: potions, bombs, traps, signs and weapons and you should be fine.
It does feel way easier towards the end with all the stuff you have by then,
The weight system sucks though. I hate that shit in any game,
The attack on the tower
I got stuck in a couple of places later on but nothing too difficult to stomach. Plus, I enjoyed the game a lot.
I remember starting it again later on and feeling the game was much easier than the first time. I think it just has to "click".
BTW, I didn't fall onto the roll roll roll scenario most people talk about except for a couple of fights.
My advice: Use your arsenal: potions, bombs, traps, signs and weapons and you should be fine.
It does feel way easier towards the end with all the stuff you have by then,
The weight system sucks though. I hate that shit in any game,
I thought it was meant to be hard, since I never played the first game. Managed to finish it though and thought it was fun. There were sections that I had to repeat endlessly though mainly because a slight touch on your back and you're gone. On my second play through I got up to a part where I had to steal some guys clothes or something and you are in a tiny room trying to fight like 6 or 7 guys. Like fuck that I don't even remember how to play anymore it's been so long. Guess I should just youtube it to see the alternate story.
Ultra Magnus
Member
It's all about that Letho fight man. Took me forever to beat that dude but once I did the combat kinda fell in place. For the impatient I can see why the combat would bother you but for me I'm waiting for that sweet sweet backstab.
Lee Chaolan
Member
Dragon's Dogma combat would have made this game perfect for me. Combat was definitely worst part of the game imo.
people keep saying the updates make the game explain a lot more about its systems
i guess at first it actively deceived you or something because it was still totally opaque to me. also the spell names didn't make any sense and i never played enough to get used to them because i just kept dying.
loved everything else about the game but after a couple hours of beating my head against it with no feedback or results i gave up. really hope wild hunt is better about this.
i guess at first it actively deceived you or something because it was still totally opaque to me. also the spell names didn't make any sense and i never played enough to get used to them because i just kept dying.
loved everything else about the game but after a couple hours of beating my head against it with no feedback or results i gave up. really hope wild hunt is better about this.
Super Nothing
Member
This is pretty much how I played the game as well. You have to run circles around the battlefield avoiding enemies while your health and stamina regenerate. Roll when they attack. Quen will protect you from any attack, but you will not regenerate stamina while it's active.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I'm doing a bit better now that I've got a bit better feeling for what works and what doesn't, what the signs are useful for, how absolutely essential it is to buff yourself up with potions and stuff before most fights, etc. Also, rolling around a lot. I can manage small to medium groups of enemies decently now, but larger ones are still really hard.
Same here. Hated the difficulty setting in Witcher 2. It's not that it was impossible, you just died too often, with that last hit from the last enemy and then you had to start all over again. Fricking annoying. After some time I put it on easy and then the game is just taking the piss, there's no strategy involved at all anymore. Just mash and get it over with. Then I read that CDPR did this on purpose because they want players who put it on easy to feel like noobs.
Well fuck you CDPR, I'm not buying W3.
rasberryjam
Member
This dog was broken, man. More so than letho.
I only beat that asshole because he got stuck in a cart or something.
RoadHazard
Gold Member
I've also had to relearn the importance of manually saving often, since this game doesn't behave like most modern games. It does autosave, but I'm having some trouble understanding exactly when that happens. I thought it was every time you complete a quest phase, but I just found out that's not always true. Had completed a quest of which the last phase took a fair amount of time, then moved on to do other things. Got jumped, died, had to restart from before the quest phase I had just completed. Luckily it wasn't a difficult quest, so I easily got through it again, but still pretty annoying. Please, game, autosave every time I've accomplished something quest-wise.
This dog was broken, man. More so than letho.
While both Witcher games become extremely easy after a certain point this asshole and Letho (although at least you can actually dodge and use strategy to beat him, unlike the Hellhound that can just stun-lock you to death on a whim) definitely make sure you earn your godhood.
ScepticMatt
Member
Combat definitely isn't the strong suit of either game, with weird difficult spikes at launch (much better with patches/mods)
I don't know...the fucking ghosts destroyed me witcher 1.
Stun lasts like 30 seconds....attack, attack ,attack while i couldn't do anything...then another stun to kill me...
It was purely luck based and frustrating as hell..The worst fight in the game is absolutely the one in chapter 4 where you had to use a certain herb to stop the king of the wild hunt....Nightmares thinking of that one.
I don't know WHAT were they thinking with that stun attack.
I know people hated roll for whatever reason but at least gave you quick movement out of harm's way.
