So the MSL is on Day 5 right now. Here is a thread to talk about it.
While there have been some good SC II matches I've found myself missing the absolute insane timings, control, macro, and playing ability that BW pro offer. So tonight I'm going back.
Group H is before D, but the purpose of this thread is to build hype for a Ro32 match. A series that will eliminate two of these four players.
Starting time: 6h 30m from post time.
1am PST - 4am EST
Streams: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/GTR
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Musou
Casting: No English casting (Maybe I will cast, who knows)
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Group H
(P)Kal < La Mancha > (T)Really
(T)Reality < Monte Cristo > (Z)Shine
Winners Match < Circuit Breaker >
Losers Match < Circuit Breaker >
Final Match < Dante's Peak SE >
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Group D
(Z)Jaedong < La Mancha> (T)Sea
(T)Flash < Monte Cristo > (P)Bisu
Winners Match < Circuit Breaker >
Losers Match < Circuit Breaker >
Final Match < Dante's Peak SE >
The #1 Terran in the world, #1 Zerg in the world, #2 Protoss in the world, #3 Terran in the world
Bracket of death indeed. (Click image for TL link)
The mechanics of these caliber of players are so far and away. (IM)MVP was a good SC:BW player. Respectable imo. He had a 40% win rate in Brood War.
(IM)Nestea was never good at BroodWar 1v1. His name was Zergbong and he was stuck in 2v2. Both of these players have won a GSL.
Flash has a lifetime 72% winrate, 80% winrate in the last 6 months. Absolutely unheard of.
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(Z)Jaedong
» Jaedong is a three time OSL winner and a two time MSL winner. He is also known as the Tyrant and the Legend Killer because of the players he defeated in his early debuting days, amongst them sAviOr, Reach, NaDa, GoRush, July and iloveoov. Since then he has evolved into a true monster and has more or less been dominating the SC:BW scene with his rival Flash. He is known for his micro-management and innovative playstyle, whether it be popularizing 5 Hatch Hydra, 2 Hatch Muta or revolutionizing ZvZ.
Statistics
Jaedong vs Flash 19-21
Jaedong vs Bisu 5-8
Jaedong vs Sea 10-7
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(T)Sea
» Sea is a player who has had alot of ups and downs. Sea is quite known for his somewhat shaky performance in starleagues, but nevertheless he has a lot of experience and while his achievements aren't as fancy as the others' he is definitely capable of making an upset. He holds the third highest TvZ ELO peak of currently active players.
Statistics
Sea vs Jaedong 7-10
Sea vs Flash 0-8
Sea vs Bisu 2-4
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(P)Bisu
»Bisu is a three timer MSL winner. His nickname is the Revolutionist, which he earned when he forever changed the PvZ matchup by defeating sAvior in the 2007 GOMTV MSL finals in a revolutionizing manner. He is known for his usage of Corsairs and Dark Templars that resulted in what was called the "Bisu build".
Statistics
Bisu vs Jaedong 8-5
Bisu vs Flash 9-12
Bisu vs Sea 4-2
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(T)Flash
» Flash is a three timer OSL winner and a two time MSL winner. The Ultimate Weapon is Flash. But the weapon was not always so ultimate, at his debut he was heavily disliked for his "cheesy" and "boring" playstyle which lacked variation. It wasn't until 2008, when he won his first starleague and defeated players like Jaedong and Bisu along the way that people opened their eyes for him. Flash has since become the most well-rounded player, combining strategic versatility, decision making, and mechanics. He is the player that makes the least mistakes of all and currently the Neo of SC:BW.
Statistics
Flash vs Jaedong 21-19
Flash vs Bisu 12-9
Flash vs Sea 8-0
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Flash is Destiny.
A brief history of Flash, The Ultimate Weapon.
From the time of (T)BoxeR, Terrans have ruled the universe. The Emperor, The Monster Terran, and the Tornado Terran were the first three Bonjwas to have ever existed. As time decayed the Bonjwas' sovereignty, no new Terran appeared to claim his birthright. So began the dark ages.
