The Mana Legend
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34,000 pieces of Wii U software were sold in the UK in January (incl. NintyLand)
- Thread starter CrunchinJelly
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Well then.
"Are those shipped or sold through? Wii U has no games. Nintendo is doomed. Wii U means life."
I hope these covers the jokes.
Nintendo needs to react quickly as it reacted with 3DS fumbled launch. Aggressive pricing, steady high profile software releases and an Ambassador program 2.0 perhaps.
I hope these covers the jokes.
Nintendo needs to react quickly as it reacted with 3DS fumbled launch. Aggressive pricing, steady high profile software releases and an Ambassador program 2.0 perhaps.
KennyLinder
Member
I said this in the Rayman thread yesterday but whatever..
Nintendo should of held back on the release of Wii U until they had substantial software for it. Mario 3D, Mario Kart, Pikmin, 101, etc. They would be up against PS4/X3, but will be anyway.
Nintendo should of held back on the release of Wii U until they had substantial software for it. Mario 3D, Mario Kart, Pikmin, 101, etc. They would be up against PS4/X3, but will be anyway.
Porcile
Member
Who might that be? Ubisoft? EA? Activison? THQ? Sega? Talk about sticking their neck out.
Little Old Man
Member
GAF needs to realise the above.
grimshawish
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Recent report showed retail is still bigger and its growing slower than other entertainment digital services.
UK consumption is getting bludgeoned by its government. Not difficult.
I just hope the other consoles don't go the same route.
It's not gonna work twice of Nintendo.
Porcile
Member
GAF also needs to realise that they won't be some miraculous knight in shining armour either.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
I'm still not sure how the bolded is possible. I mean, Nintendo said the same thing about the 3DS and I didn't understand it then, either.
They must have some really horrible suppliers.
DeFiBkIlLeR
Banned
Reap what you sow...
From every aspect, Nintendo has always treated Europe like shit.
From every aspect, Nintendo has always treated Europe like shit.
At least the Wii U seems to be selling somewhat better in the rest of Europe, so there's that. I think Nintendo always had a rather tough time in the UK -- if I remember correctly it was also the only European market where Sega gave Nintendo a run for its money.
The Wii U tanking in Europe makes me feel pretty uneasy, though. NoE has been the saving grace of Wii localizations. If their business is starting to fall apart it might not be viable anymore to initiate localizations in Europe -- and after Xenoblade, Last Story, Pandora's Tower and Project Zero 2 there's very, very good reason to doubt NoA's ambitions in that regard...
The Wii U tanking in Europe makes me feel pretty uneasy, though. NoE has been the saving grace of Wii localizations. If their business is starting to fall apart it might not be viable anymore to initiate localizations in Europe -- and after Xenoblade, Last Story, Pandora's Tower and Project Zero 2 there's very, very good reason to doubt NoA's ambitions in that regard...
The Mana Legend
Banned
Because of dat GamePad controller costs a shit ton to manufacture.
Spieler Eins
Member
And now, empty february and march upcoming, yay. Probably doesn't look too much better anywhere.
I always knew their dumb launch window talk was bullshit, but I didn't think the lineup would end up THIS bad. Monster Hunter is my next Wii U game and the next that could appeal to the masses being Lego, both almost 2 months away.
They've been pretty good since several years. It's just that the Wii U generally doesn't offer very much right now.
I always knew their dumb launch window talk was bullshit, but I didn't think the lineup would end up THIS bad. Monster Hunter is my next Wii U game and the next that could appeal to the masses being Lego, both almost 2 months away.
They've been pretty good since several years. It's just that the Wii U generally doesn't offer very much right now.
Not surpising considering:
A) Barely any retail presence
B) Games are still ridiculously expensive, how many of the 360/PS3 software units moved anywhere near RRP
C) Nintendo doesnt seem to want to put any money in to promoting the console, when was the last time anyone saw a Wii U advert (print/TV?)
Nintendo should just admit defeat, sell a Wii U SKU without a gamepad and thus making it cheaper to make and sell and just throw it directly as a competitor against the PS3/360 in terms of price. If people want a gamepad they can buy seperately, sure devs will then probably never/only rarely use the gamepad in unique ways like ZombiU due to the fact it will be an optional add on, but it might be a way forward
A) Barely any retail presence
B) Games are still ridiculously expensive, how many of the 360/PS3 software units moved anywhere near RRP
C) Nintendo doesnt seem to want to put any money in to promoting the console, when was the last time anyone saw a Wii U advert (print/TV?)