In TW3 they decided to remove rolls and use "pirouettes"...I have no clue how this will turn...I was hoping they would go for some souls-like combat but its seems they are regressing to TW1 style T_T
xenorevlis
Member
I too was a bit off-put by the combat in this game after coming to it from the first one, which I felt once you kind of played with enough was too easy but made sense for playing with a mouse and keyboard. I agree that TW2 also isn't very gamepad friendly for certain things but...
I'm doing my second play-through with this and very much enjoy it now that I've got the hang of it. I'm actually getting more into the alchemy side of things this time and relying more on deliberate combat choices than just mashing attack. If you'd like, I could perhaps make a few videos of how it handles compared to the normal combat, or you could look at videos that are available online.
Highly suggested for those of you who want a better experience with the combat throughout the game and even the normal difficulties benefit from it (though playing it with the higher difficulties is very rewarding in a Demon/Dark Souls kind of way).
I think you mean is it worth downloading the combat re balance mod that one of the developers made in his free time? It doesn't cost anything, aside from a moment of your time to sign up/in to the redkit site and then downloading it. EDIT - http://redkit.cdprojektred.com/index.php?c=mod&m=show&p=77
I'm doing my second play-through with this and very much enjoy it now that I've got the hang of it. I'm actually getting more into the alchemy side of things this time and relying more on deliberate combat choices than just mashing attack. If you'd like, I could perhaps make a few videos of how it handles compared to the normal combat, or you could look at videos that are available online.
Highly suggested for those of you who want a better experience with the combat throughout the game and even the normal difficulties benefit from it (though playing it with the higher difficulties is very rewarding in a Demon/Dark Souls kind of way).
chickdigger802
Banned
hated those plants that poison you in witcher 2.
witcher 2 wasn't bad at launch. just max that magic armor spell and your golden.
kraken boss was a bitch though. game over if you fail the QTE's and i didn't play with a 360 pad much for games back then.
was super frustrating!
witcher 2 wasn't bad at launch. just max that magic armor spell and your golden.
kraken boss was a bitch though. game over if you fail the QTE's and i didn't play with a 360 pad much for games back then.
was super frustrating!
DanielJr82
Member
The story is the best part, no shame playing it on easy, especially if you're a working/family man.
Ugh, I hope the hardest difficulties are all available from the get go then.
TheAssist
Member
This and the time were you have to protect that woman. You fight 6 guys, 3 ranged and 3 melee, both unit types stand several meters away from another and the woman pulls agro when you dont attack them. So if you attack the melees she gets killed by the ranged guys and vice versa. Also the Operator fight itself wasnt hard, but the level design was crappy as hell (most difficulty of the game comes from level design imho.
During the operator fight, you are in a small room with pillars and debris. Most of the time when you try to roll, you hit the debris hit box and stop. The operator summons two monsters which one or two hit you. Also they are very fast. And to make it even more complicated the operator summons a shield that damages you when you come near it.
So you are fighting in small room, you can hardly use your roll, you dont have time to cast spells because the monster thingies will run at you before you have casted anything (but if they clip in the geometry you can mindcontrol them, which is nice) and one quarter of the rooms is blocked because of the shield the operator has ...
Would the room be twice as big, it would be an easy fight (though you can get out of fight during phase changes if you hide behind a pillar). This way you need traps, some good timing or stun/insta kill luck.
In general I find the game to be the most fun when you use signs and fight in open terrain.
This interview makes no sense, they must have meant Demon's Souls, instead of Dark Souls.
Unless CDPR is in possession of a time machine.
Same. I loved the hell out of Witcher 1, and basically gave up on Witcher 2 after the starter castle assault area. It was unnecessarily difficult and not fun at all. I will not be buying the third game.
I usually play games on the hardest difficulty level and finished Demon's Souls (one of my favorite games of last gen). Witcher 2 just screamed poor gameplay design. I tried the game again after the huge update they did, and it still sucked.
It wasn't just the difficulty either. Making the gameplay as complicated as possible with the signs and weird crafting, and making it necessary to win encounters (give me a choice, dammit!) was stupidly punitive and felt more like work than a game I was playing for fun.
Seriously, fuck Witcher 2. Less than zero interest in the third game.
Mashin Haters
Member
theres no shame in lowering the difficulty. Thats what i did and i had a blast with the game. Of course i tried using all my abilities to fight to keep the combat fun and different everytime.
Yup me too. Hardest boss? Letho.
In Witcher 1? The hellhound at hard can be easy if you know what to do, though I admit the first time he was a bad motherfucker for killing me so fast. I found the Golem harder because i only found the trick to kill when he was at low low health.