It was written on the stars that in these darkest of hours, the Chosen One would be born. The perfect player, endowed with the greatest of the Bonjwas gifts. Yet the prophecy did not say he would arrive perfect. The sharpest steel required the hottest fire. And so it was that the Terran child (T)Flash came into the scene a cheeser, and ironically, lived under the Storm Zergs care. The world forsook him, deriding his turtle style and his personal failures. They said he was just a mechanical freak, doomed to the oblivion of mediocre Proleague Terrans. Still, he labored carrying those around him time and time again until his back and wrists would break. The early supernova was burning out.
And it was to become a black hole that would consume all creation. (T)Flash knew what no one else did. He knew, not because of his outstanding mind, but because of his great heart. Destiny was no trifling matter to be given him without sacrifice. Like matter, it was neither created nor destroyed. Destiny, that majestic triumph of the Terran lineage ((T)BoxeR, (T)iloveoov, and (T)NaDa) and its inherent ingenuity ((T)Midas and (T)XellOs), had to be earned.
Objectives
Finals
(T)Flash is the greatest player of our time. (T)Flash is going to become the greatest player of all time. All that he needs is that one, final title to shatter (T)NaDas record. Sure, (T)NaDa has other records, but the most prestigious is his Golden Mouse and Golden Badge combination. No other gamer has that. Not (T)iloveoov. Not (T)BoxeR. Not (Z)sAviOr. (T)Flash needs that Golden Badge. Fans may say that he doesnt need that to be the GOAT, but it will validate his long years of hard work. It will justify his sweat and tears and bloody fingers. It will affirm his potential as the Ultimate Weapon.
Analysis
Lee Young Ho is as close to perfection as can be. He has no weakness.
Early game, he is the best bunker-rusher of all time along with (T)BoxeR. Bunker rushes require intense micro and the largest balls of all. Sure, 4 pool is riskier, but its purpose is two-fold: (1) to end the game early/get an advantage and (2) mess with your opponents mind. Losing a 4/5 pool will still accomplish one of the two. It's essentially a sacrifice with a sure reward in series play. Bunker rushes are tests of willpower. Failure will not necessarily defeat you but set you back, so its mostly a question of how committed you are to your strategy and how you will transition given success or failure. Its even a very questionable move because in the face of greedy builds, the Terran still has the option to simply play for a timing attack which is much safer than a bunker rush. (T)Flash has memorized the handbook of bunker rushing and has even amended its provisions. His other cheeses are artistic masterpieces of micro and innovation, be they BBS or proxies.
Mid game, he is the best timing-pusher of all time. He reads his opponent very well with prescient scans and in-game analysis (worker counting, anyone?). He also has a very solid defensive style that negates all forms of midgame cheese. He gets early turrets to counteract Mutalisk aggression or Reaver harass. He positions his Tanks in graduated clumps so that they protect several areas and at the same time overlap to provide killing power. His Vultures are such a pain to deal with because hes so good at timing a surround + mine to ensure that not all mines are shot down.
Late game, he is the most durable player. I think the most exemplary games of Flash have involved comebacks from the most massive deficits ((T)Flash v (T)Fantasy MSL game 1, (T)Flash v (T)firebathero Neo Medusa, (T)Flash v (T)Leta OSL, (T)Flash v (T)Mind Proleague 10-11, I could go on and on). He simply does not give up. In late-game battles, he manages to be incredibly cost efficient. At a time when most players are so drained physically and mentally, (T)Flash is so laser-focused he can still target-fire tank clumps and navigate his Dropships to destroy the most important tech buildings.
Overall, (T)Flash has unequalled game sense. He detects things from the smallest details. He understands when to play aggressively and when to play passively. I cannot stress this enough. This is why his anti-fans hate him for either turtling (because it looks like his opponent just keeps sending waves of units to crash against an immovable tank and turret line) or cheesing (because it looks like (T)Flash just walks in his opponents nat/expos and simply obliterates him in one fell swoop). This is a result of constant, instinctive thinking. Its an oxymoron, to be sure, but (T)Flashs genius is not rational. His mechanical talent can be learned, but his mental talent is the only one of its kind. Is his opponent gunning for an economic lead? Is he going for an all in? One by one, (T)Flash analyzes his opponents options and eliminates them one by one, forcing the other player to ride his cadence.
(T)Flash is favored in every single matchup in this group. It may be called the Group of Death, but realistically, (T)Flash can simply look at it as the Group of Just another day in the Office.