Nintendo should just admit defeat, sell a Wii U SKU without a gamepad and thus making it cheaper to make and sell and just throw it directly as a competitor against the PS3/360 in terms of price. If people want a gamepad they can buy seperately, sure devs will then probably never/only rarely use the gamepad in unique ways like ZombiU due to the fact it will be an optional add on, but it might be a way forward
I wouldn't take him seriously, he has some sort of problem with the Vita in general (see his "wow 4 exclusives!" post in the Vita 2013 lineup thread - complete with incorrect maths).
Everyone seems to point to the gamepad as the big culprit.
Dat 800x480 single touch resistive screen. I can't see it.
Maybe the streaming tech is the expensive bit?
Read the Chipworks GPU thread. The Wii U might not be very powerful, but it's still pretty expensive hardware apparently. It's just that for one reason or another Nintendo's number one priority seems to be efficiency instead of hardware power... Smart move? Not really.
DragonSworne
Banned
Its the huge battery.
But that just goes back to the "shit suppliers" point. There are 7" android tablets for $70 at retail.
The problem is not with the console itself, that's fairly cheap to manufacture (edit: or maybe not!). The problem is that the controller itself uses some quite sophisticated and expensive hardware (large screens, proprietary communication technology, NFC, etc.) which is where the loss is made.
I saw a total of 2 TVC's here in Australia over the Christmas break - and that was on a shitty station.
iceatcs
Junior Member
Eh?!
I thought drop 25% from 2011. Quite big drop, quarter of market.
The Mana Legend
Banned
That also has a camera, wii motion sensor bar, gyro, microphone, streaming, and more.
It's basically a damn handheld. That, along with the initial Wii U console costs brings the Wii U manufacturing costs to pretty insane levels for outdated graphical tech.
pieatorium
Member
* Completely ignores other numbers*
I really can't believe people have no idea why the Wii U, 3DS and Vita are tanking, there isn't any software. Simple, nothing to do with marketing, nothing to do with the consoles themselves, there is just no software.
KennyLinder
Member
I can't fucking believe Pikmin 3 isn't out. It was a Wii game originally! What on Earth is going on in their studios?!
Compare them to studios like Naughty Dog or Bethesda. It's a joke.
Compare them to studios like Naughty Dog or Bethesda. It's a joke.
Little Old Man
Member
They'll do a damn sight better than this.
reptilescorpio
Member
That is a bit more shocking than I expected. Wow.
Jezbollah
Member
Not surprised at all.
People dont upgrade to a console when there is no compelling reason to do so.
Likewise, no one spending money when they have no compelling reason to do so.
In my opinion, the Wii U was the wrong console to release at the wrong time. Looks like I'm not the only person in this country who thinks that.
People dont upgrade to a console when there is no compelling reason to do so.
Likewise, no one spending money when they have no compelling reason to do so.
In my opinion, the Wii U was the wrong console to release at the wrong time. Looks like I'm not the only person in this country who thinks that.
zerokoolpsx
Member
I know they were doing bad, but not that bad. Even the Vita is doing better than the Wii U.
The question is why didn't they have them ready for the Wii U launch? Launching a year before the PS4/X3 is genius, but Nintendo handled it poorly.
Hydrargyrus
Member
It's even worse than expected.
Nintendo needs a price cut a first party top seller asap
Nintendo needs a price cut a first party top seller asap
Don't Mock the gamepad bro! It's pretty awesome, screen looks nice even though I use an retina iPad on a day to day basis.
And yeah Miracast would be expensive. Also dat 9-axis gyro.
I keep saying this over and over again but whatever. The marketing for the WiiU in this country is near non-existant. I'm telling you, hardly anyone knows it exists and if they do they think it's just a Wii peripheral or something.
It's horrible. What on earth is Nintendo doing? They really should've branded the thing outside the "Wii" name. Pretty much everyone saw the obvious conflict yet Nintendo didn't apparently.
The lack of exclusive, must-have games doesn't help.
It's horrible. What on earth is Nintendo doing? They really should've branded the thing outside the "Wii" name. Pretty much everyone saw the obvious conflict yet Nintendo didn't apparently.
The lack of exclusive, must-have games doesn't help.
grimshawish
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Opus Angelorum
Member
Ubisoft vindicated?
DragonSworne
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It should have come out 2 years ago
electroplankton
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Wii U is fucking terrible.
But given the news, I would have put also Vita in the mix, since its software sales are terrible as well.
KennyLinder
Member
Vyse The Legend
Member
WiiU has a smaller library than every other platform on there by a large margin even the Vita.
Still, not good.
Still, not good.
The only reason I haven't sold my WiiU yet is the sad truth that noone else wants it either.