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[Mastperf]

The sea combat looks SOOOO GOOOD in this game. I'll probably end up buying it for that alone.

Makes me want a new Pirates game with that kind of detail and ship-to-ship battles.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

If they deliver on this and the product isn't buggy as hell, I'll buy it on the PS4. If not, I'm ignoring this game completely. It's just hard to trust that Ubisoft will deliver a product that is worth the frustrations.

 

[LiK]

Just don't freeze on me

 

[Marty Chinn]

Single player was definitely not 60 fps on the PS4. So this must be multiplayer only.

 

[JustAnotherOtaku]

Buying it on PS4 then. As if there was any doubt. Here's hoping more of the multiplatform, multi-generation stuff is the same this Q4 and beyond.

 

[Stallion Free]

I won't be surprised if we still see a lot of games running at resolutions like 1280*1080 or 1440*1080 with horizontal upscaling to 1920*1080.

I'd certainly rather games dropped a few horizontal lines to maintain a stronger Performance and IQ.

Dropping "a few horizontal lines" would weaken the IQ.

 

[gdt]

Well I would hope so. Its a cross gen game. They aren't gonna create entirely new assets to take advantage of the stronger hardware. So the same (essentially) assets of PS3/360 are running on a PS4/XB1 so they can push the framerate. I wouldn't take this as any sort of indication that exclusively next gen games will be 60fps.

 

[Smokey]

Good to see 60fps finally being adopted. Last gen tech was holding back gaming so much ugh

 

[BGBW]

60 bugs per second.

 

[Zekra Dezivad]

I saw 0 frames per second.

ding ding ding!

 

[anexanhume]

My hope is that this being a standard at the start of the gen where they are up-porting last gen games with a ton more resources will set a precedent and devs will be hesitant to back down if people pay attention to these metrics.

 

[burgerdog]

It's just target numbers really. COD which is touted as 60fps generally runs lowers than 60fps. Same with lot of 30fps titles, will on average be running in the 20's

You must be playing some shitty games if they're averaging in the 20s. Dat hyperbole.

 

[The Nature Roy]

It had better be, because it looks no better than the typical lazy console ports PC gamers have been playing 1080p+/60fps for years.

 

[Wishmaster92]

boom

 

[HagiG7]

If I had a dollar for every frame in the conference demo I would have one dollar.

 

[nhlducks35]

60FPS isn't being widely adopted, it's just that these games were made on the X360/PS3 and the developers had a ton of extra power to deal with. When the games are made on the PS4 and XOne the framerate will probably be 30FPS (possibly 60FPS on PS4 due to extra power).

 

[dan2026]

60fps

1080p

No screen tearing

Is this real life?

 

[Wonko_C]

At Sony's conference, when the game crashed, does anyone know if it was the game's fault or the console was crapping out? I don't want a repeat of the 360's RROD.

 

[Demon Ice]

I bet the dude playing it at Sony's conference wish it ran at 60fps.

I felt so bad for them.

 

[Puppet Shadow]

It's not multiples of 15, it's factors of 60. The reason for that is simple, 60Hz is the standard refresh rate for most modern displays.

I thought that was just for CRTs? Do modern TV's still have refresh rates?

 

[Stallion Free]

I thought that was just for CRTs? Do modern TV's still have refresh rates?

Yes.

 

[Snuggles]

Cool. Lots of good news coming out of the PS4. I do wonder about AA, though. 1080p is great, but jaggies can still do a lot of damage to IQ. I'm sure it'll all be that blurry post-processing junk.

 

[mullet2000]

Man, I'm really surprised that a lot of games like this and Battlefield are shooting for 60 FPS. This is seriously awesome.

 

[nextgeneration]

What about single player, though? Or is it just multiplayer only?

 

[sleepykyo]

If they say so. The single player demo stuttered, puttered and then crashed.

 

[omonimo]

Oh multiplayer, good times when I can play to a multiplayer in a console.

 

[PSYGN]

I was embarrassed for the demoers when it froze up. But at least it looked great when it wasn't frozen.

 

[SapientWolf]

60FPS isn't being widely adopted, it's just that these games were made on the X360/PS3 and the developers had a ton of extra power to deal with. When the games are made on the PS4 and XOne the framerate will probably be 30FPS (possibly 60FPS on PS4 due to extra power).

I hope they find a way to do framerates between 30 and 60 without tearing next gen because even 40fps looks far smoother than 30fps.

It's hard to tell what's running on a high end PC and what's running on next gen consoles. That's a good thing.

 

[Toa TAK]

Very happy to hear that more AAA games are achieving 60 FPS, now Call of Duty has no excuse. NONE.

As for ACIV that's great for the multiplayer, but I don't care at all for it, how about that single-player?

 

[StevePharma]

Do you guys thing devs and publishers will adopt "60 fps" as the new buzzword since a lot of them can now more easily achieve it on the powerful systems? I certainly heard it a lot more during pitches at press conferences and on show floor interviews.

Feel sorry for the UBI team that AC4 stuttered during the conference. That has to hurt your feelings somewhat when you've worked so hard to prepare something for E3.

 

[Mitchings]

Dropping "a few horizontal lines" would weaken the IQ.

Sorry, I meant other aspects of IQ which might be more beneficial and a more worthy priority than just resolution.

 

[shinobi602]

60fps

1080p

No screen tearing

Is this real life?

No, this is next gen.

 

[Akainu]

You know I really like AC multiplayer. I'd rather be able to buy that and then maybe play the single campaign at some other time.