While there have been some good SC II matches I've found myself missing the absolute insane timings, control, macro, and playing ability that BW pro offer. So tonight I'm going back.
Group H is before D, but the purpose of this thread is to build hype for a Ro32 match. A series that will eliminate two of these four players.
Starting time: 6h 30m from post time.
1am PST - 4am EST
Streams: http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/GTR
http://www.teamliquid.net/video/streams/Musou
Casting: No English casting (Maybe I will cast, who knows)
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Group H
(P)Kal < La Mancha > (T)Really
(T)Reality < Monte Cristo > (Z)Shine
Winners Match < Circuit Breaker >
Losers Match < Circuit Breaker >
Final Match < Dante's Peak SE >
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Group D
(Z)Jaedong < La Mancha> (T)Sea
(T)Flash < Monte Cristo > (P)Bisu
Winners Match < Circuit Breaker >
Losers Match < Circuit Breaker >
Final Match < Dante's Peak SE >
The #1 Terran in the world, #1 Zerg in the world, #2 Protoss in the world, #3 Terran in the world
Bracket of death indeed. (Click image for TL link)
The mechanics of these caliber of players are so far and away. (IM)MVP was a good SC:BW player. Respectable imo. He had a 40% win rate in Brood War.
(IM)Nestea was never good at BroodWar 1v1. His name was Zergbong and he was stuck in 2v2. Both of these players have won a GSL.
Flash has a lifetime 72% winrate, 80% winrate in the last 6 months. Absolutely unheard of.
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(Z)Jaedong
» Jaedong is a three time OSL winner and a two time MSL winner. He is also known as the Tyrant and the Legend Killer because of the players he defeated in his early debuting days, amongst them sAviOr, Reach, NaDa, GoRush, July and iloveoov. Since then he has evolved into a true monster and has more or less been dominating the SC:BW scene with his rival Flash. He is known for his micro-management and innovative playstyle, whether it be popularizing 5 Hatch Hydra, 2 Hatch Muta or revolutionizing ZvZ.
Statistics
Jaedong vs Flash 19-21
Jaedong vs Bisu 5-8
Jaedong vs Sea 10-7
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(T)Sea
» Sea is a player who has had alot of ups and downs. Sea is quite known for his somewhat shaky performance in starleagues, but nevertheless he has a lot of experience and while his achievements aren't as fancy as the others' he is definitely capable of making an upset. He holds the third highest TvZ ELO peak of currently active players.
Statistics
Sea vs Jaedong 7-10
Sea vs Flash 0-8
Sea vs Bisu 2-4
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(P)Bisu
»Bisu is a three timer MSL winner. His nickname is the Revolutionist, which he earned when he forever changed the PvZ matchup by defeating sAvior in the 2007 GOMTV MSL finals in a revolutionizing manner. He is known for his usage of Corsairs and Dark Templars that resulted in what was called the "Bisu build".
Statistics
Bisu vs Jaedong 8-5
Bisu vs Flash 9-12
Bisu vs Sea 4-2
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(T)Flash
» Flash is a three timer OSL winner and a two time MSL winner. The Ultimate Weapon is Flash. But the weapon was not always so ultimate, at his debut he was heavily disliked for his "cheesy" and "boring" playstyle which lacked variation. It wasn't until 2008, when he won his first starleague and defeated players like Jaedong and Bisu along the way that people opened their eyes for him. Flash has since become the most well-rounded player, combining strategic versatility, decision making, and mechanics. He is the player that makes the least mistakes of all and currently the Neo of SC:BW.
Statistics
Flash vs Jaedong 21-19
Flash vs Bisu 12-9
Flash vs Sea 8-0
_____
Flash is Destiny.
A brief history of Flash, The Ultimate Weapon.
From the time of (T)BoxeR, Terrans have ruled the universe. The Emperor, The Monster Terran, and the Tornado Terran were the first three Bonjwas to have ever existed. As time decayed the Bonjwas' sovereignty, no new Terran appeared to claim his birthright. So began the dark ages.
It was written on the stars that in these darkest of hours, the Chosen One would be born. The perfect player, endowed with the greatest of the Bonjwas gifts. Yet the prophecy did not say he would arrive perfect. The sharpest steel required the hottest fire. And so it was that the Terran child (T)Flash came into the scene a cheeser, and ironically, lived under the Storm Zergs care. The world forsook him, deriding his turtle style and his personal failures. They said he was just a mechanical freak, doomed to the oblivion of mediocre Proleague Terrans. Still, he labored carrying those around him time and time again until his back and wrists would break. The early supernova was burning out.
And it was to become a black hole that would consume all creation. (T)Flash knew what no one else did. He knew, not because of his outstanding mind, but because of his great heart. Destiny was no trifling matter to be given him without sacrifice. Like matter, it was neither created nor destroyed. Destiny, that majestic triumph of the Terran lineage ((T)BoxeR, (T)iloveoov, and (T)NaDa) and its inherent ingenuity ((T)Midas and (T)XellOs), had to be earned.
Objectives
Finals
(T)Flash is the greatest player of our time. (T)Flash is going to become the greatest player of all time. All that he needs is that one, final title to shatter (T)NaDas record. Sure, (T)NaDa has other records, but the most prestigious is his Golden Mouse and Golden Badge combination. No other gamer has that. Not (T)iloveoov. Not (T)BoxeR. Not (Z)sAviOr. (T)Flash needs that Golden Badge. Fans may say that he doesnt need that to be the GOAT, but it will validate his long years of hard work. It will justify his sweat and tears and bloody fingers. It will affirm his potential as the Ultimate Weapon.
Analysis
Lee Young Ho is as close to perfection as can be. He has no weakness.
Early game, he is the best bunker-rusher of all time along with (T)BoxeR. Bunker rushes require intense micro and the largest balls of all. Sure, 4 pool is riskier, but its purpose is two-fold: (1) to end the game early/get an advantage and (2) mess with your opponents mind. Losing a 4/5 pool will still accomplish one of the two. It's essentially a sacrifice with a sure reward in series play. Bunker rushes are tests of willpower. Failure will not necessarily defeat you but set you back, so its mostly a question of how committed you are to your strategy and how you will transition given success or failure. Its even a very questionable move because in the face of greedy builds, the Terran still has the option to simply play for a timing attack which is much safer than a bunker rush. (T)Flash has memorized the handbook of bunker rushing and has even amended its provisions. His other cheeses are artistic masterpieces of micro and innovation, be they BBS or proxies.
Mid game, he is the best timing-pusher of all time. He reads his opponent very well with prescient scans and in-game analysis (worker counting, anyone?). He also has a very solid defensive style that negates all forms of midgame cheese. He gets early turrets to counteract Mutalisk aggression or Reaver harass. He positions his Tanks in graduated clumps so that they protect several areas and at the same time overlap to provide killing power. His Vultures are such a pain to deal with because hes so good at timing a surround + mine to ensure that not all mines are shot down.
Late game, he is the most durable player. I think the most exemplary games of Flash have involved comebacks from the most massive deficits ((T)Flash v (T)Fantasy MSL game 1, (T)Flash v (T)firebathero Neo Medusa, (T)Flash v (T)Leta OSL, (T)Flash v (T)Mind Proleague 10-11, I could go on and on). He simply does not give up. In late-game battles, he manages to be incredibly cost efficient. At a time when most players are so drained physically and mentally, (T)Flash is so laser-focused he can still target-fire tank clumps and navigate his Dropships to destroy the most important tech buildings.
Overall, (T)Flash has unequalled game sense. He detects things from the smallest details. He understands when to play aggressively and when to play passively. I cannot stress this enough. This is why his anti-fans hate him for either turtling (because it looks like his opponent just keeps sending waves of units to crash against an immovable tank and turret line) or cheesing (because it looks like (T)Flash just walks in his opponents nat/expos and simply obliterates him in one fell swoop). This is a result of constant, instinctive thinking. Its an oxymoron, to be sure, but (T)Flashs genius is not rational. His mechanical talent can be learned, but his mental talent is the only one of its kind. Is his opponent gunning for an economic lead? Is he going for an all in? One by one, (T)Flash analyzes his opponents options and eliminates them one by one, forcing the other player to ride his cadence.
(T)Flash is favored in every single matchup in this group. It may be called the Group of Death, but realistically, (T)Flash can simply look at it as the Group of Just another day in the Office.
Yes this is mainly an excuse to post my love for Flash, but I will be watching tonight. So hyped it is ridiculous.