 

[GrayFoxPL]

Wrong thread, lol.

 

[NIGHT-]

Single player was definitely not 60 fps on the PS4. So this must be multiplayer only.

Looked really choppy during the stage demo

 

[Bad_Boy]

for a game developed for last gen hardware as well, i'd hope it would be. because it won't compete graphically with next gen games with no last gen sku.

 

[Card Boy]

Does it really? Because it was running at 0FPS at the Sony conference.

 

[Spongebob]

Glorious.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

So glad all these big next-gen games are easily achieving 60 fps.

I hope this is a trend that continues far into next gen.

 

[Leucrota]

Why do i see no complaints about the demo failure at sony's conf?

It makes little sense to complain about pre-alpha software.

 

[CREMSteve]

I thought it looked great for pre-alpha code running on a debug devkit.

 

[terrdactycalsrock]

Im going to choose not the believe this until I get a conformation from Ubisoft. Simply because the FPS can be locked before it ships

 

[dino1980]

Sorry to bump this thread.

I am wondering if there has been said anything about 60fps in single player?

 

[Madness]

Damn, open world games will benefit the most from next gen. It'll be jarring though seeing the great Infamous, Assassins Creed 4, and Watch Dogs gameplay and playing GTA V and picking out things like pop in or choppy framerate etc.

Looks like PC'ers will be happy too since they will also get to benefit from the console bump.

 

[Thrakier]

Damn, open world games will benefit the most from next gen. It'll be jarring though seeing the great Infamous, Assassins Creed 4, and Watch Dogs gameplay and playing GTA V and picking out things like pop in or choppy framerate etc.

Looks like PC'ers will be happy too since they will also get to benefit from the console bump.

No worries, you will see plenty of choppy framerate and pop in (if you are not playing on PC).

 

[Gemüsepizza]

It seems there was a title edit but no link added, so I found this:

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

there's no frame-rate dips at all during its 10 minute stretch - while reports came from the showfloor of a 60fps multiplayer experience, this was clearly a silky-smooth 30fps presentation. [singleplayer presentation]

...which means the (new) title isn't entirely exact.

No worries, you will see plenty of choppy framerate and pop in (if you are not playing on PC).

Elitist statement with smug smiley - Check.

According to the DF report from above, AC runs "silky-smooth" with "no frame-rate dips at all". I guess that the game probably runs at something between 30fps and 60fps in SP mode, but is locked to 30fps here (for now). Watch_Dogs is also from Ubisoft, and while it doesn't seem to use the same engine as AC, I am pretty sure that they will get the performance right. In Infamous 2, devs used a dynamic resolution technique in scenes when there is much happening on the screen to prevent frame rate drops, so I don't think we will see anything "choppy" in it's successor. There was some pop-in in the demo, but I am confident that they will be able to eliminate this, after all the PS4 has 8GB of high-speed GDDR5 RAM. And I really wonder how you are going to play a PS4-exclusive game on your PC...

 

[NotUS]

At Sony's conference, when the game crashed, does anyone know if it was the game's fault or the console was crapping out? I don't want a repeat of the 360's RROD.

At E3 it was an unfinished, unoptimized game running on not final hardware. It will look great and run butter smooth on release, they have plenty of time to optimize and polish.

I think peoples expectations for most games for next gen are unrealistically high at the moment. Everything at the moment is in its alpha or beta state, developers are working on new platforms which have had moving spec targets over the last year. This is why the 2nd and 3rd year of games always see huge advances on launch titles, as specs are locked in and developers know the system.

 

[dino1980]

So if they cant target 60fps on the ps4 version, is it then a port of the PC-version? And is the PC version bottlenecked yet again of a bad port from the current-gen consoles.

 

[Gemüsepizza]

So if they cant target 60fps on the ps4 version,

But they can. Nobody is preventing them from doing it, this entirely depends on their vision for the game. And in fact, the multiplayer mode seems to run at 60fps. I guess the singleplayer mode runs above 30fps as well, because it seems very stable, but is probably locked at 30fps. Maybe they are able to get this to 60fps in the final product. But we should not forget that the PS4 version isn't the only version they are working on, so it remains to be seen.

is it then a port of the PC-version? And is the PC version bottlenecked yet again of a bad port from the current-gen consoles.

I don't see any signs of "a bad port" yet. And the PC version is always bottlenecked in some way. Devs can't make games with assets and effects that scale indefinitely, because, contrary to popular belief, most PCs aren't monster machines with the latest Intel CPUs and quad SLI, and their dev budget definitely doesn't scale indefinitely.

 

[dino1980]

But they can. Nobody is preventing them from doing it, this entirely depends on their vision for the game. And in fact, the multiplayer mode seems to run at 60fps. I guess the singleplayer mode runs above 30fps as well, because it seems very stable, but is probably locked at 30fps. Maybe they are able to get this to 60fps in the final product. But we should not forget that the PS4 version isn't the only version they are working on, so it remains to be seen.

I hope the ps4 version will be in 60fps with ambient occlusion and good AA when it is released. AC3 looks so great in some instances where you get the above.

I don't see any signs of "a bad port" yet. And the PC version is always bottlenecked in some way. Devs can't make games with assets and effects that scale indefinitely, because, contrary to popular belief, most PCs aren't monster machines with the latest Intel CPUs and quad SLI, so it would not make much sense.

With the other im just gonna mention AC3 and not be able to run it in 60fps because its cpu bottlenecked from a really bad port. This is why im a little bit worried. Just want the next chapter in this series to work in 60fps, either on ps4 or PC.